Ashes 2023

[tigerpie]

Given the circumstances the day before I can understand why the Aussies didn’t recall him. What we don’t want to see though is keepers having regular pins trying to catch a batsmen a split second out.

As a sh!tty wicket keeper, ah yes we do if a batsman is not staying in his crease until over has been called.

but it's done with risk as a it may lead to a bye if I miss or it deflects aw away from a fielder.

What's the difference between me coming up to the stumps to keep a batsman in his crease and to increase chances of an LB vs throwing a ball at the stumps to try and get rid of a lazy batsman?

The batsman has every right to take liberties but I've got the right to keep them honest.

Exactly!
If Carey was up the stumps would Bairstow wander out of his crease?
No, he'd wait till the ump called over.

[RoosterMan]

https://youtu.be/ygvnaafEGgg

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[stan]

So the incident aside, Australia in my opinion bowled like crap and really haven't played that well, and found themselves 2 nil up in place they normally struggle. Had some players have good efforts here and there but really haven't got it going yet.

I can't believe that isn't being talked about more.

Speaking of talk, was bazzball about aggressive batting and field placings? Or was it more than that and make a **** of yourself?

So far they are 2 nil down, the Rich Lords members have disgraced themselves, you have a batsmen who predicted a 150 run win, a pace bowler telling batters who have hit 140 to **** off and then write a column about how the team that is beating the 2 nil isn't willing to go toe to toe with them.

You would have to argue that Bazzball includes the **** part as well based on that.

Perhaps Symonds was onto something there in calling him a turd.

[The Dark Knight]

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[The Dark Knight]

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Nathan Lyon has been ruled out of the remainder of the Ashes series due to his torn right calf and no replacement has been added to Australia's squad yet. That means fellow offspinner Todd Murphy is almost certain to replace him for the third Test against England at Headingley starting on Thursday, with Australia 2-0 up in the series.

Spare batter Matt Renshaw, who fielded for Lyon on the final day of the Lord's Test, has been released from the squad but will remain in the UK on standby, meaning Australia's squad has been reduced to 16 with seam bowler Michael Neser remaining with the group having been a late addition for the World Test Championship final and the first two Ashes Tests.

Lyon met with Australia's medical staff on Sunday to confirm that his tour was over, as he had already suspected. It brought to an end his remarkable streak of 100 consecutive Tests. Lord's was his 100th Test in a row and his 122nd overall. He is just the sixth man in Test history to play 100 Tests in a row and the only bowler to do it.

Lyon has also never missed a Test through injury until now. The only other time he did not play for Australia since his Test debut in 2011 was when he was omitted for the first two Tests of the 2013 Ashes series.

Lyon's absence means that Murphy, 22, will almost certainly play in the remaining three Tests. The Victoria offspinner played all four Tests on Australia's tour of India earlier this year and took 14 wickets at 25.21, including 7 for 124 on debut in Nagpur.

Queensland legspinner Mitchell Swepson, who played four Tests for Australia in Pakistan and Sri Lanka in 2022 and was on the tour of India, is in England playing for Glamorgan as an overseas replacement for Neser. He took seven wickets on his Glamorgan debut against Sussex and could be called into the squad if needed.

The release of Renshaw from the squad is a sign Australia's selectors are comfortable with the form and fitness of the batting group after the first two Tests. Renshaw will remain in the UK but any doubts about David Warner's place at the top of the order have been dismissed following his vital 66 on day one in tricky batting conditions at Lord's. Warner also made a valuable 76-ball 25 in the second, under floodlights against the swinging ball, and he and Usman Khawaja became the first Australian opening pair in five years to post half-century partnerships in both innings of a Test.

Marcus Harris and Mitchell Marsh remain as the spare batter and spare allrounder in the squad. Jimmy Peirson is also there as the backup wicketkeeper after Josh Inglis flew home for the birth of his first child following the first Test at Edgbaston. Inglis is still planning to return to the tour at some stage but there has been no timeline placed on it.

Australian squad for third Ashes Test: Pat Cummins (c), Steven Smith, David Warner, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Travis Head, Cameron Green, Alex Carey, Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazlewood, Todd Murphy, Scott Boland, Michael Neser, Marcus Harris, Mitchell Marsh, Jimmy Peirson.

[heater31]

Wowee the UK papers really have some serious sand in the vaginas this morning!

About the only English people in the Australian corner are former captains!

