Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby stan » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:47 pm

Surprised Moore was back to be honest. I think the AFL side lacked hardness around the ball. Moore is a bif bodied midfielder.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Rising Power » Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:23 pm

Update after last night..

Eligible:
Butcher
Harvey
Howard
Byrne-Jones
Redden
Palmer
Frampton
Wagner
Logan
Russell
Amon
Moore

On the verge:
S. Gray 10-7 [has played at least 3 games since 30 June]
Mitchell 8-7 [has played at least 3 games since 30 June]
Ah Chee 8-8 [has played at least 3 games since 30 June]
Colquhoun 9-6 [2 games since 30 June]
Stewart 8-6 [2 games since 30 June]
Shaw 6-0 [1 game since 30 June]
Clurey 8-8 [1 game since 30 June]
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Panther Pack » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:58 am

Think its time the SANFL changed the rules and removed the experienced top up player from both the power reserves and crows reserves. ( Summerton and Callihan)

These reserves sides already too strong they dont need extra help.

Look what the Crows did to Sturt yesterday......
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Rising Power » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:54 am

Panther Pack wrote:Think its time the SANFL changed the rules and removed the experienced top up player from both the power reserves and crows reserves. ( Summerton and Callihan)

These reserves sides already too strong they dont need extra help.

Look what the Crows did to Sturt yesterday......


Pretty sure that rule was removed last year.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Rising Power » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:08 pm

Eligible:
Butcher
Harvey
Howard
Byrne-Jones
Redden
Palmer
Frampton
Wagner
Logan
Russell
Amon
Moore
Colquhoun
Stewart

On the verge:
S. Gray 10-8 [has played 3 games since 30 June]
Mitchell 8-8 [3]
Shaw 7-0 [2]
Clurey 9-8 [2]
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Jim05 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:39 pm

Should be 11 max in any game
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby RB » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:47 pm

Should be zero max. No AFL in the SANFL.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Reddeer » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:40 am

RB wrote:Should be zero max. No AFL in the SANFL.

Exactly
but when will the message sink in!!!!
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby holden78 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:19 am

Previously spoke to a SANFL club CEO ( not Eagles ) and his take on it was 15 AFL player limit per game!

When I mentioned no AFL finals just 18 games for them and their done he just smiled knowingly :roll:

Double points for a SANFL club winning against them is the way to fire things up though!
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Reddeer » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:42 am

holden78 wrote:Previously spoke to a SANFL club CEO ( not Eagles ) and his take on it was 15 AFL player limit per game!

When I mentioned no AFL finals just 18 games for them and their done he just smiled knowingly :roll:

[b]Double points for a SANFL club winning against them is the way to fire things up though!

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Would not be a fair deal if team comes up against them when they are injury riddled or full strength.
Only solution for me if they stay is they do not qualify for finals because when the time comes that they win it that is the END
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby The analyst » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:20 am

The amount of AFL listed players to take the field at anyone time should be capped.

Its a damning statistic exposing what happens when 13+ listed players take the field.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby SimonH » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:27 pm

Rising Power wrote:On the verge:
S. Gray 10-8 [has played 3 games since 30 June]

Sam Gray is both undroppable, and has already guaranteed himself at least another year on Port's AFL list, in his current form. So it will be interesting to see if he comes down with 'general soreness' for Port's meaningless last-round AFL match. Because, by not playing footy at all that weekend, he'd qualify for the (2nd and subsequent weeks of) SANFL finals (Port's SANFL QF final will be on the same weekend as the last round of AFL H&A). Play 2 more matches of AFL this year, and (as I understand the rules) he's disqualified. Howls of outrage that they're cynically playing the system, would never stop the Port Adelaide that I know.

On the other topic: with Sydney Swans reserves having played (and possibly still playing) with 'maximum listed players', 'maximum listed players on the field at one time' and similar rules in the Canberra comp (and many moons ago in the Sydney comp), I can safely say: you reckon the competition looks like a farce now. Better to grab the bull by the horns and throw them out, rather than say 'we'll still let Andre the Giant into the wrestling ring, but he has to have one hand tied behind his back and wear heavy sunglasses'. To mix metaphors horribly.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Rising Power » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:11 pm

SimonH wrote:
Rising Power wrote:On the verge:
S. Gray 10-8 [has played 3 games since 30 June]

Sam Gray is both undroppable, and has already guaranteed himself at least another year on Port's AFL list, in his current form. So it will be interesting to see if he comes down with 'general soreness' for Port's meaningless last-round AFL match. Because, by not playing footy at all that weekend, he'd qualify for the (2nd and subsequent weeks of) SANFL finals (Port's SANFL QF final will be on the same weekend as the last round of AFL H&A). Play 2 more matches of AFL this year, and (as I understand the rules) he's disqualified. Howls of outrage that they're cynically playing the system, would never stop the Port Adelaide that I know.


