by Booney » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 am
by Dogs64 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:57 am
Dutchy wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
Then why did they appoint an outsider for 3 years? Who is taking accountability for that decision?
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:59 am
gazzamagoo wrote:Dutchy wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
Then why did they appoint an outsider for 3 years? Who is taking accountability for that decision?
I think we ran out of time,
rushed or panicked maybe?
Granty will take responsibility.
by Booney » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:02 pm
by northerner » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:02 pm
Dutchy wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
Then why did they appoint an outsider for 3 years? Who is taking accountability for that decision?
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:06 pm
Dogs64 wrote:Dutchy wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
Then why did they appoint an outsider for 3 years? Who is taking accountability for that decision?
I think Mark Williams and Port Adelaide should. Mark recommended him, it's a Port conspiracy. No AFL in the SANFL!
by gazzamagoo » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:09 pm
Booney wrote:Board meetings at Cibo?
by gazzamagoo » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:10 pm
by Booney » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:11 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:Booney wrote:Board meetings at Cibo?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
Sfizio!
by Wedgie » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:16 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:Booney wrote:Board meetings at Cibo?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
Sfizio!
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by amber_fluid » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:18 pm
Booney wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:Booney wrote:Board meetings at Cibo?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
Sfizio!
Centrals board meetings held over deconstructed smashed avo and free range eggs with almond milk responsibly harvested Ethiopian latte.
Times have changed man.
by northerner » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:28 pm
whufc wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
See if Granty/the board came out and said that and admitted he made a mistake in hiring an outsider I think the club would have handled it very well.
The running from media, that blatant disregard he/they held the members and fans in when literally the whole state knew what he/they had planned was very poor in my opinion.
To me the fact that they couldn't even come out and be proud of the moves they have made screams that they are not even confident in the recent decisions they have made.
In the 70-90's you could get away with stuff like that, we wouldn't have even known the coach had been sacked lol, this is 2020 and people live in a fast food society, we hear everything right now, news moves right now, people/fans have more power/knowledge/facts/stats than ever before.
by wild dog » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:29 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:45 pm
Booney wrote:Andrews was sacked because Thomas was available, trying to "sell" it any other way is futile, anyone and everyone in the football world can see that's what happened but as JK said, as long as Centrals people are happy with it then there's no need to justify or explain the actions to anyone.
Saying multiple people were interviewed is probably true, but Thomas had the job and there's no way anyone would believe anything else.
Just don't piss in people's pockets and tell them it's raining.
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:50 pm
northerner wrote:whufc wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:The club's stand on this issue is simple,
We're a different club at Centrals,
it's a different environment than the other clubs & we need to stick to what's best for us,
don't appoint from outside the club because they wouldn't understand how we operate & our culture,
it didn't work with Cowboy,
it didn't work with Kerley,
it didn't really work with Clarko,
success came from the hard work of people like Alan Stewart, Kris Grant, Bill Cochrane & Roy Laird & all the die-hard volunteers who bleed for the club,,
You couldn't get a better Red, White & Blue pedigree than Paul Thomas,
his old man is a legend of the club, as is Paul too & now we have a female Thommo running around,
Port stuck with this principle for years & look where that got them in the SANFL,
we've copied them before & it worked,
time to get back to basics, back to our roots & start to rebuild the winning culture.
At least we'll now have the 100% support of all the players.
See if Granty/the board came out and said that and admitted he made a mistake in hiring an outsider I think the club would have handled it very well.
The running from media, that blatant disregard he/they held the members and fans in when literally the whole state knew what he/they had planned was very poor in my opinion.
To me the fact that they couldn't even come out and be proud of the moves they have made screams that they are not even confident in the recent decisions they have made.
In the 70-90's you could get away with stuff like that, we wouldn't have even known the coach had been sacked lol, this is 2020 and people live in a fast food society, we hear everything right now, news moves right now, people/fans have more power/knowledge/facts/stats than ever before.
Point is that Gazza can say things that might not be wise for Kris and the Board to say...
In a non destructive parting of ways, what did the opposing parties not want from the divide?
The Club didnt want to be left with a significant payout.
The Coach didn't want his reputation sullied.
Okay... so, hypothetically of course, lets agree to make sure each partys worse fear is not realised. A trade off, which enables both parties to move forward with less damage than what may have been the case.