[LaughingKookaburra]

Wowee the UK papers really have some serious sand in the vaginas this morning!

About the only English people in the Australian corner are former captains!

Let them go and drink their own bath water, this is the reason why they are 2-0 down after winning 2 tosses at home. Their lack of focus, maturity and composure is laughable and the Australian camp knows it. They are doing their own heads in…

[Jim05]

Wowee the UK papers really have some serious sand in the vaginas this morning!

About the only English people in the Australian corner are former captains!

Atherton spoke really well and had a decent crack at Bairstow

[Jim05]

Quite a bit of rain around Leeds with forecast predicting the most rain to fall on Saturday and Monday at this stage

[tigerpie]

Wowee the UK papers really have some serious sand in the vaginas this morning!

About the only English people in the Australian corner are former captains!

It's hilarious!!!
They've fallen to bits caused by a fanciful, we are the new powerhouse test nation.
The former captains have it right. It's sloppy cricket.

[RB]

Wowee the UK papers really have some serious sand in the vaginas this morning!

About the only English people in the Australian corner are former captains!

Atherton spoke really well and had a decent crack at Bairstow

In fairness Atherton didn't exactly uphold the highest moral standards in his playing days.

But it is instructive that blokes who actually played test cricket have essentially no problem with it, compared to the Fleet Street hacks and blotto MCC toffs.

[DOC]

Next time we play there I would like to see the support staff include Merv Hughes, Glen McGrath and either Shane Warnes brother or son.

[mal]

Apparently this was said on the Adelaide radio station this morning on 5AA
In an Australian innings when 1/71 Bairstow attempted to run out Lab the same way he ended up being dismissed by Carey
Does anyone have an inkling on this being a fact ?

[mickey]

Apparently this was said on the Adelaide radio station this morning on 5AA
In an Australian innings when 1/71 Bairstow attempted to run out Lab the same way he ended up being dismissed by Carey
Does anyone have an inkling on this being a fact ?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/the-ashes/ashes-2023-australia-vs-england-cricket-news-second-test-at-lords-jonny-bairstow-runout-exposes-hypocrisy-stuart-broad-video/news-story/4f271fe26b1882ccc0466c21e5521b33


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[locky801]

English reporter: "Is there such a thing, or do you believe in such a thing as the 'Spirit of Cricket'?"
Pat Cummins: "Yep."
English reporter: "Do you think after Bairstow's dismissal, which was within the letter of the law - no disputing that, but are we in danger of seeing 'mankads' or underarm bowling later on in this series?"
Pat Cummins: "It depends on how flat the wickets get, it might be an option to turn to."

[The Dark Knight]

Wowee the UK papers really have some serious sand in the vaginas this morning!

About the only English people in the Australian corner are former captains!

Add Mark Butcher to that list, a snippet from the Wisden podcast-
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuPp5oio ... BiNWFlZA==

[whufc]

English reporter: "Is there such a thing, or do you believe in such a thing as the 'Spirit of Cricket'?"
Pat Cummins: "Yep."
English reporter: "Do you think after Bairstow's dismissal, which was within the letter of the law - no disputing that, but are we in danger of seeing 'mankads' or underarm bowling later on in this series?"
Pat Cummins: "It depends on how flat the wickets get, it might be an option to turn to."

Thats the thing.....there is no spirit of cricket anymore and to be honest nearly all professional sports have lost their 'spirit' or intention.

No team is better than the other, look at how the aussies carried on with the Starc catch despite the rule being clear that it wasnt a catch. You can bet your bottom $$$ if we had lost that test it would be our cricketers whinging about the Starc decision and the 'spirit of the game'

BTW i do believe there is a place for the spirit of cricket......imo some of the rules just need a little retweak to be worded more appropriately to the intention of the rules given the $$$$$ in cricket now and the cutthroat nature of the sport.

In Bairstows case he clearly walked out his crease, we can debate the why he did that all day long but he clearly walked out the crease. What we dont want is keepers trying for them stumpings and blokes looking for mankads that are mm's in it. Last thing we want to watch is reviews where the third umpire is deciphering between mili seconds of an umpire saying 'over' and where the batsmen back heel is located at that point.

What over will it be when we see Bairstow have his first throw at the stumps in the next test.....?

[Corona Man]

English reporter: "Is there such a thing, or do you believe in such a thing as the 'Spirit of Cricket'?"
Pat Cummins: "Yep."
English reporter: "Do you think after Bairstow's dismissal, which was within the letter of the law - no disputing that, but are we in danger of seeing 'mankads' or underarm bowling later on in this series?"
Pat Cummins: "It depends on how flat the wickets get, it might be an option to turn to."