I think the club would want him playing out the season in the AFL. Every game he plays is like gold when coming down to list management decisions as well as building on his experience/development in general. He'd have to either have an absolute shocker and/or get injured to miss one or both of the remaining AFL matches. I can't see him playing finals.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby another grub » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:31 pm

S gray sont play sanfl again this season. I doubted his impact at afl level but seems to have stepped up the last month.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Panther Pack » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:58 pm

Rising Power wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:Think its time the SANFL changed the rules and removed the experienced top up player from both the power reserves and crows reserves. ( Summerton and Callihan)

These reserves sides already too strong they dont need extra help.

Look what the Crows did to Sturt yesterday......


Pretty sure that rule was removed last year.


So Summerton won't be playing for Magpies next year?
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Rising Power » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:32 pm

Panther Pack wrote:
Rising Power wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:Think its time the SANFL changed the rules and removed the experienced top up player from both the power reserves and crows reserves. ( Summerton and Callihan)

These reserves sides already too strong they dont need extra help.

Look what the Crows did to Sturt yesterday......


Pretty sure that rule was removed last year.


So Summerton won't be playing for Magpies next year?


From this media statement http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2651/

1. To be eligible for inclusion on the PAMFC or AFC Supplementary List, a person must be under the age of 23 before January 1 the year in which the player is included on the Supplementary List. A player may play as a top-up player past the age of 23 as long as he is first listed prior to the age of 23. Adelaide and Port Adelaide will be able to retain current contracted players already over the age of 23.

2. PAMFC & AFC cannot contract players for more than one year. This will not impact on current players contracted for more than one season.

3. Players included on the list of AFC or PAMFC cannot be recruited from outside of South Australia. This rule will not be retrospective, allowing those already contracted to Adelaide and Port to continue playing next year.

4. Remove the option for AFC to source top-up players from SANFL clubs. From 2015, Adelaide won’t include players from rival SANFL clubs, with all top-up players to be recruited from Community Football clubs.


My interpretation of this is that new recruits must be under 23, on a 1 year contract, but that contract can be renewed annually. I'm assuming the 28+ leadership player allowance is gone.

I would think that the likelihood of multiple players renewing annually for more than, say 3 years, is pretty low. They can only earn $400 per league game ($100 for Academy/reserves). The likes of Sawford, T. Gray, Masters, Sharrad, etc should have a few offers from other clubs on their respective tables at seasons end.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby another grub » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:41 pm

Who would want them?
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Rising Power » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:31 pm

another grub wrote:Who would want them?

Maybe clubs similar to those which gave Bruggemann, Haren, Johansen and Raikiwasa new homes at the end of last year.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Panther Pack » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:03 pm

Rising Power wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:
Rising Power wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:Think its time the SANFL changed the rules and removed the experienced top up player from both the power reserves and crows reserves. ( Summerton and Callihan)

These reserves sides already too strong they dont need extra help.

Look what the Crows did to Sturt yesterday......


Pretty sure that rule was removed last year.


So Summerton won't be playing for Magpies next year?


From this media statement http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2651/

1. To be eligible for inclusion on the PAMFC or AFC Supplementary List, a person must be under the age of 23 before January 1 the year in which the player is included on the Supplementary List. A player may play as a top-up player past the age of 23 as long as he is first listed prior to the age of 23. Adelaide and Port Adelaide will be able to retain current contracted players already over the age of 23.

2. PAMFC & AFC cannot contract players for more than one year. This will not impact on current players contracted for more than one season.

3. Players included on the list of AFC or PAMFC cannot be recruited from outside of South Australia. This rule will not be retrospective, allowing those already contracted to Adelaide and Port to continue playing next year.

4. Remove the option for AFC to source top-up players from SANFL clubs. From 2015, Adelaide won’t include players from rival SANFL clubs, with all top-up players to be recruited from Community Football clubs.


My interpretation of this is that new recruits must be under 23, on a 1 year contract, but that contract can be renewed annually. I'm assuming the 28+ leadership player allowance is gone.

I would think that the likelihood of multiple players renewing annually for more than, say 3 years, is pretty low. They can only earn $400 per league game ($100 for Academy/reserves). The likes of Sawford, T. Gray, Masters, Sharrad, etc should have a few offers from other clubs on their respective tables at seasons end.


So if Summerton started at Port before he was 23 he could continue to play for the Magpies on 1 year deals if im reading that corectly.
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Re: Power and Crows Players that have Qualified for Finals

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:32 am

I agree, thus he can.
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