Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:08 pm

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In a wooden box


as long as they're breathing a box is fine.

We shouldn't be murdering rehabilitated humans, who have had 10 years under thier belt. Give them a chance to give back to the community.


We aren't, the country that has the death penalty for drug smugglers are.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby am Bays » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:15 pm

Booney wrote:You really have issues with letting your feelings be known, don't you? 8)


I'm in a good mood after footy on the weekend (read Fri night).....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:20 pm

am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:You really have issues with letting your feelings be known, don't you? 8)


I'm in a good mood after footy on the weekend (read Fri night).....


The lights go out and you get a draw, that's about as good as you can hope for! :lol:
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby am Bays » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:30 pm

Booney wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:You really have issues with letting your feelings be known, don't you? 8)


I'm in a good mood after footy on the weekend (read Fri night).....


The lights go out and you get a draw, that's about as good as you can hope for! :lol:


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Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:19 pm

am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:You really have issues with letting your feelings be known, don't you? 8)


I'm in a good mood after footy on the weekend (read Fri night).....


The lights go out and you get a draw, that's about as good as you can hope for! :lol:


Gefugged


See, I know you mean that. ;)
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby am Bays » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:29 pm

Booney wrote:
am Bays wrote:Gefugged


See, I know you mean that. ;)


Go and do what the Crows did today, take a long walk off a short Jetty....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:25 am

apparently another appeal will be heard on the 12th of may. However they still may get executed tonight. Which means if this appeal does find corruption was done in the trial (which it was) it's just bad luck... Joke of a system...
Them parading the coffins and crosses yesterday was a disgrace.
I don't condone these two actions, but the way this has been handled is a appalling.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:52 am

woodublieve12 wrote:apparently another appeal will be heard on the 12th of may. However they still may get executed tonight. Which means if this appeal does find corruption was done in the trial (which it was) it's just bad luck... Joke of a system...
Them parading the coffins and crosses yesterday was a disgrace.
I don't condone these two actions, but the way this has been handled is a appalling.

That's why we're the lucky country mate.

I may live a sheltered life as I refuse to watch the news and miss all of that type of sh!t, I'm glad that I do though.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby RustyCage » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:03 am

Only had 10 years to appeal the nature of the trial.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby cracka » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:21 am

All these celebrities bagging the PM for not doing enough & saying grow some balls, that's just as big a joke as this whole debacle. What, do they want us to declare war. While I am totally against the death penalty for these 2, its not Australias decision.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:23 am

Who's saying the PM's not doing enough?
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:34 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Who's saying the PM's not doing enough?

they.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Coach Bombay » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:47 am

So they did the wrong thing. Big deal. They are not murderers or pedaphiles.
They have tried to right their wrong, grow from it and use art as their healing. They deserve forgiveness.
The Bali government and the people who pull the trigger today are the criminals. So barbaric and horrific
The death penalty can never be excused as it allows a state a means by which it can pick and choose who is fit to live and who isnt
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:51 am

Coach Bombay wrote:So they did the wrong thing. Big deal. They are not murderers or pedaphiles.
They have tried to right their wrong, grow from it and use art as their healing. They deserve forgiveness.
The Bali government and the people who pull the trigger today are the criminals. So barbaric and horrific

It is, it's also enough of a deterrent to avoid the risk.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:52 am

Coach Bombay wrote:So they did the wrong thing. Big deal. They are not murderers or pedaphiles.
They have tried to right their wrong, grow from it and use art as their healing. They deserve forgiveness.
The Bali government and the people who pull the trigger today are the criminals. So barbaric and horrific

Thats their rules though. Everyone knows their system is corrupt, who are we to tell them what to do. Everyone has a choice on going there or not if you dont want to obey their rules dont go, pretty simple
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Q. » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:53 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Coach Bombay wrote:So they did the wrong thing. Big deal. They are not murderers or pedaphiles.
They have tried to right their wrong, grow from it and use art as their healing. They deserve forgiveness.
The Bali government and the people who pull the trigger today are the criminals. So barbaric and horrific

It is, it's also enough of a deterrent to avoid the risk.

Obviously not much of a deterrent if they are still having to execute people.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby cracka » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:56 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Who's saying the PM's not doing enough?

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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:00 am

Q. wrote:
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Coach Bombay wrote:So they did the wrong thing. Big deal. They are not murderers or pedaphiles.
They have tried to right their wrong, grow from it and use art as their healing. They deserve forgiveness.
The Bali government and the people who pull the trigger today are the criminals. So barbaric and horrific

It is, it's also enough of a deterrent to avoid the risk.

Obviously not much of a deterrent if they are still having to execute people.

It's enough for me to not traffic drugs in or out of there.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Q. » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:03 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Q. wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Coach Bombay wrote:So they did the wrong thing. Big deal. They are not murderers or pedaphiles.
They have tried to right their wrong, grow from it and use art as their healing. They deserve forgiveness.
The Bali government and the people who pull the trigger today are the criminals. So barbaric and horrific

It is, it's also enough of a deterrent to avoid the risk.

Obviously not much of a deterrent if they are still having to execute people.

It's enough for me to not traffic drugs in or out of there.

I doubt you'd do it even if the death penalty didn't exist.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Coach Bombay » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:38 pm

Just read this post from Ben Quilty.

Can't imagine what Ben is going through.

He always spoke so highly of the boys, inparticular Myu's artwork and the contribution that it brough in providing solace for other rehabilitated inmates.

Joko Widodo tonight you will kill two good men, my friends. I want you to know that you may take their freedom and their lives, you may rob their fellow inmates of the support and love that both men have offered for so long, you can turn off Myu’s imagination but you will never kill the memory of them. I have promised Myu and Andrew, their parents and their siblings, that I will fight against the death penalty for the rest of my life.
I can also assure you that Myu and Andrew will care for the other inmates you will execute tonight. The six men and one young woman from the Philippines, Ghana, Brazil and Nigeria will have two constant, calming and compassionate voices beside them right until the last second. Myuran will continue to translate your executioner’s words into English for Mary Jane Veloso and Andrew will calm and console. I know that before the sound of your guns the island will hear the comforting whisper of Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan.

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