The South Australian Political Landscape

[Booney]

Significantly more engineering in the health space than there is in every other build.

Every other build? Are you just talking buildings?

Not the structure but the workings of health, particularly :

- Isolation / pandemic rooms
- Operating theatres
- Clinical spaces
etc etc

No other "building" has clinical areas and the complexities that come with that.

[Jimmy_041]

It goes to show what an absolute clusterf*** the Libs are in SA at the moment.

These two project blunders should be enough to sink any political party, but Labor will more than likely gain even more seats at the next election.

It's only debt.
No-one gives a toss. You never have to pay debt back

[dedja]

It goes to show what an absolute clusterf*** the Libs are in SA at the moment.

These two project blunders should be enough to sink any political party, but Labor will more than likely gain even more seats at the next election.

It's only debt.
No-one gives a toss. You never have to pay debt back

We’re not in the Vic’s league though … not yet anyway

[Jimmy_041]

It goes to show what an absolute clusterf*** the Libs are in SA at the moment.

These two project blunders should be enough to sink any political party, but Labor will more than likely gain even more seats at the next election.

It's only debt.
No-one gives a toss. You never have to pay debt back

We’re not in the Vic’s league though … not yet anyway

By 2027-28, gross state debt per capita will be $35k in Victoria, followed by $30k in SA, $29k in Queensland, and $28k in NSW.

https://adepteconomics.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Interstate-Debt-Comparisons-FY25.pdf

[dedja]

That’s before the Olympics spike to QLD debt.

[heater31]

Significantly more engineering in the health space than there is in every other build.

Every other build? Are you just talking buildings?

Not the structure but the workings of health, particularly :

- Isolation / pandemic rooms
- Operating theatres
- Clinical spaces
etc etc

No other "building" has clinical areas and the complexities that come with that.

Structurally it would have an earthquake rating too

[am Bays]

Significantly more engineering in the health space than there is in every other build.

Every other build? Are you just talking buildings?

Not the structure but the workings of health, particularly :

- Isolation / pandemic rooms
- Operating theatres
- Clinical spaces
etc etc

No other "building" has clinical areas and the complexities that come with that.

Yeah but with in the last 15 years there’s been a new Glenside health facility and RAH built, significant redevelopments at FMC, NH, and LMH and current redevelopment occurring at FMC there’s are plenty of recent case studies on how to plan and budget for a new health facility build inclusive of treatment rooms , theatres and fire protection systems to meet IS0 4085 (I think is the health facilities emergency standard)

When you consider the current CEO for W&C health network was the executive lead for the Glenside redevelopment. They are well aware of the budgetary and infrastructure challenges when it comes to Billion dollar builds

[Booney]

Significantly more engineering in the health space than there is in every other build.

Every other build? Are you just talking buildings?

Not the structure but the workings of health, particularly :

- Isolation / pandemic rooms
- Operating theatres
- Clinical spaces
etc etc

No other "building" has clinical areas and the complexities that come with that.

Structurally it would have an earthquake rating too

DIT love their seismic ratings.

[wenchbarwer]

Significantly more engineering in the health space than there is in every other build.

Every other build? Are you just talking buildings?

Not the structure but the workings of health, particularly :

- Isolation / pandemic rooms
- Operating theatres
- Clinical spaces
etc etc

No other "building" has clinical areas and the complexities that come with that.

Yeah but with in the last 15 years there’s been a new Glenside health facility and RAH built, significant redevelopments at FMC, NH, and LMH and current redevelopment occurring at FMC there’s are plenty of recent case studies on how to plan and budget for a new health facility build inclusive of treatment rooms , theatres and fire protection systems to meet IS0 4085 (I think is the health facilities emergency standard)

When you consider the current CEO for W&C health network was the executive lead for the Glenside redevelopment. They are well aware of the budgetary and infrastructure challenges when it comes to Billion dollar builds

Thank you, this is the point I was trying and failing to make

[Brodlach]

Yesterdays poll

Two party preferred

ALP 67%
LIBS 33%

Leader preferred

Mali 58%
Tarzia 19%

Undecided in front of Tarzia

[wenchbarwer]

