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Re: Carlton

Postby Armchair expert » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:11 pm

I think Saad Williams Martin would be absolute guns in good sides

unfortunately they aren't playing in a good side
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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:04 am

Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.
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Re: Carlton

Postby whufc » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:08 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


100% agree.

Carlton are not in a position to be fussy about their style of football, they just need to start winning games.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:14 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:53 am

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


They don't have enough of it.

If they were all on the park I think they have a decent foundation.
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Re: Carlton

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:01 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


Reckon Teague has one week left in him, once the Crows beat them on Sunday night he'll be lucky to be there Monday morning.
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:07 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


I’m not into sacking coaches but Teague hasn’t really fired a shot this year at all.
The more I think about it the more I think Buckley will be the man for the job.
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Re: Carlton

Postby mots02 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:11 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


I’m not into sacking coaches but Teague hasn’t really fired a shot this year at all.
The more I think about it the more I think Buckley will be the man for the job.


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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:19 pm

mots02 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Will Teague see the season out? I guess it will depend on who they can secure to take the role, they need a no fuss tough operator, I think a Ross Lyon would be ideal right now.

They have the talent, extracting it out of all the players and finding positive consistency is the key, in this day and age a club shouldn't have mediocrity for a sustained period like the Blues have.

Say what you will about Lyon but he has a very impressive W/L record but not having the Premiership medal around his neck, that would chew at him.


I’m not into sacking coaches but Teague hasn’t really fired a shot this year at all.
The more I think about it the more I think Buckley will be the man for the job.


Nicky Buckley, with Jo Silvani as list manager (can't do a worse job that SOS) and Tony Barber as the runner!


A female will be the head coach in the AFL this decade so why not start with a couple of tidy old boilers.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:51 am

Some of the vision on the footy shows last night was dead set horrible stuff, if Teague can't get a correction this week - which shouldn't be hard to do, then they have to act on him.
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:52 am

Dutchy wrote:Some of the vision on the footy shows last night was dead set horrible stuff, if Teague can't get a correction this week - which shouldn't be hard to do, then they have to act on him.


He needs to drop the player/s in question to send a clear message of what is required.

There is no reason for a lack of effort as was shown last night.
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Re: Carlton

Postby MW » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:55 am

you pricks are gearing up to smash us this week...
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Re: Carlton

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:13 am

MW wrote:you pricks are gearing up to smash us this week...


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Re: Carlton

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:14 am

Carlton $1.59
Adelaide $2.36

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Re: Carlton

Postby JK » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:16 am

The fact Carlton have trotted out the "Review" line would surely have to buy the coach time til at least the review is completed? (FWIW I reckon he's a dead man walking)
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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 am

JK wrote:The fact Carlton have trotted out the "Review" line would surely have to buy the coach time til at least the review is completed? (FWIW I reckon he's a dead man walking)

A loss to Adelaide and there will be a Monday morning presser.
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Re: Carlton

Postby JK » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:58 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:The fact Carlton have trotted out the "Review" line would surely have to buy the coach time til at least the review is completed? (FWIW I reckon he's a dead man walking)

A loss to Adelaide and there will be a Monday morning presser.


Yep, sorry I should have said excluding that situation (because even a win over the Crows will be followed at some point by another useless Blues performance)
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Re: Carlton

Postby MW » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:35 pm

Booney wrote:Carlton $1.59
Adelaide $2.36

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Re: Carlton

Postby am Bays » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:58 pm

JK wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:The fact Carlton have trotted out the "Review" line would surely have to buy the coach time til at least the review is completed? (FWIW I reckon he's a dead man walking)

A loss to Adelaide and there will be a Monday morning presser.


Yep, sorry I should have said excluding that situation (because even a win over the Crows will be followed at some point by another useless Blues performance)


Not sure about this. To me this about the playing group and their lack of want and work rate.

Teague needs to set some clear KPis on effort and work rate that the team are on board with with the team that he knows will deliver, "OK Boys what are the two priority indicators that we want to focus on today that indicate that we've given it all for the guernsey"

if that doesn't work after four weeks: http://www.sportspeople.com.au
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Re: Carlton

Postby JK » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:06 pm

am Bays wrote:
JK wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:The fact Carlton have trotted out the "Review" line would surely have to buy the coach time til at least the review is completed? (FWIW I reckon he's a dead man walking)

A loss to Adelaide and there will be a Monday morning presser.


Yep, sorry I should have said excluding that situation (because even a win over the Crows will be followed at some point by another useless Blues performance)


Not sure about this. To me this about the playing group and their lack of want and work rate.

Teague needs to set some clear KPis on effort and work rate that the team are on board with with the team that he knows will deliver, "OK Boys what are the two priority indicators that we want to focus on today that indicate that we've given it all for the guernsey"

if that doesn't work after four weeks: http://www.sportspeople.com.au


The issues you mention have been prevalent for a long time so still fall under a failure of the senior coach I would think. I'm not close enough to know the situation, but from the outside you would question his group of assistants also. I like the bloke, but whenever a side is clearly sup-par in an area and show zero signs of improvement in that area, there's only so long he can survive imho. If they'd addressed their defensive and effort woes but another issue had emerged, well then yeah maybe that buys some time. Their list management team will come under fair scrutiny too you would think.
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