Sometimes its far more prudent to not divulge info...and conversely not seek it...
by wild dog » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:09 pm
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:36 pm
wild dog wrote:Personally as a paid up member and financial contributor, I don't want Kris and the board to spend too much time worrying about the message this appointment process sends to CDFC supporters. We currently have an SANFL administration where the message is effectively that the SANFL league is no longer their main priority. The SANFL exists to support what the AFL wants. If you want to attack a message that affects SANFL supporters, attack that.
We are talking about a club ran on a shoestring who do not have teams of PR executives; from my personal observations we struggle to afford a proper marketing team (come back Kym Jarman please.) There is no network of chums from Saint Knobs or Princes Polishers et al who can knock out a spin team after hours in the Adelaide Club. For the 2000 CDFC members or so, probably a couple of hundred visit the club each week. They can just knock on Kris Grants office door and have a discussion. For me without any knowledge of the process and as an outside spectator, the process was carried out with little fuss and remarkable speed. As to whether Paul was the main contender, so what. They carried out due diligence, held appropriate interviews and made a decision. It happens in the public service every week and in the private sector main contenders are targeted. To think that a public statement would read that they sacked Andrews because a better guy was available on our door step, which could then possibly invoke a clause where Andrews could demand compensation, is naïve to the extreme.
by gazzamagoo » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:44 pm
whufc wrote:wild dog wrote:Personally as a paid up member and financial contributor, I don't want Kris and the board to spend too much time worrying about the message this appointment process sends to CDFC supporters. We currently have an SANFL administration where the message is effectively that the SANFL league is no longer their main priority. The SANFL exists to support what the AFL wants. If you want to attack a message that affects SANFL supporters, attack that.
We are talking about a club ran on a shoestring who do not have teams of PR executives; from my personal observations we struggle to afford a proper marketing team (come back Kym Jarman please.) There is no network of chums from Saint Knobs or Princes Polishers et al who can knock out a spin team after hours in the Adelaide Club. For the 2000 CDFC members or so, probably a couple of hundred visit the club each week. They can just knock on Kris Grants office door and have a discussion. For me without any knowledge of the process and as an outside spectator, the process was carried out with little fuss and remarkable speed. As to whether Paul was the main contender, so what. They carried out due diligence, held appropriate interviews and made a decision. It happens in the public service every week and in the private sector main contenders are targeted. To think that a public statement would read that they sacked Andrews because a better guy was available on our door step, which could then possibly invoke a clause where Andrews could demand compensation, is naïve to the extreme.
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm
by whufc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:whufc wrote:wild dog wrote:Personally as a paid up member and financial contributor, I don't want Kris and the board to spend too much time worrying about the message this appointment process sends to CDFC supporters. We currently have an SANFL administration where the message is effectively that the SANFL league is no longer their main priority. The SANFL exists to support what the AFL wants. If you want to attack a message that affects SANFL supporters, attack that.
We are talking about a club ran on a shoestring who do not have teams of PR executives; from my personal observations we struggle to afford a proper marketing team (come back Kym Jarman please.) There is no network of chums from Saint Knobs or Princes Polishers et al who can knock out a spin team after hours in the Adelaide Club. For the 2000 CDFC members or so, probably a couple of hundred visit the club each week. They can just knock on Kris Grants office door and have a discussion. For me without any knowledge of the process and as an outside spectator, the process was carried out with little fuss and remarkable speed. As to whether Paul was the main contender, so what. They carried out due diligence, held appropriate interviews and made a decision. It happens in the public service every week and in the private sector main contenders are targeted. To think that a public statement would read that they sacked Andrews because a better guy was available on our door step, which could then possibly invoke a clause where Andrews could demand compensation, is naïve to the extreme.
At some point the club must have told Andrews the 'real' reason whether that was in person/via phone/via email so if a public statement is telling the truth then the club should have nothing to worry about in the case of compensation unless Andrews has a genuine case for it, which he would have regardless of what the statement said. I also believe come the AGM the club should be open about the financial position the sacking has put the club in, I hope as others have mentioned that we are actually better of financially for this. Especially given they were begging for money to survive only 12 months ago.
The club are yet to even say that he was sacked due to 'on-field results'
misconduct is a term I've heard
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