Yesterdays poll

Two party preferred

ALP 67%
LIBS 33%

Leader preferred

Mali 58%
Tarzia 19%

Undecided in front of Tarzia

[Booney]

Yeah but with in the last 15 years there’s been a new Glenside health facility and RAH built, significant redevelopments at FMC, NH, and LMH and current redevelopment occurring at FMC there’s are plenty of recent case studies on how to plan and budget for a new health facility build inclusive of treatment rooms , theatres and fire protection systems to meet IS0 4085 (I think is the health facilities emergency standard)

When you consider the current CEO for W&C health network was the executive lead for the Glenside redevelopment. They are well aware of the budgetary and infrastructure challenges when it comes to Billion dollar builds

Thank you, this is the point I was trying and failing to make

All fair and reasonable but none of the QEH, FMC or LMH are on the scale of the NW&C, all are redevelopments or extensions ( been involved in all of them ) and many of them were budgeted and priced pre-COVID. The impact of COVID and the timing of the T2D connector has impacted on this ( as well as on going EBA's with the Unions ). Changing the design team well into the planning wasn't ideal, either. Not sure why they did that.

PS - the nRAH was announced in 2007, started in 2011 and opened in 2017 so it's only just inside your 15 year time line.

Welcome to old.

[Booney]

[shoe boy]

No surprise both state and federal have zero credibility, zero leadership, aligning with Trump American style politics.

[Jim05]

No surprise both state and federal have zero credibility, zero leadership, aligning with Trump American style politics.

The weird thing is when I speak to some real lifetime hardcore Labor folk they are actually disgusted in the current Fed Labor especially and all brand Albo as a weak and spineless fool. Their belief is that with the Libs being out of the picture Labor should be returning their roots but instead have pretty much just become Liberal Lite now and as the Libs go further right so do Labor. One of them actually calls Mali the best Liberal leader this state has had

[Jimmy_041]

Hey look, they're unTransforming Health

https://thepostsa.au/health/2025/10/22/ ... -overhaul/

[locky801]

Tarzia announcing if they win the election if you breach your bail you are going to jail. Strike 1 and your inside.

Whereas i agree that should be the case in serious offences it is totally impossible for that to happen over the majority of offences people are charged with.

You would need to build 3 remand centres, mens, womens and young offenders, the cost would be enormous, remand centres and jails are already close to capacity

The Court system would get more clogged than it already is

Obviously vote chasing but the reality is that you would also have to change the law stipulating the fact that you must be imprisoned for a breach of bail.

Would surely have to stipulate the type of offences, imagine having been arrested for driving unlicensed or similar, bailed and caught again, you get arrested for breach of bail, due to the clogged court system you could be imprisoned for 6 to 12 months whilst waiting for your matter to hit the courts

No issues with Major Indictables (who probably shouldnt be bailed anyway) one strike and in you go but has to be alot of leeway with the rest

[dedja]

Not sure how he’s going to get that legislation through from outside parliament.

[Jimmy_041]

Tarzia announcing if they win the election if you breach your bail you are going to jail. Strike 1 and your inside.

Whereas i agree that should be the case in serious offences it is totally impossible for that to happen over the majority of offences people are charged with.

You would need to build 3 remand centres, mens, womens and young offenders, the cost would be enormous, remand centres and jails are already close to capacity

The Court system would get more clogged than it already is

Obviously vote chasing but the reality is that you would also have to change the law stipulating the fact that you must be imprisoned for a breach of bail.

Would surely have to stipulate the type of offences, imagine having been arrested for driving unlicensed or similar, bailed and caught again, you get arrested for breach of bail, due to the clogged court system you could be imprisoned for 6 to 12 months whilst waiting for your matter to hit the courts

No issues with Major Indictables (who probably shouldnt be bailed anyway) one strike and in you go but has to be alot of leeway with the rest

I must say that's of serious concern (or am I misreading this?)
Not so much those who have not been convicted and are out on bail pending their time in Court.
But, surely, if you've been tried, convicted, spent time inside and now bailed; conditional on being of good behaviour, any breach should put you back inside until it's heard?

[DOC]

That’s parole and you get locked up (in general) until brought before the court.

Bail is different as their is a presumption of innocence.It has to be opposed in a court.