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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:26 pm

Only learnt recently that Root played at Prospect CC for a year,

However Ponting is a Roos man so that gets him over the line :)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:31 pm

Dutchy wrote:Only learnt recently that Root played at Prospect CC for a year,

However Ponting is a Roos man so that gets him over the line :)


I guess that's where the resilience comes from ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Corona Man » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:34 pm

Dutchy wrote:Only learnt recently that Root played at Prospect CC for a year,

However Ponting is a Roos man so that gets him over the line :)

He batted at 3, and Nathan Lyon batted at 4!

Both lost their wickets to the Kensi great…. J. Pannelli!
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Aerie » Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:02 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Aerie wrote:They can afford to experiment a little in Sri Lanka having wrapped up a spot in the WTC Final.

Khawaja
Head
Labuschagne
Smith
Marsh
Webster
Carey
Starc
Lyon
Boland
Kuhnemann

Konstas
Murphy
Abbott
Richardson


Why on earth would you want to move our most prolific run scorer away from his #5 spot?

Why would you put Marsh back in there?

I can understand the love for Boland but we won't go in with 2 quicks, last time we went there, over the two tests we bowled 82 overs of pace vs 183 overs of spin, the last time we played on the sub-continent we only played one recognized quick.

Boland is redundant over there, the nagging length that he bowls here won't have the same affect in their conditions, just won't get the carry.


Head I think is better suited to pace early and will be most effective as opener in sub-continent conditions.

Marsh I tossed up with - was thinking maybe McSweeney back in at 5, but Marsh is proven, can get quick runs against spin, can bowl some overs of medium pace and having just been dropped, might play with a freedom that sees him back in to his AB Medal form.

Boland I’ve gone with because he’s just taken 21 Test wickets at 13 over the last few weeks. He’s in hot form and Cummins is most likely unavailable and Hazlewood questionable re injury.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:35 pm

Dutchy wrote:Only learnt recently that Root played at Prospect CC for a year,

However Ponting is a Roos man so that gets him over the line :)

And a greyhound owner/breeder :lol:
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:19 pm

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:30 pm

Aerie wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Aerie wrote:They can afford to experiment a little in Sri Lanka having wrapped up a spot in the WTC Final.

Khawaja
Head
Labuschagne
Smith
Marsh
Webster
Carey
Starc
Lyon
Boland
Kuhnemann

Konstas
Murphy
Abbott
Richardson


Why on earth would you want to move our most prolific run scorer away from his #5 spot?

Why would you put Marsh back in there?

I can understand the love for Boland but we won't go in with 2 quicks, last time we went there, over the two tests we bowled 82 overs of pace vs 183 overs of spin, the last time we played on the sub-continent we only played one recognized quick.

Boland is redundant over there, the nagging length that he bowls here won't have the same affect in their conditions, just won't get the carry.


Head I think is better suited to pace early and will be most effective as opener in sub-continent conditions.

Marsh I tossed up with - was thinking maybe McSweeney back in at 5, but Marsh is proven, can get quick runs against spin, can bowl some overs of medium pace and having just been dropped, might play with a freedom that sees him back in to his AB Medal form.

Boland I’ve gone with because he’s just taken 21 Test wickets at 13 over the last few weeks. He’s in hot form and Cummins is most likely unavailable and Hazlewood questionable re injury.


Yeah, it seems like Boland will go over as our 2nd quick but I'm not sold that he'll play, I'm thinking they'll use Webster as the alternative quick for the little amount of overs that pace will be used. Boland might be selected for the Galle test I think.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:55 pm

Both tests are at Galle :D
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:02 pm

dedja wrote:Both tests are at Galle :D


:lol: :lol:

Well I guess Boland is playing then. :lol:
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby stan » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:15 pm

Hazelwood has been ruled out of the Sri Lankan series. Cummins is already ruled out.

Richardson isn't going to be part of the squad, he'll get injured getting off the plane.

I doubt there will be massive changes to the batting line up. I would expect it to be unchanged. What I'm not sure about is the 2nd Specialist seamer or a 3rd spinner.

Khawaja
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Booney » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:26 am

Konstas insists all he said to Bumrah was that Khawaja was not ready to face up, but admits in hindsight he shouldn’t have got involved from the non-striker’s end.

“I feel like I love being in the contest and trying to put my best foot forward,” Konstas said.

“I feel like it’s probably a good learning for me. I was trying to waste a little bit of time there so they didn’t get another over. But he (Bumrah) had the last laugh.

“Obviously he is world class and he took, what, 32 wickets in the series.

“If that happened again, maybe I wouldn’t have said anything.”


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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby heater31 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:29 am

Corona Man wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Only learnt recently that Root played at Prospect CC for a year,

However Ponting is a Roos man so that gets him over the line :)

He batted at 3, and Nathan Lyon batted at 4!

Both lost their wickets to the Kensi great…. J. Pannelli!
Falling LBW to J.Panelli has even happened to me! Took consolation walking off that far better batters than me also suffered the same fate.

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Bedge » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:08 am

stan wrote:I doubt there will be massive changes to the batting line up. I would expect it to be unchanged. What I'm not sure about is the 2nd Specialist seamer or a 3rd spinner.

Khawaja
Konatas
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Webster
Carey
Starc
Murphy
Lyon
Boland / Kuhnemann

I feel like they'll go with a 2nd specialist seamer, use Webster as the 3rd quick and play 2 specialist spinners with Head to roll the arm over if needed for a couple.