Thats the thing.....there is no spirit of cricket anymore and to be honest nearly all professional sports have lost their 'spirit' or intention.

No team is better than the other, look at how the aussies carried on with the Starc catch despite the rule being clear that it wasnt a catch. You can bet your bottom $$$ if we had lost that test it would be our cricketers whinging about the Starc decision and the 'spirit of the game'

BTW i do believe there is a place for the spirit of cricket......imo some of the rules just need a little retweak to be worded more appropriately to the intention of the rules given the $$$$$ in cricket now and the cutthroat nature of the sport.

In Bairstows case he clearly walked out his crease, we can debate the why he did that all day long but he clearly walked out the crease. What we dont want is keepers trying for them stumpings and blokes looking for mankads that are mm's in it. Last thing we want to watch is reviews where the third umpire is deciphering between mili seconds of an umpire saying 'over' and where the batsmen back heel is located at that point.

What over will it be when we see Bairstow have his first throw at the stumps in the next test.....?

The first over. Without a doubt.

[am Bays]

Thats the thing.....there is no spirit of cricket anymore and to be honest nearly all professional sports have lost their 'spirit' or intention.

No team is better than the other, look at how the aussies carried on with the Starc catch despite the rule being clear that it wasnt a catch. You can bet your bottom $$$ if we had lost that test it would be our cricketers whinging about the Starc decision and the 'spirit of the game'

BTW i do believe there is a place for the spirit of cricket......imo some of the rules just need a little retweak to be worded more appropriately to the intention of the rules given the $$$$$ in cricket now and the cutthroat nature of the sport.

In Bairstows case he clearly walked out his crease, we can debate the why he did that all day long but he clearly walked out the crease. What we dont want is keepers trying for them stumpings and blokes looking for mankads that are mm's in it. Last thing we want to watch is reviews where the third umpire is deciphering between mili seconds of an umpire saying 'over' and where the batsmen back heel is located at that point.

What over will it be when we see Bairstow have his first throw at the stumps in the next test.....?

Nah there is a spirit of cricket it’s just not this fanciful notion of artificial fairness and behaviours of an idealised 19th century playing fields of Gentlemanly England

It’s about playing within the laws of the game and accepting the umpires decision

That to me is the spirit of cricket in a nutshell.

That and having a beer after the game with your opponent win lose or draw to say well played

[whufc]

Thats the thing.....there is no spirit of cricket anymore and to be honest nearly all professional sports have lost their 'spirit' or intention.

No team is better than the other, look at how the aussies carried on with the Starc catch despite the rule being clear that it wasnt a catch. You can bet your bottom $$$ if we had lost that test it would be our cricketers whinging about the Starc decision and the 'spirit of the game'

BTW i do believe there is a place for the spirit of cricket......imo some of the rules just need a little retweak to be worded more appropriately to the intention of the rules given the $$$$$ in cricket now and the cutthroat nature of the sport.

In Bairstows case he clearly walked out his crease, we can debate the why he did that all day long but he clearly walked out the crease. What we dont want is keepers trying for them stumpings and blokes looking for mankads that are mm's in it. Last thing we want to watch is reviews where the third umpire is deciphering between mili seconds of an umpire saying 'over' and where the batsmen back heel is located at that point.

What over will it be when we see Bairstow have his first throw at the stumps in the next test.....?

Nah there is a spirit of cricket it’s just not this fanciful notion of artificial fairness and behaviours of an idealised 19th century playing fields of Gentlemanly England

It’s about playing within the laws of the game and accepting the umpires decision

That to me is the spirit of cricket in a nutshell.

That and having a beer after the game with your opponent win lose or draw to say well played

This one is long gone..... especially accepting the umpires decision, that has pretty much gone out the window since we introduced reviews. Look at the big nations, the carry on from Australia, England and India is terrible when stuff doesn't go there way.

Every country has been guilty of deliberating playing outside the laws of the game in modern cricket, Australia sandpapergate, England lollies etc.

But it is kind of my point. The rules need some tweaking with understanding in modern cricket that every inch will be taken if the rule isnt completely black or white.

England have spent the whole week trying to be the moral spirit of cricket good guys but you can guarantee whether in jest or not that Bairstow will have a crack at the stumps at some point this test.