GSFL Movements

[neverwas neverwillbe]

Difference is VH bought $uce$$ and Willunga has bred it. Look how long VH have taken to get back on their feet since those days and please no one argue with that concept beacuse I am spot on.

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[jackpot jim]

Apologies Jackpot Jim for debating an interesting topic on this forum. We should've known better.
Good idea LF and by the looks of things the PA committee is set in concrete. A PA MVP would certaintly be held in high regard.

As for the dominance of the Willunga football club. Well these things happen in country footy. Success breeds success. Victor Harbor clearly had it going in the 90's.

Apology accepted Turfie.

Its just that Individual Awards in TEAM sports dont really interest me. Over the years I have seen Player of the year and Match day Best player awards create a Lot of Negativity and heated debate at times amongst members and supporters of Footy clubs which isn't What footy clubs should be about.
I do agree tho that Coaches and players would have a much better idea about who were the most influential and therefore most Valuable players in a game than the Umpires.

[Grape Ape]

Apologies Jackpot Jim for debating an interesting topic on this forum. We should've known better.
Good idea LF and by the looks of things the PA committee is set in concrete. A PA MVP would certaintly be held in high regard.

As for the dominance of the Willunga football club. Well these things happen in country footy. Success breeds success. Victor Harbor clearly had it going in the 90's.

Apology accepted Turfie.

Its just that Individual Awards in TEAM sports dont really interest me. Over the years I have seen Player of the year and Match day Best player awards create a Lot of Negativity and heated debate at times amongst members and supporters of Footy clubs which isn't What footy clubs should be about.
I do agree tho that Coaches and players would have a much better idea about who were the most influential and therefore most Valuable players in a game than the Umpires.

So who are the most influential players in the GSFL? Is Randall Follet more important to LC than Tim Follet or a fit Matt James? Eagleton more influential than Duffield? While Willunga has a number of 'vote getters' I don't think there is much debate that the most influential player in the side is David Hams (?). There has been comment on this forum that he should have got more than 4 mail medal votes in a 115 goal season but to be honest I don't expect him to go any where near winning Willunga's B&F either. How often do players who start outside the centre square win best and fairests or other individual awards? I'd be interested to hear of some examples.

Maybe the GSFLPA could award different types of players for their 'value' to the team. Best backman. Best tagger etc...

[BJ Ernest]

Apologies Jackpot Jim for debating an interesting topic on this forum. We should've known better.
Good idea LF and by the looks of things the PA committee is set in concrete. A PA MVP would certaintly be held in high regard.

As for the dominance of the Willunga football club. Well these things happen in country footy. Success breeds success. Victor Harbor clearly had it going in the 90's.

Apology accepted Turfie.

Its just that Individual Awards in TEAM sports dont really interest me. Over the years I have seen Player of the year and Match day Best player awards create a Lot of Negativity and heated debate at times amongst members and supporters of Footy clubs which isn't What footy clubs should be about.
I do agree tho that Coaches and players would have a much better idea about who were the most influential and therefore most Valuable players in a game than the Umpires.

So who are the most influential players in the GSFL? Is Randall Follet more important to LC than Tim Follet or a fit Matt James? Eagleton more influential than Duffield? While Willunga has a number of 'vote getters' I don't think there is much debate that the most influential player in the side is David Hams (?). There has been comment on this forum that he should have got more than 4 mail medal votes in a 115 goal season but to be honest I don't expect him to go any where near winning Willunga's B&F either. How often do players who start outside the centre square win best and fairests or other individual awards? I'd be interested to hear of some examples.

Maybe the GSFLPA could award different types of players for their 'value' to the team. Best backman. Best tagger etc...

Theres no doubt in footy that big guys are the difference. As much as a top line midfielder helps without having a target to kick to the work done up the field is wasted without a target like David. As you say GA Hams would be the most influential player at Willunga.

At this point in time that ive seen Duffield is the most influential player in the GSFL. Strath go through him and he provides such a big target there at CHF and being the most important spot on the ground Duffield is the one. Finals are where ppl get judged and the heat is on the next 4 weeks!!!

[Toughcall]

Difference is VH bought $uce$$ and Willunga has bred it. Look how long VH have taken to get back on their feet since those days and please no one argue with that concept beacuse I am spot on.

