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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Jim05 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:54 pm

beef wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Adelaide trade pick 19 and future first rounder to Carlton for their 2019 first rounder


Odd I think

I think they rate Stocker higher than any potential pick next year. All clubs would already have next year's draft order at this stage. Hopefully adelaide are shit and Carlton improve then it's not that much difference.

Carlton will be bottom 2-3 again next year
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby marbles » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:02 pm

Jim05 wrote:
beef wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Adelaide trade pick 19 and future first rounder to Carlton for their 2019 first rounder


Odd I think

I think they rate Stocker higher than any potential pick next year. All clubs would already have next year's draft order at this stage. Hopefully adelaide are shit and Carlton improve then it's not that much difference.

Carlton will be bottom 2-3 again next year


With essendon last.

18th place

And pick 1 next year
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Jim05 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:16 pm

marbles wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
beef wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Adelaide trade pick 19 and future first rounder to Carlton for their 2019 first rounder


Odd I think

I think they rate Stocker higher than any potential pick next year. All clubs would already have next year's draft order at this stage. Hopefully adelaide are shit and Carlton improve then it's not that much difference.

Carlton will be bottom 2-3 again next year


With essendon last.

18th place

And pick 1 next year

Lol
We have had 1 number 1 pick in the history of the draft and that was due to having the majority of our side suspended. Even then we tried our best to avoid it whereas Carlton wear it like a badge of honour and are proud of having pick 1 year after year
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:26 pm

Jim05 wrote:Carlton will be the first club in history to have had 5 number 1 picks [emoji3]


This is THE most useless stat in the AFL.

Clearly it means zero. What it does mean is that clubs like Carlton need to get up with the Geelong's, Adelaide's, Hawthorn's in drafting guys ready made from other clubs rather than hold their hopes on unproven talent.

I'm sick of Carlton 'needing' pick 1's. They don't need them they need proven talent and they should be doing everything in their power going forward to ensure we're not using pick 1.

Pick 1 in the NBA and NFL is proven to get the ball and be able to use it in the majority of plays. It doesn't happen in the AFL, the model is flawed and I think the teams mentioned above prove that. They've had sustained finals appearances without having many if any top 10 draft picks.

As an entity, we need to move on from the stigma of top draft picks because it means very little, unless there is an absolute stand out, which I hope this year is. Note, I say 'hope'. Would I prefer pick 1 over a proven Dylan Shiel....hmm, that's the quandry most clubs would ponder. If you manage your salary cap well and your list well, then you'd be in a prime position to attract the likes of those players. I see Carlton trying to set themselves up like Hawthorn but we have a long way to go.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Brodlach » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:33 pm

Or perhaps they should just develop their own talent.

You could have 30 top 20 picks but if you don’t develop the players it means zero
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:34 pm

Brodlach wrote:Or perhaps they should just develop their own talent.

You could have 30 top 20 picks but if you don’t develop the players it means zero


What's that mean?

Edit, sorry gotcha. I agree! It's the picks between 30-50 that supplement those players, like Geelong had done previously.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby marbles » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:59 am

Sydney got a goal kicking machine strong marking tall and son of an ex afl player in nick blakey

Carlton got another boring midfielder Brendan bolten clone, yep we'll build a team around him

Omg :D
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:15 am

seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:16 am

marbles wrote:Sydney got a goal kicking machine strong marking tall and son of an ex afl player in nick blakey

Carlton got another boring midfielder Brendan bolten clone, yep we'll build a team around him

Omg :D


Real excited about how Blakey will turn out. People are saying he's our best product from the Academy ever... Only time will tell
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Booney » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:32 am

woodublieve12 wrote:seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns


They're idiots if they think Lukosius and Rankine were going to be there at 5 and 8.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby whufc » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:35 am

woodublieve12 wrote:seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns


Has been brilliant hasn't it.

