ATCA

[Tony Clifton]

10s and 12s do stuff all to the wickets anyway. They're too light. Even after senior women play a match it barely looks as though there has been a game played. Yeah spikes better than sandshoes though

[daysofourlives]

WE have been doing this in the B&LCA this season. It is great for the kids on the shorter pitches, better cricket for everyone involved.
As for the pitches, absolutely no damage is done. At Angaston where i am the curator we had 2 days with the state country carnival for U12s where they played 2 games per day in the middle of January. There was no damage whatsover, the creases were bought forward 1m at each end. Anyone is welcome to come and have a look at our square, the only damage anywhere from the whole season is the crease from the seniors.
I will concede one issue with it and that is the lines being used to mark the crease. We had u16s on the same pitch the next day and there was 5 occasions where batsman ran one short because they onl;y touched down at the 1st line( the u12 crease). If this could be fixed there would be no issues.

[The Bedge]

Could you paint the shorter creases a different colour?

[daysofourlives]

Could you paint the shorter creases a different colour?

Yeah i think that would be the go.

[Lightning McQueen]

Could you paint the shorter creases a different colour?

Just put a couple of dots there perhaps, surely no-balls aren't administered.

[tigerpie]

We have our u12's play on a Friday night on the same wicket as the seniors the next day.
Some of these kids are bloody huge for supposedly being 11.
The issue curators have is the big kid that slams his bat into the wicket or marks middle by bashing his bat down.
Now I'm all about juniors playing on turf but I can see this being I giant issue.
Extra lines for bowlers to arrow in on.
Sorry, I think its dumb!

[tigerpie]

I heard last night that next year 12's and 10's will be playing on shorter turf wickets.
Brighton did it on their no1 ground on the weekend, so bowlers running in on a good length.
Curators nightmare!

Curators won't mind*. It's the creases/footmarks at each end that become the biggest issue during a season. This will actually spread the wear and tear out a bit.

*well, curators don't want any junior cricket or extra games played on their wickets really. So they 'won't mind' anymore than they do already

except that footmarks will now be on a good length for proper cricket. Junior cricket wouldn't be as big of a problem of they wore spikes. Rubber soled shoes is what does the damage

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I'm with you mickey.
Spikes will be a problem with the kids marking centre on a good length.
If there's been a bit of weather about they'll be doing all sorts of damage.

[tigerpie]

I heard last night that next year 12's and 10's will be playing on shorter turf wickets.
Brighton did it on their no1 ground on the weekend, so bowlers running in on a good length.
Curators nightmare!

Curators won't mind*. It's the creases/footmarks at each end that become the biggest issue during a season. This will actually spread the wear and tear out a bit.

*well, curators don't want any junior cricket or extra games played on their wickets really. So they 'won't mind' anymore than they do already

Tony I don't know what club you are at but if your curator has the above attitude you should sack him today!
And spreading the wear and tear out is what we are trying ALL season to avoid!

[daysofourlives]

I heard last night that next year 12's and 10's will be playing on shorter turf wickets.
Brighton did it on their no1 ground on the weekend, so bowlers running in on a good length.
Curators nightmare!

Curators won't mind*. It's the creases/footmarks at each end that become the biggest issue during a season. This will actually spread the wear and tear out a bit.

*well, curators don't want any junior cricket or extra games played on their wickets really. So they 'won't mind' anymore than they do already

except that footmarks will now be on a good length for proper cricket. Junior cricket wouldn't be as big of a problem of they wore spikes. Rubber soled shoes is what does the damage

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I'm with you mickey.
Spikes will be a problem with the kids marking centre on a good length.
If there's been a bit of weather about they'll be doing all sorts of damage.

Easy fix, dont let them mark centre with spikes, put a line there.
There was plenty of narrow mindedness within our comp too before the introduction. It has pretty much gone off without a hitch. The cricket kids are playing is so much better. At u10 level they will come in further to a 16m pitch or even more if the ability of the kid is such that he needs to be closer. Its absolutely a non issue for turf wickets,
And if you are really worried about it any disturbance to the wicket is 1m from the crease, any batsman thats any good wouldnt have any issue with a ball landing there, its a half volley ffs

[tigerpie]

Days your arithmetic is not great. You must be a bowler.
20-16=4
4÷2=2
Danger area is approx. 1.5metres from the front line.
Or you bring the stumps forward at one end 4 metres.
Its a dumb idea. OK for hard wicket but not on turf.

[Jim05]

Days your arithmetic is not great. You must be a bowler.
20-16=4
4÷2=2
Danger area is approx. 1.5metres from the front line.
Or you bring the stumps forward at one end 4 metres.
Its a dumb idea. OK for hard wicket but not on turf.

Yet as Days has stated it works perfectly fine in the Barossa which is a highly regarded junior comp and has recently held all the state junior comps. The clubs that hosted the u12’s were playing 2 games a day over a couple of days and reported no issues.