What you have to realise LF is that Victor may have paid for success in the 90s, but no different to many clubs in the GSFL especially the saints who spent a pultice to go nowhere (Mansell era) and to think Willunga isn't spending money goes to show how gullible you are. Many players at Willunga originated at Aldinga.
Bays are the same with the big names they have had over the past few years - Ottens, Rolfe, McLean, Jagodnik, West, Gigney, Dennis (all big money players and the club fininshed third). Saints poached 2 of them.
The Bays have done better in 2008 with the locals and there is a greater feel in the club, but with the right recrtuiting it pushes a side into premiership calcualtions. Imagine if the Bays had Rolfe tomorrow they would be certs.

[Micky Conlan]

Srath coach reported? surely a A grade coach should'nt get himself in that position where he get's reported for verbal abuse towards umpires.Has the Rooster cocked it's last crow?

[LuvsFooty]

Difference is VH bought $uce$$ and Willunga has bred it. Look how long VH have taken to get back on their feet since those days and please no one argue with that concept beacuse I am spot on.

What you have to realise LF is that Victor may have paid for success in the 90s, but no different to many clubs in the GSFL especially the saints who spent a pultice to go nowhere (Mansell era) and to think Willunga isn't spending money goes to show how gullible you are. Many players at Willunga originated at Aldinga.
Bays are the same with the big names they have had over the past few years - Ottens, Rolfe, McLean, Jagodnik, West, Gigney, Dennis (all big money players and the club fininshed third). Saints poached 2 of them.
The Bays have done better in 2008 with the locals and there is a greater feel in the club, but with the right recrtuiting it pushes a side into premiership calcualtions. Imagine if the Bays had Rolfe tomorrow they would be certs.

I agree with the theory on the Mansell Era TC, with the side we had we should have achieved more. I never suggested that Willunga dont pay money but they will always be a stronger club for playing a majority of locals and having a good junior program. In that Victor era, juniors at the club had very little chance of playing A grade football and its the reason why they have struggled since 99. By doing what they did you almost lose a whole generation. I think Bays have got a great model. A real good bunch of 'local' players with a sprinkling of outsiders (which all clubs need).

[LuvsFooty]

On a positive note Saints juniors got over the line today by 1 point against Mt Compass. Always got to watch the under dogs when it comes to finals. Would have stayed for the A's but couldn't see myself staying at Willunga in shit weather and watching a whole game of B Grade footy between Compass and McLarens.

[A Mum]

On a positive note Saints juniors got over the line today by 1 point against Mt Compass. Always got to watch the under dogs when it comes to finals. Would have stayed for the A's but couldn't see myself staying at Willunga in s***t weather and watching a whole game of B Grade footy between Compass and McLarens.

Congratulations LF for your boys winning. I only saw the last quarter but they did look pretty determined.

Nothing wrong with the B grade game between Compass and McLarens !! ... You should have stayed it was a ripper !! ... I'd say it will go down as the closest game of the round with scores all level at full time... meaning an extra 5 minutes to be played each end.

Also like to congratulate our 17's and B's coaches and players still alive in the finals (and the 14's there too of course)

[LuvsFooty]

Thanks A Mum. I cant believe the boys (and 1 girl) keep getting up, we must be the smallest junior colts team in history! This week will be very tough. I must say the Willunga Oval (although it has a 45 degree slope) was in great nick and the umpiring was great. The 2 umpires, Cratey was one, really communicate with the kids which makes it a hell of a lot easier.

Speaking of ovals, I hear a whisper that some league officials were asking about the Goolwa Oval's availabilty on Saturday the 22nd of September. Interesting....... I know all the farmers at Compass love the rain, but they need it to stop for their ovals sake!

[A Mum]

Mmm... very interesting re the oval

Cratey is a very good umpire with those Junior Colts because he explains to them what they've done wrong if they get a free kick against them..... gives them encouragement when they do something good.....etc, etc, etc... from what I can tell players and supporters have great respect for him.

[Bruce Almighty]

Anyone got an A grade score from today?

[A Mum]

Anyone got an A grade score from today?

Hi Bruce Almighty,

Don't know the score... only know that Compass won.... and by something like 7 goals

[limb]

Srath coach reported? surely a A grade coach should'nt get himself in that position where he get's reported for verbal abuse towards umpires.Has the Rooster cocked it's last crow?

He did get reported did he?? That doesn't surprise me. The way the Strath coaches box and supporters behaved when the umpires came off the ground was disgraceful. Very poor sportsmanship.

