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Re: COVID-19

Postby Trader » Sun May 31, 2020 6:54 pm

Umpires Association wrote:Our position has been influenced by the expectation that all community based footballers’ in South Australia, including SANFL will not receive any remuneration in 2020


But we already know a large portion of SANFL players are getting paid, and paid quite substantially as they have been signed up to jobkeeper at $1500 per week.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby The Bedge » Sun May 31, 2020 8:08 pm

Tinfoil hat time..

If SANFL players are eligible for job keeper.. and umpires (panel) are taking a significant reduction in payment.. does that mean they’re eligible too?
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Brodlach » Sun May 31, 2020 8:13 pm

The Bedge wrote:Tinfoil hat time..

If SANFL players are eligible for job keeper.. and umpires (panel) are taking a significant reduction in payment.. does that mean they’re eligible too?


Would think, IMO -
1. Umpiring isn’t their first job/income for most
2. They don’t pay tax on this income so they shouldn’t/wouldn’t be eligible


Are there SANFL players on it (who don’t work at the club normally) or is it a myth?
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Mr Beefy » Sun May 31, 2020 9:04 pm

The Bedge wrote:Tinfoil hat time..

If SANFL players are eligible for job keeper.. and umpires (panel) are taking a significant reduction in payment.. does that mean they’re eligible too?
Please.... it's tax free money

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Re: COVID-19

Postby The Bedge » Sun May 31, 2020 9:38 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Tinfoil hat time..

If SANFL players are eligible for job keeper.. and umpires (panel) are taking a significant reduction in payment.. does that mean they’re eligible too?
Please.... it's tax free money

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How do you know they don’t declare it as income? :P
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Mr Beefy » Sun May 31, 2020 9:40 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Tinfoil hat time..

If SANFL players are eligible for job keeper.. and umpires (panel) are taking a significant reduction in payment.. does that mean they’re eligible too?
Please.... it's tax free money

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How do you know they don’t declare it as income? :P
Would you declare hobby money as income?

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Re: COVID-19

Postby The Bedge » Sun May 31, 2020 9:44 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:Would you declare hobby money as income?

If it meant I could claim expenses related to it.. probably :lol:
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:02 am

Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:50% pay cut is terrible.. any Umpire pay cut is terrible.


Why? Everyone is taking a cut or not getting paid at all

Honestly, that is a terrible comment.

Players play footy for the comradeship etc, the umpires don't get together after the game and talk about their free kicks over a beer.

They go out there in all types of conditions and every time they blow their whistle, half the people there hate them.

They cop endless shit from drunken pigs on the outer who know f*** all about footy and have rose coloured glasses.

If you think blokes are going to choose to go and umpire for bugger all on a Saturday afternoon when they could be at home in the warmth with their family then you're going to see the ramifications of this.

By the time an umpire buys all of his attire required it takes about 4-5 rounds to recoup the costs, and that is during a normal season.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Cougar » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:09 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:50% pay cut is terrible.. any Umpire pay cut is terrible.


Why? Everyone is taking a cut or not getting paid at all

Honestly, that is a terrible comment.

Players play footy for the comradeship etc, the umpires don't get together after the game and talk about their free kicks over a beer.

They go out there in all types of conditions and every time they blow their whistle, half the people there hate them.

They cop endless shit from drunken pigs on the outer who know f*** all about footy and have rose coloured glasses.

If you think blokes are going to choose to go and umpire for bugger all on a Saturday afternoon when they could be at home in the warmth with their family then you're going to see the ramifications of this.

By the time an umpire buys all of his attire required it takes about 4-5 rounds to recoup the costs, and that is during a normal season.


Agree. Would have thought Umpire Payments would be the last expense taken aback. All umpiring fraternities are struggling to recruit without less incentive been thrown at them.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby S Demon » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:12 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:50% pay cut is terrible.. any Umpire pay cut is terrible.


Why? Everyone is taking a cut or not getting paid at all

Honestly, that is a terrible comment.

Players play footy for the comradeship etc, the umpires don't get together after the game and talk about their free kicks over a beer.

They go out there in all types of conditions and every time they blow their whistle, half the people there hate them.

They cop endless shit from drunken pigs on the outer who know f*** all about footy and have rose coloured glasses.

If you think blokes are going to choose to go and umpire for bugger all on a Saturday afternoon when they could be at home in the warmth with their family then you're going to see the ramifications of this.

By the time an umpire buys all of his attire required it takes about 4-5 rounds to recoup the costs, and that is during a normal season.

Not sure this is accurate
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Re: COVID-19

Postby The Bedge » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:24 am

Can't wait to have the conversations with club umpires to let them know they're only gonna get half. :lol:
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:26 am

S Demon wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:50% pay cut is terrible.. any Umpire pay cut is terrible.


Why? Everyone is taking a cut or not getting paid at all

Honestly, that is a terrible comment.

Players play footy for the comradeship etc, the umpires don't get together after the game and talk about their free kicks over a beer.

They go out there in all types of conditions and every time they blow their whistle, half the people there hate them.

They cop endless shit from drunken pigs on the outer who know f*** all about footy and have rose coloured glasses.