[Trader]

Days your arithmetic is not great. You must be a bowler.
20-16=4
4÷2=2
Danger area is approx. 1.5metres from the front line.
Or you bring the stumps forward at one end 4 metres.
Its a dumb idea. OK for hard wicket but not on turf.

You been smoking your grass clippings a little too much tigerpie?

At u10 level they will come in further to a 16m pitch or even more if the ability of the kid is such that he needs to be closer. Its absolutely a non issue for turf wickets,

The 1m half volley was clearly a reference to u12s not u10s, who will do 2 fifths of **** all to ruin a deck.

I must admit I am not shocked that ATCA's most conservative groundsman isn't a supporter of this.

[daysofourlives]

Days your arithmetic is not great. You must be a bowler.
20-16=4
4÷2=2
Danger area is approx. 1.5metres from the front line.
Or you bring the stumps forward at one end 4 metres.
Its a dumb idea. OK for hard wicket but not on turf.

You been smoking your grass clippings a little too much tigerpie?

At u10 level they will come in further to a 16m pitch or even more if the ability of the kid is such that he needs to be closer. Its absolutely a non issue for turf wickets,

The 1m half volley was clearly a reference to u12s not u10s, who will do 2 fifths of **** all to ruin a deck.

I must admit I am not shocked that ATCA's most conservative groundsman isn't a supporter of this.

Exactly its 2m for U12, 1m each end, 4m for u10 , 2m each end, not that hard to comprehend. Out of interest how many U10 games would be played on turf? At that age the bounce of a hard wicket would be more adavnatageous

[Lightning McQueen]

Exactly its 2m for U12, 1m each end, 4m for u10 , 2m each end, not that hard to comprehend. Out of interest how many U10 games would be played on turf? At that age the bounce of a hard wicket would be more adavnatageous

I thought they'd shorten the pitch and bowl all overs from the one end.

given that it's the ATCA, I'd think all of them would be on turf.

[daysofourlives]

Exactly its 2m for U12, 1m each end, 4m for u10 , 2m each end, not that hard to comprehend. Out of interest how many U10 games would be played on turf? At that age the bounce of a hard wicket would be more adavnatageous

I thought they'd shorten the pitch and bowl all overs from the one end.

given that it's the ATCA, I'd think all of them would be on turf.

That is an option but it would send guys like Tigerpie to the Looney bin. twice the traffic on one spot, god help us. 2 times **** all is still **** all

Unless all the Primary schools in the area have turf wickets it appears the U10 comp is all on hard wicket anyway.

[tigerpie]

Days your arithmetic is not great. You must be a bowler.
20-16=4
4÷2=2
Danger area is approx. 1.5metres from the front line.
Or you bring the stumps forward at one end 4 metres.
Its a dumb idea. OK for hard wicket but not on turf.

You been smoking your grass clippings a little too much tigerpie?

At u10 level they will come in further to a 16m pitch or even more if the ability of the kid is such that he needs to be closer. Its absolutely a non issue for turf wickets,

The 1m half volley was clearly a reference to u12s not u10s, who will do 2 fifths of **** all to ruin a deck.

I must admit I am not shocked that ATCA's most conservative groundsman isn't a supporter of this.

You been smoking your grass clippings a little too much tigerpie?
What an immature comment!

Conservative yes. Both our decks are up there with the best going around for that reason.
One of them is a private college so we have to be very conservative cause we don't own it!
I'm echoing the thoughts of other curators not just mine.
It will be a pain in the ass!

[daysofourlives]

Clearly not going to change your mind Tigerpie, what would i know

You may as well embrace it becuase its happening and it wont matter what you or any other curators have to say on the matter.

[heater31]

From an ATCA senior perspective its going to be a nightmare. Some umpires are unique individuals who are only going to be confused by extra lines. Heaven knows what is going to happen with self umpired games!

The GM is already getting muddled up regarding demands for fresh lines and cut/rolling decks for the junior finals.

[daysofourlives]

From an ATCA senior perspective its going to be a nightmare. Some umpires are unique individuals who are only going to be confused by extra lines. Heaven knows what is going to happen with self umpired games!

The GM is already getting muddled up regarding demands for fresh lines and cut/rolling decks for the junior finals.

To be honest they dont even really need lines at that age, couple dots either side the wicket like the danger zone would suffice. But as LM i think it was suggested, have them a different colour, have seen blue lines work

[The Hound]

Clearly not going to change your mind Tigerpie, what would i know

You may as well embrace it becuase its happening and it wont matter what you or any other curators have to say on the matter.

Is interesting conversation especially with clubs leasing off schools. Last week in Grade cricket kids played on a wet deck in the morning and the senior grade game in the afternoon got called off due to the divets along the pitch and chewed up bowling creases. Bad luck for the Grade club chasing an outright and can now only take first innings points.

I'm sure the schools curator would of had a word to the sporting coordinators due the damage to his pitch ,