That's been the formula the last couple of tours (Cummins, Starc, Lyon, Swepson + T Head) and (Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon, Holland + M Marsh).

Not convinced they'll go Boland though - he seems suited to the Aussie pitches.. and I wonder if maybe a Sean Abbott might get a run, or someone left field like Fergus O'Neill
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:30 am

The Bedge wrote:
stan wrote:I doubt there will be massive changes to the batting line up. I would expect it to be unchanged. What I'm not sure about is the 2nd Specialist seamer or a 3rd spinner.

Khawaja
Konatas
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Webster
Carey
Starc
Murphy
Lyon
Boland / Kuhnemann

I feel like they'll go with a 2nd specialist seamer, use Webster as the 3rd quick and play 2 specialist spinners with Head to roll the arm over if needed for a couple.

That's been the formula the last couple of tours (Cummins, Starc, Lyon, Swepson + T Head) and (Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon, Holland + M Marsh).

Not convinced they'll go Boland though - he seems suited to the Aussie pitches.. and I wonder if maybe a Sean Abbott might get a run, or someone left field like Fergus O'Neill


Maybe the Wild Thing and go with sheer pace, FWIW, I'd go Kuhnemann over Potter.

Abbott or Neser could well be considered as it will be a series where runs will be the key, we'll need to bat as low as possible.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Bedge » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:35 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Maybe the Wild Thing and go with sheer pace, FWIW, I'd go Kuhnemann over Potter.

Abbott or Neser could well be considered as it will be a series where runs will be the key, we'll need to bat as low as possible.

I think Kuhnemann definitely over Murphy - cant have both Lyon and Murphy in the same side, need a point of difference.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby robranisgod » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:08 am

Aerie wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Aerie wrote:They can afford to experiment a little in Sri Lanka having wrapped up a spot in the WTC Final.

Khawaja
Head
Labuschagne
Smith
Marsh
Webster
Carey
Starc
Lyon
Boland
Kuhnemann

Konstas
Murphy
Abbott
Richardson


Why on earth would you want to move our most prolific run scorer away from his #5 spot?

Why would you put Marsh back in there?

I can understand the love for Boland but we won't go in with 2 quicks, last time we went there, over the two tests we bowled 82 overs of pace vs 183 overs of spin, the last time we played on the sub-continent we only played one recognized quick.

Boland is redundant over there, the nagging length that he bowls here won't have the same affect in their conditions, just won't get the carry.


Head I think is better suited to pace early and will be most effective as opener in sub-continent conditions.

Marsh I tossed up with - was thinking maybe McSweeney back in at 5, but Marsh is proven, can get quick runs against spin, can bowl some overs of medium pace and having just been dropped, might play with a freedom that sees him back in to his AB Medal form.

Boland I’ve gone with because he’s just taken 21 Test wickets at 13 over the last few weeks. He’s in hot form and Cummins is most likely unavailable and Hazlewood questionable re injury.

Marsh is a proven failure. I can think of no other Test player who has a Test batting average of 29 and a Test bowling average of 40 after playing 46 tests. He may be a good bloke and team man, but so was Mal and he sure as hell wasn't getting a test game.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:21 am

I don’t understand the love for Kuhnemann
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:31 am

robranisgod wrote:
Aerie wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Aerie wrote:They can afford to experiment a little in Sri Lanka having wrapped up a spot in the WTC Final.

Khawaja
Head
Labuschagne
Smith
Marsh
Webster
Carey
Starc
Lyon
Boland
Kuhnemann

Konstas
Murphy
Abbott
Richardson


Why on earth would you want to move our most prolific run scorer away from his #5 spot?

Why would you put Marsh back in there?

I can understand the love for Boland but we won't go in with 2 quicks, last time we went there, over the two tests we bowled 82 overs of pace vs 183 overs of spin, the last time we played on the sub-continent we only played one recognized quick.

Boland is redundant over there, the nagging length that he bowls here won't have the same affect in their conditions, just won't get the carry.


Head I think is better suited to pace early and will be most effective as opener in sub-continent conditions.

Marsh I tossed up with - was thinking maybe McSweeney back in at 5, but Marsh is proven, can get quick runs against spin, can bowl some overs of medium pace and having just been dropped, might play with a freedom that sees him back in to his AB Medal form.

Boland I’ve gone with because he’s just taken 21 Test wickets at 13 over the last few weeks. He’s in hot form and Cummins is most likely unavailable and Hazlewood questionable re injury.

Marsh is a proven failure. I can think of no other Test player who has a Test batting average of 29 and a Test bowling average of 40 after playing 46 tests. He may be a good bloke and team man, but so was Mal and he sure as hell wasn't getting a test game.

Average of 19.56 (20.08 away from home) against spin too, he's never been successful against spin in test cricket.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Bedge » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:49 am

Brodlach wrote:I don’t understand the love for Kuhnemann

Not that I love him.. but Left arm OS as opposed to Lyon RAOS.

No real decent leg spinners getting around (Swepson maybe?)

Rocchiccioli and Murphy are both RAOS so are outsiders until Lyon steps aside.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Bedge » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:54 am

Can we get some love for Kurtis Patterson though - feel like he's a hard luck story.. 527 @ 105 this year.. 2x innings at Test level for 144 runs - never seen again.

Feel like apart from last year, he's been making consistent runs for a long time.
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