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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 6:04 pm

Jim05 wrote:
another grub wrote:Collingwood could see mick was coming to the end of his tenure 7 or 8 years ago and were proven 100% CORRECT.

Pretty sure Mick could of achieved what Buckley has but who knows now


Or we could still have Didak and Thomas running around for us and be sitting bottom of the ladder.

FWIW, I applaud our list management and rebuild over the last four years. Yeah, we've got a young side, but it's something to build success on.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby marbles » Tue May 26, 2015 6:07 pm

Worsfold to me at the end of his west coast tenure look physically unwell, I'm not sure if he has a physical capacity to take on the role.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 6:08 pm

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another grub wrote:Collingwood could see mick was coming to the end of his tenure 7 or 8 years ago and were proven 100% CORRECT.


Given Collingwood's performance since 28/07/2009, when Malthouse was coach, proves that Collingwood and you were/are 100% WRONG!!!


H2H: Buckley 5, Malthouse 0.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Jim05 » Tue May 26, 2015 6:08 pm

Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
another grub wrote:Collingwood could see mick was coming to the end of his tenure 7 or 8 years ago and were proven 100% CORRECT.

Pretty sure Mick could of achieved what Buckley has but who knows now


Or we could still have Didak and Thomas running around for us and be sitting bottom of the ladder.

FWIW, I applaud our list management and rebuild over the last four years. Yeah, we've got a young side, but it's something to build success on.

Id still back those two over Armstrong and Karnezis lol
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 6:10 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
another grub wrote:Collingwood could see mick was coming to the end of his tenure 7 or 8 years ago and were proven 100% CORRECT.

Pretty sure Mick could of achieved what Buckley has but who knows now


Or we could still have Didak and Thomas running around for us and be sitting bottom of the ladder.

FWIW, I applaud our list management and rebuild over the last four years. Yeah, we've got a young side, but it's something to build success on.

Id still back those two over Armstrong and Karnezis lol


Didak out of the game for two years, would be better than those two combined.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Jim05 » Tue May 26, 2015 6:11 pm

Q. wrote:
am Bays wrote:
another grub wrote:Collingwood could see mick was coming to the end of his tenure 7 or 8 years ago and were proven 100% CORRECT.


Given Collingwood's performance since 28/07/2009, when Malthouse was coach, proves that Collingwood and you were/are 100% WRONG!!!


H2H: Buckley 5, Malthouse 0.

Put Buckley at Carlton and Mick at Collingwood and im sure that result would be reversed. Mick left Collingwood in a pretty decent shape. In hindsight Mick should of finished when he left Collingwood
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 6:15 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:
am Bays wrote:
another grub wrote:Collingwood could see mick was coming to the end of his tenure 7 or 8 years ago and were proven 100% CORRECT.


Given Collingwood's performance since 28/07/2009, when Malthouse was coach, proves that Collingwood and you were/are 100% WRONG!!!


H2H: Buckley 5, Malthouse 0.

Put Buckley at Carlton and Mick at Collingwood and im sure that result would be reversed. Mick left Collingwood in a pretty decent shape. In hindsight Mick should of finished when he left Collingwood


Maybe. We can only speculate. Ratten had Carlton in pretty good shape as well.

From my observations, Mick is using outdated tactics. The new breed has him covered and he hasn't bothered to adapt.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby am Bays » Tue May 26, 2015 6:16 pm

Q. wrote:You know that's not how it went. Mick wanted out due to personal issues, but then backed away from the arrangements made for him.



He didn't want out of senior coaching

He subsequently wanted to get out of his new "role"
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 6:19 pm

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Q. wrote:You know that's not how it went. Mick wanted out due to personal issues, but then backed away from the arrangements made for him.



He didn't want out of senior coaching

He subsequently wanted to get out of his new "role"


Actually, he did want to step aside from senior coaching, which is why the succession plan was put in place....then he changed his mind and was a dick about it.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue May 26, 2015 7:16 pm

Mick 3 flags
Buckley 0 and likely to be that way
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 8:12 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Mick 3 flags
Buckley 0 and likely to be that way

How long did it take him to get his first?
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby carey » Tue May 26, 2015 8:21 pm

I like the way everyone talks about Malthouse like they know him. None of us know the full story and probably never will, He has a great coaching record and he should be congratulated for that.

Carltons list is terrible, Put Clarkson or Lyon coaching that list it's the same result. But something had to give. Even just for the crowd numbers.

And in my opinion Buckley isn't even in the same sentence as Malthouse as a proven coach. He may end up somewhere close but right now no where near.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Jim05 » Tue May 26, 2015 8:45 pm

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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Mick 3 flags
Buckley 0 and likely to be that way

How long did it take him to get his first?

8, Buckley has 4 years to match it.
I think Mick holds the record for longest gap between 2nd and 3rd flag of 16 years, most coaches would of been sacked well before that
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby mal » Tue May 26, 2015 8:50 pm

Quiz time :
Who was the coach of the 2011 AFL Premiership team ?
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 8:50 pm

Jim05 wrote:
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Mick 3 flags
Buckley 0 and likely to be that way

How long did it take him to get his first?

8, Buckley has 4 years to match it.
I think Mick holds the record for longest gap between 2nd and 3rd flag of 16 years, most coaches would of been sacked well before that

Malthouse got a flag in his ninth year.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby carey » Tue May 26, 2015 8:53 pm

mal wrote:Quiz time :
Who was the coach of the 2011 AFL Premiership team ?



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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 8:58 pm

mal wrote:Quiz time :
Who was the coach of the 2011 AFL Premiership team ?

Dafuq does Chris Scott have to do with this?
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 26, 2015 9:40 pm

Q. wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Mick 3 flags
Buckley 0 and likely to be that way

How long did it take him to get his first?


Didn't take him long to get Footscray to third in 1985. The teams that finished ahead of them would flog today's leading sides IMO. Buckley still has a bloody long way to go to match Malthouse for mine.

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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Turbo » Tue May 26, 2015 9:51 pm

Can't see Buckley winning a flag to be honest


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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Q. » Tue May 26, 2015 9:54 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Q. wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Mick 3 flags
Buckley 0 and likely to be that way

How long did it take him to get his first?


Didn't take him long to get Footscray to third in 1985. The teams that finished ahead of them would flog today's leading sides IMO. Buckley still has a bloody long way to go to match Malthouse for mine.

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I don't think anyone is actually suggesting Bucks is comparable to any coaching legend at this point.
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