Things that give you the sh1ts

[Lightning McQueen]

Here's another way to avoid getting caught.

Don't carry them Then you won't have anything to be paranoid about.

$15 standard drinks because the organisers hold the monopoly or $25 for some tablets that are going to give you an almighty buzz for the day.

Stereo's is aimed at the younger generation who have less money, I can see why they are popular.

[Footy Chick]

kids are stupid.

People who carry on about "people have been taking drugs for thousands of years"

Even 100 years ago, drugs were pure - now they're made in toilets out of bleach and god knows what else. Next time your kids go to a festival, sit them down and try and force some white king and oven cleaner down their throat - and when they almost kick the shit out of you for trying to poison them, remind them this is what they're essentially taking when they pop a pill. Not unlike anyone that had soap shoved in their mouth for answering back as a kid, or being made to smoke a pack of cigarettes after being caught.

Tough love.

*disclaimer - i'd probably never do this but it sounds good*

[norwood8]

Front page of the paper

'Heart felt pleas for loved ones as orginisers face growing heat'

Didn't realize orginisers of the festival forced 'Illegal' substances down you throat. News to the other 25,000 people that went there on the way in.

#lifechoicesstiffshitsuckedin

An acquaintance put up a facebook status that Police and sniffer dogs should be banned from festivals as this will stop overdosing. WTF? Where do people come up with this shit

Just ban police all together make all laws the 'Honor' system. We're spiraling out of control. Police get shot in the face and left to fend for themselves yet iced out f**king loser dead beat pieces of total shit scum deserve help cause there 'adicts' do gooding idiots that have no idea of the real world.

You people dead set need to step out in to the real world. And see what it's like. Sitting on a keyboard in an ivory Castle is far different from how the 'real world' lives.

I am in the real world. Zero tolerance policy isn't working and it's plainly ******* obvious.

Spot on Q. The US has a zero tolerance policy and it one of the worst systems in the western world. Some time ago, I basically did three years of papers at UNI on zero tolerance vs harm minimisation, zero tolerance nearly never wins.

The price at these events for alcohol is a genuine disgrace, who can afford to drink at those prices all day.

The problem lies in the current generation of 18-25 year olds where drug use is not frowned upon as it once was.

[RustyCage]

Front page of the paper

'Heart felt pleas for loved ones as orginisers face growing heat'

Didn't realize orginisers of the festival forced 'Illegal' substances down you throat. News to the other 25,000 people that went there on the way in.

#lifechoicesstiffshitsuckedin

An acquaintance put up a facebook status that Police and sniffer dogs should be banned from festivals as this will stop overdosing. WTF? Where do people come up with this shit

Because, in a roundabout way, they're right. Sniffer dogs only have about 40% success rate and their presence encourages people to swallow their entire personal stash to avoid getting caught.

Natural selection. If you are that big a moron that you do that, it's only a matter of time before you off yourself doing something stupid anyway

[jo172]

Bigger question is whether we should persist with recreational drugs being illegal.

There appears to be no compelling evidence that the mere fact of making them illegal is stopping people from using them. Rather it seems to encourage using them in the least safe manner possible.

Put it another way, tobacco is legal but I make a health choice not to smoke.

Given the inherent danger of criminal concocted drugs I think there are very compelling arguments in favour of full legalisation.

[Q.]

^^^exactly, with a few clicks of my mouse and I can have ANYTHING delivered to my letterbox.

The level of global connectivity is outpacing law enforcement.

[RustyCage]

Surely though a part of the harm mimimisation of making illicit drugs legal would be dealing with the increased numbers of people using those drugs. Yes the drug may be cleaner without the dodgy people making it so less people would die, but then you'd have a lot more people using the drug creating its own problems

[JK]

Surely though a part of the harm mimimisation of making illicit drugs legal would be dealing with the increased numbers of people using those drugs. Yes the drug may be cleaner without the dodgy people making it so less people would die, but then you'd have a lot more people using the drug creating its own problems

I reckon that's a fair point.