Absolutely love it the amount of F**K you Gold Coast, Your an irrelevant club GC posts getting around on Facebook.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:41 am

Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns


They're idiots if they think Lukosius and Rankine were going to be there at 5 and 8.

yep, and if gold coast didn't get them they would have been abused for letting them slip... unbelievable... If managed well they could have some very handy players.
Dew is a good fit there and he will be real good for them.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:43 am

I am even having a chuckle how people are saying the swans rorted the system :lol:
They just did a real good job last night
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Brodlach » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:57 am

whufc wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns


Has been brilliant hasn't it.

Absolutely love it the amount of F**K you Gold Coast, Your an irrelevant club GC posts getting around on Facebook.

I think there are 17 club supporters on the same wavelength on this one ;)
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby David Brent » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:26 am

Brodlach wrote:
whufc wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns


Has been brilliant hasn't it.

Absolutely love it the amount of F**K you Gold Coast, Your an irrelevant club GC posts getting around on Facebook.

I think there are 17 club supporters on the same wavelength on this one ;)


Not me, imagine being drafted to Tassie & having to live in Hobart & play & train down there. Absolutely no thanks. I'd be requesting a trade back to the mainland asap.

Love reading Twitter on the draft night. Enjoyed some dirty Norf supporters calling the Crows dogs for bidding earlier than expected on Thomas.

Also enjoyed one Port fan telling another to check out one of their drafted players highlights package saying he doesn't turn it over or waste disposal. Like they are going to whack a couple turnovers or clangers into everyone's highlight package!!
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby DOC » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:36 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
marbles wrote:Sydney got a goal kicking machine strong marking tall and son of an ex afl player in nick blakey

Carlton got another boring midfielder Brendan bolten clone, yep we'll build a team around him

Omg :D


Real excited about how Blakey will turn out. People are saying he's our best product from the Academy ever... Only time will tell



Has not played a lot of footy in the last two years. Missed the last 10 weeks of 2017 with a stress fracture in his back and missed a lot of this season with persistent ankle injuries. He is very lightly built so he may be more of a long term prospect.

Sydney were always going to take him and I am not sure if GWS bid for him just to ensure Sydney had to pay more for him or not.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:38 am

"Fellas, it’s OK to be in pain. It’s OK to hurt. It’s OK to be sad. It’s no longer OK to suffer in silence."
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Booney » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:45 am

woodublieve12 wrote:https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/north-melbourne-great-david-king-says-sydney-outsmarted-the-system-to-secure-son-of-a-gun-nick-blakey/news-story/fe68e84cc022d97e6f96082d3f00e9df?fbclid=IwAR2KaR6SIzoGXW87Mmu7QyawDd7maDC6Qz1KNvg51sWXI0d_Te0Qz_-y3nE


Shows how ****** up the VFL father-son system is. Blakey played 135 games for a club that is dead, Nick could have nominated Brisbane as his club of choice. Load of shit.
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby Q. » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:48 am

whufc wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:seeing some real salty cow and port supporters online because the suns got the players they wanted....

Good work by the suns


Has been brilliant hasn't it.

Absolutely love it the amount of F**K you Gold Coast, Your an irrelevant club GC posts getting around on Facebook.


And the sheer collective arrogance in thinking they will walk back to SA in two years
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Re: Trade + Draft Period 2018

Postby David Brent » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:53 am

Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/north-melbourne-great-david-king-says-sydney-outsmarted-the-system-to-secure-son-of-a-gun-nick-blakey/news-story/fe68e84cc022d97e6f96082d3f00e9df?fbclid=IwAR2KaR6SIzoGXW87Mmu7QyawDd7maDC6Qz1KNvg51sWXI0d_Te0Qz_-y3nE


Shows how ****** up the VFL father-son system is. Blakey played 135 games for a club that is dead, Nick could have nominated Brisbane as his club of choice. Load of shit.


I enjoy the romance of the father son rule but I think its coming to a time where it needs to go. Just let the kids go into the draft & let anyone have the option of taking them.
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