If you think blokes are going to choose to go and umpire for bugger all on a Saturday afternoon when they could be at home in the warmth with their family then you're going to see the ramifications of this.

By the time an umpire buys all of his attire required it takes about 4-5 rounds to recoup the costs, and that is during a normal season.

Not sure this is accurate


Boots/Shoes: $200 (on the cheap)
A new whistle:$20
2 shirts: $60
2 pairs of socks: $20
A hat: $16
Slacks: $50
Jacket: $60
Polo: $40
Shorts: $20

There's over $400 just there.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby The Bedge » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:28 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Boots/Shoes: $200 (on the cheap).

If that's on the cheap, you're not a very good bargain shopper :lol:
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:32 am

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Boots/Shoes: $200 (on the cheap).

If that's on the cheap, you're not a very good bargain shopper :lol:


Mate, If you go too cheap you're replacing them in July, nothing worse than a soaking sock as soon as you tread on the grass.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:32 am

The Bedge wrote:Can't wait to have the conversations with club umpires to let them know they're only gonna get half. :lol:

To do both games.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby The Bedge » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:38 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Boots/Shoes: $200 (on the cheap).

If that's on the cheap, you're not a very good bargain shopper :lol:


Mate, If you go too cheap you're replacing them in July, nothing worse than a soaking sock as soon as you tread on the grass.

Duct tape fixes all 8) :lol:
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Re: COVID-19

Postby am Bays » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:55 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
S Demon wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
Why? Everyone is taking a cut or not getting paid at all

Honestly, that is a terrible comment.

Players play footy for the comradeship etc, the umpires don't get together after the game and talk about their free kicks over a beer.

They go out there in all types of conditions and every time they blow their whistle, half the people there hate them.

They cop endless shit from drunken pigs on the outer who know f*** all about footy and have rose coloured glasses.

If you think blokes are going to choose to go and umpire for bugger all on a Saturday afternoon when they could be at home in the warmth with their family then you're going to see the ramifications of this.

By the time an umpire buys all of his attire required it takes about 4-5 rounds to recoup the costs, and that is during a normal season.

Not sure this is accurate


Boots/Shoes: $200 (on the cheap)
A new whistle:$20
2 shirts: $60
2 pairs of socks: $20
A hat: $16
Slacks: $50
Jacket: $60
Polo: $40
Shorts: $20

There's over $400 just there.

Aint that the truth, especially from those who are half cut and
a) never read the laws of Australian Football book in their life
b) have no idea of the current years law interpretations sent down on high from AFL house
c) No idea of the different interpretations, Law exemptions and by-Laws being applied by the local league compared to the game they saw the previous night on FOX of Ch7
d) have no appreciation for how the game is being forced to become safer and that the ball must be the object for all players at all times,
e) Think the game should be umpired like it was in the 80s and 90s because footy was better then - that may be true but unfortunately the umpires are being told to umpire to the 2020 laws and interpretations

Re costs
Not to mention your association fees (some of which you get back through subsidised events but you still pay for your personal insurance and support for your relative association/club.

It's interesting they're agreeing for it for 2020 only.

AdFL going to be happy to have them at 2019 pay levels in 2021?

Having said all that I agree with the need for a pay cut don't agree with 50% maybe 25% tops.

As a member of the umpires committee up here were worried about how a cut will impact the recruitment of younger umpires as using the 50% cut as a barometer, that could tip the balance where potential umpires say, Not worth it from the level of abuse and the amount of effort and commitment required.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Footy Chick » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:16 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:50% pay cut is terrible.. any Umpire pay cut is terrible.


Why? Everyone is taking a cut or not getting paid at all

Honestly, that is a terrible comment.

Players play footy for the comradeship etc, the umpires don't get together after the game and talk about their free kicks over a beer.

They go out there in all types of conditions and every time they blow their whistle, half the people there hate them.

They cop endless shit from drunken pigs on the outer who know f*** all about footy and have rose coloured glasses.

If you think blokes are going to choose to go and umpire for bugger all on a Saturday afternoon when they could be at home in the warmth with their family then you're going to see the ramifications of this.

By the time an umpire buys all of his attire required it takes about 4-5 rounds to recoup the costs, and that is during a normal season.


Of course you'd say that, you're an ump - however, it's official - umps are taking a 50% reduction for season 2020 only.

Good on 'em for coming to the party - it can't have been an easy decision, given the very important part they play in our game. but given everyone from the top down and the bottom up is doing a brilliant job in helping keep grass roots clubs afloat for this season, it was the right thing to do.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby zedman » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:21 pm

Very generous move by the umpires and it will make a huge difference to the clubs, umpires fees are a big part of a footy club budget.

Lets remember them before and after the game and make sure they get a few benefits.
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Re: COVID-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:30 pm

Footy Chick wrote:
Of course you'd say that, you're an ump - however, it's official - umps are taking a 50% reduction for season 2020 only.

Good on 'em for coming to the party - it can't have been an easy decision, given the very important part they play in our game. but given everyone from the top down and the bottom up is doing a brilliant job in helping keep grass roots clubs afloat for this season, it was the right thing to do.

LOL, some things you should leave alone.

I'm not an AdFL umpire so it makes little difference to me, your comments just make it another backhanded slap in the chops to the umpiring fraternity.
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