Australian International Summer 2023/24

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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:37 pm

whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:We need to put together an all-rounder XI


Are we considering keepers as all rounders...? Can we only have one of them....if so.

1. Watson
2. Jayasuriya (98 wickets at 34) plus i struggled for another opener.
3. Kallis
4. Sobers
5. Miller
6. Botham
7. Gilchrist
8. Imran Khan
9. Kapil Dev
10. Wasim Akram
11. Hadlee

Yes, I consider a keeper batter as an allrounder
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:39 pm

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amber_fluid wrote:Amber’s all time Xl
Hayden
Greenidge
Lara
Tendulkar
Ponting
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Ambrose
McGrath
Younis

I meant an “all-rounder” XI.

Pretty happy with your list though, I’d probably go Sangakarra and Akram for Gordon & Waqar but there is no wrong or right opinions


Yeah I started that post just before you posted.
I tossed up Waqar, Wasim and Hadlee.
Sangakarra’s stats are as good as any but I didn’t think he was as good as they show though.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby whufc » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:40 pm

Then Sangakarra can play instead of Jayaysuriya.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:45 pm

whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:We need to put together an all-rounder XI


Are we considering keepers as all rounders...? Can we only have one of them....if so.

1. Watson
2. Jayasuriya (98 wickets at 34) plus i struggled for another opener.
3. Kallis
4. Sobers
5. Miller
6. Botham
7. Gilchrist
8. Imran Khan
9. Kapil Dev
10. Wasim Akram
11. Hadlee

As great as your team is I could probably only judge on players that I’ve seen play, if mal selected your list then it’s warranted ;) .

Using my criteria I would change Sobers and Miller for possibly the Waugh twins, one would just about rate Warne as an allrounder, I think he’s a far better bat than his average suggest, he would’ve gone in at 7/400+ many times and just gone the tonk as he batted in junk time
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby whufc » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:49 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:We need to put together an all-rounder XI


Are we considering keepers as all rounders...? Can we only have one of them....if so.

1. Watson
2. Jayasuriya (98 wickets at 34) plus i struggled for another opener.
3. Kallis
4. Sobers
5. Miller
6. Botham
7. Gilchrist
8. Imran Khan
9. Kapil Dev
10. Wasim Akram
11. Hadlee

As great as your team is I could probably only judge on players that I’ve seen play, if mal selected your list then it’s warranted ;) .

Using my criteria I would change Sobers and Miller for possibly the Waugh twins, one would just about rate Warne as an allrounder, I think he’s a far better bat than his average suggest, he would’ve gone in at 7/400+ many times and just gone the tonk as he batted in junk time


Forgot about the Waugh twins being allrounders. :lol:
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:55 pm

What about Flintoff?
I’d have him before Stokes
Shaun Pollock has to be in there
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Jim05 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:55 pm

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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Jim05 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:56 pm

whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:We need to put together an all-rounder XI


Are we considering keepers as all rounders...? Can we only have one of them....if so.

1. Watson
2. Jayasuriya (98 wickets at 34) plus i struggled for another opener.
3. Kallis
4. Sobers
5. Miller
6. Botham
7. Gilchrist
8. Imran Khan
9. Kapil Dev
10. Wasim Akram
11. Hadlee

As great as your team is I could probably only judge on players that I’ve seen play, if mal selected your list then it’s warranted ;) .

Using my criteria I would change Sobers and Miller for possibly the Waugh twins, one would just about rate Warne as an allrounder, I think he’s a far better bat than his average suggest, he would’ve gone in at 7/400+ many times and just gone the tonk as he batted in junk time


Forgot about the Waugh twins being allrounders. :lol:
I do think a lot of people do forget that before his back problems, Steve Waugh was a pretty decent bowler
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby locky801 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:57 pm

Jim05 wrote:Mitch is saving Australia


Smudge playing a fantastic support role as well
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Eagles2014 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:58 pm

Jim05 wrote:Mitch is saving Australia


MCG crowd wont boo him this time then :shock:
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:16 pm

My best 11 i've seen

Hayden
Cook
Ponting
Lara
Tendulkar
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Ambrose
Walsh
McGrath
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby whufc » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:24 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:My best 11 i've seen

Hayden
Cook
Ponting
Lara
Tendulkar
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Ambrose
Walsh
McGrath


Reckon we would be about the same age looking at that list.

For sentimental value can't go past the middle order of Ponting, Lara, Tendulkar............but its hard to ignore what Smith and Kohli have done in recent years.....they have to be seriously considered.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:30 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:My best 11 i've seen

Hayden
Cook
Ponting
Lara
Tendulkar
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Ambrose
Walsh
McGrath


Good team.
Tugga Waugh is an interesting one.
I’d have Border, Viv Richard’s, Smith, Chappell before him
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:33 pm

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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby am Bays » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:41 pm

Mine from 1978-79 onwards:

Gavaskar - played with Australia at Adelaide in 85-86 (1st test I ever watched live) and he opened against those West Indies teams ad nauseum - first to 10 000
Cook- just shades Hayden
Ponting
Lara
Tendulkar
Border - made runs everywhere and against the those West Indies teams 2nd to 10 000 and more often than not came in at 2-3 for F*** All
Gilchrist
Warne
Marshall
Lillee
McGrath

Ambrose 12th
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby whufc » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:45 pm

Great call on Border.

Cant have the discussion of the 4 pace West Indian attack being one of the greatest of all time and then not have Border in amongst your batters.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby valleys07 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:03 pm

Best XI from who I have seen (since about 92-93):

Hayden
Cook
Lara
Tendulkar
Ponting
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Akram
Ambrose
McGrath
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:45 pm

valleys07 wrote:Best XI from who I have seen (since about 92-93):

Hayden
Cook
Lara
Tendulkar
Ponting
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Akram
Ambrose
McGrath

Pretty hard to challenge that line up
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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby locky801 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:55 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Best XI from who I have seen (since about 92-93):

Hayden
Cook
Lara
Tendulkar
Ponting
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Akram
Ambrose
McGrath

Pretty hard to challenge that line up


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Re: Australian International Summer 2023/24

Postby mots02 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:03 pm

Assuming on precedence that ‘Bison-ball’ will be included in the English dictionary soon?
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