It's interesting though to look at Denver (I think) who recentlyish legalised Marijuana. Crime rates down and they are earning millions every month that are put toward schools or other areas that benefit large communities.

Understand the drugs we're discussing are different, but both can lead to psych health issues after prolonged use - The legalised route means the income stream is there to better deal with any health related issues and relieve the strain on budgeted health funds from existing revenue streams.

I don't have a stand either way .. I used to think very Black and White like Carey, but now I'm not so sure. There's arguments on both sides that seem reasonable.

[Q.]

Surely though a part of the harm mimimisation of making illicit drugs legal would be dealing with the increased numbers of people using those drugs. Yes the drug may be cleaner without the dodgy people making it so less people would die, but then you'd have a lot more people using the drug creating its own problems

Legalising drugs does not equate to increased uptake.

In fact, there are examples of decrease in drug use where it's been legalised.

[HH3]

Surely though a part of the harm mimimisation of making illicit drugs legal would be dealing with the increased numbers of people using those drugs. Yes the drug may be cleaner without the dodgy people making it so less people would die, but then you'd have a lot more people using the drug creating its own problems

Legalising drugs does not equate to increased uptake.

In fact, there are examples of decrease in drug use where it's been legalised.

Aren't most drugs legal in Portugal? And their drug intake went down since they came into effect?

[Pseudo]

Since the first batch of yeast and sugar turned water into wine people have experimented with mind altering substances and it wont ever be any different.

Nah, yeast and sugar turns grapes into wine. To do it with plain ol' water requires a filial relationship with the Creator.

Add flour and you get bread.

And if you then offer it to the Lord, through the miracle of transubstantiation it becomes His flesh!

[Pseudo]

Sniffer dogs only have about 40% success rate

Or is it that wrapping your stash in a franger and shoving it as far up your arse as you can poke your finger has only a 60% success rate?

[Pseudo]

Here's another way to avoid getting caught.

Don't carry them Then you won't have anything to be paranoid about.

Yeah, ingest them before you arrive at the rave.

[HH3]

I heard of a friend of a friends girlfriend vaginal shelving their groups whole stash before entering.

If the bag split she would of had a pretty bad time I reckon. Surely she double bagged* though.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Here's another way to avoid getting caught.

Don't carry them Then you won't have anything to be paranoid about.

$15 standard drinks because the organisers hold the monopoly or $25 for some tablets that are going to give you an almighty buzz for the day.

Stereo's is aimed at the younger generation who have less money, I can see why they are popular.

Bingo.

[daysofourlives]

Front page of the paper

'Heart felt pleas for loved ones as orginisers face growing heat'

Didn't realize orginisers of the festival forced 'Illegal' substances down you throat. News to the other 25,000 people that went there on the way in.

#lifechoicesstiffshitsuckedin

An acquaintance put up a facebook status that Police and sniffer dogs should be banned from festivals as this will stop overdosing. WTF? Where do people come up with this shit

Because, in a roundabout way, they're right. Sniffer dogs only have about 40% success rate and their presence encourages people to swallow their entire personal stash to avoid getting caught.

Yes I get the reasoning behind it. I think Carey has covered my thoughts on the issue quite well

[Q.]

Great article that dispels some misconceptions being posted here:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... MP=soc_567

[whufc]

The price of alcohol certainly make the use of drugs a lot more attractive

Personally I think we currently sit in an unhappy medium

We either need to accept that drugs are going to part of festivals and night clubs and make it as safe as possible for the users with such things as drug testing units inside venues

Or

We need to crack down 100% and make every festival or night club has some form of frisking, drug checking ability on entry and inside in the club

I definately don't have the answer but I think we need to decide our stance either way

Hope that makes sense

[shoe boy]

Kids are stupid ?
And SOME adults are ignorant .

[woodublieve12]

Kids are stupid ?
And SOME adults are ignorant .

So popping multiple pills are smart?

Mate if mines friends smashed nine of the same pills that bloke died from. Can't say he's a genius!