Apart from the scenes that followed the match it was a great spectacle on Saturday with the Hawks coming from 2 or 3 goals down at the last change to come away with a gutsy 5 point win.

The highlight of the day for me was in the 3rd quarter when there was a scrimmage about 10m from the Strath goals and one of the Strath players dished out a handball to Duffield who was standing unmarked on the goal line and he shepherded it through thinking it was kicked to him. Just as it crossed the line he realised what he'd done and threw his hands over his face. Priceless.

[MrTeach]

Thanks A Mum. I cant believe the boys (and 1 girl) keep getting up, we must be the smallest junior colts team in history! This week will be very tough. I must say the Willunga Oval (although it has a 45 degree slope) was in great nick and the umpiring was great. The 2 umpires, Cratey was one, really communicate with the kids which makes it a hell of a lot easier.

Speaking of ovals, I hear a whisper that some league officials were asking about the Goolwa Oval's availabilty on Saturday the 22nd of September. Interesting....... I know all the farmers at Compass love the rain, but they need it to stop for their ovals sake!

LF, your boys were very good on the weekend and your right they are a very little side. What they do have in their favour is a very good coach. Bridges, although not an awesome player himself he knows how to communicate with his lads and i really commend him for the job he is doing. What i also like about him is, that he is not like most of the other Saints coaches who rant and rave and swear and curse and tell their players to go out and fight the opposition. Bridges keeps his cool and gets his boys playing good football.

I went to the games on Sunday and there were some fine coaches on display and also some very average coaches. I went and listened to Bassani's 1/4 time address and i was very un-impressed, a lot of people on this site rate him as a coach and his results look quite good but listening to him talk did not impress me one bit.

[MrTeach]

On another note the colts medal count is on tonight, who do you guys think are a fair chance from the clubs.

[A Mum]

On another note the colts medal count is on tonight, who do you guys think are a fair chance from the clubs.

Speaking for my club...

Invited from our club in Senior Colts was Evan Williams (Who won our best and fairest) and Simon Pistilli.

I think both boys have a good chance, Evan has had a fantastic year and Simon always does get noticed by the umpires.... in saying that though... with the competition that's been as tight as it has in this grade all year, you'd have to expect that the count will be just as tight... is it possible to have a tie ?? I think so. Will be very exciting and nerve racking for those up there in the mix from all clubs I'm sure !!

With our Junior Colts we have had invited Michael Balas and Zach Cameron... and with us winning so many games this year I think they're both in with a good chance as well.

Goodluck to all who have been invited.

[neverwas neverwillbe]

Srath coach reported? surely a A grade coach should'nt get himself in that position where he get's reported for verbal abuse towards umpires.Has the Rooster cocked it's last crow?

He did get reported did he?? That doesn't surprise me. The way the Strath coaches box and supporters behaved when the umpires came off the ground was disgraceful. Very poor sportsmanship.

Apart from the scenes that followed the match it was a great spectacle on Saturday with the Hawks coming from 2 or 3 goals down at the last change to come away with a gutsy 5 point win.

The highlight of the day for me was in the 3rd quarter when there was a scrimmage about 10m from the Strath goals and one of the Strath players dished out a handball to Duffield who was standing unmarked on the goal line and he shepherded it through thinking it was kicked to him. Just as it crossed the line he realised what he'd done and threw his hands over his face. Priceless.

I heard he was reported for 'man handling' the umipre.

[limb]

If that's the case I think he'll have a fair case to answer. Has there ever been a incident like this happen before??

[Toughcall]

Junior Colts - Balas (McLaren). Senior Colts from Cooney (Strath), Vitikunas (Compass), Johnson (Creek), Lindsay (Bays), Fry (Saints). Great talent in that competition.

Very disappointed with the Bays yesterday and Bassani has done a great job to get the team in the finals, but we all expected more once it all started. Overall 2008 would be rated as a tick for the A grade. Dane Rolfe was at the game and was in heavy talks with the club's heavyweights after the match. Will be a big coup to get him back and he would be zero points.
Is division 3 amateurs only 2 points? Rolfe is good mates with Ryan Smart who has already declared he is coming back to the Bay in 2009 after he wins his 2nd flag at Keith. Not all doom and gloom at the Bay, great juniors blooded this year and already working on 2009. Alas, it will be life without Bass! He will be remembered for giving some kids an opportunity and getting the team into the finals when all was lost.