Aus v Ind Test Series

[RustyCage]

[mal]

Nah, it's the pitch....

Robert Craddock
Monday, January 28, 2008 (3:52pm)

The Adelaide Test was one of the flattest in memory and it comes back to having a pitch which is too batsman friendly.
Curators have been chastised since cricket began for producing the occasional dodgy deck which favors bowlers.
As great a crime, in my book, is creating a wicket too far in favor of batsmen.
Let’s be frank. The Adelaide Test was hard work on all five days.
Shane Warne used to be the pin-up boy of modern Australian curators.
They could prepare a wicket which would be the batsman’s best friend, the Australians would make 450-500, the opposition would be flattened by Warne no matter what the condition of the deck and everyone would declare it “a great track with something for everyone.’’
But now that Warne is gone there was no-one to conjure a last day miracle which gives curators like Les Burdett the fifth day result they crave.
So the conditions are too far in favor of the batsman.
Adelaide has wrongly been portrayed as a spinners deck.
Warne rated it one of his least favorite Australian grounds and averaged around 30 runs per wicket there.
Hopefully next year it will have more in it for the bowlers.

The bolded section is something i really believe is very true

If Crash and the great Warne dont rate it thats good enough in my books.

Enuff is enuff

[The Dark Knight]

Indians bowling plans have again been terrible today, haven't backed up yesterdays pretty good performance with the ball. Gone overboard with the short stuff to Johnson again, needed to bowl a good length and outside off to him when he first come in and being a natural hitter forcing him to get bat on ball and causing him to make a mistake. Bowled too short and too straight at him getting him into his innings. 20 runs later they decide to bowl a good length outside off stump and now its too late, seeing it like a beachball.

[dedja]

FFS start up another whinge thread, or perhaps a faark everyone else, only my opinion matters thread

Back to the Test action, India are shambolic, Chappelli is spot on, Dhoni's not a captain's arsehole, and Steve Smith is a star.

[The Dark Knight]

And now he's out to the spinner lol

[whufc]

Smithy

Smacks another ton and cops one in the jatz crackers for his troubles.

What a fantastic calendar year!

Where does it sit in the 'greatest calender year ever' category.

From an Australian perspective- Pups year in 2012 (1600 runs IIRC) will amount as the greatest I have seen. Punter in 2005 smashed 6 tons on the way to 1500 odd runs looking at the numbers.

For the bowlers- Warne's effort in 2005- 96 wickets in 15 matches with 6 5 wicket hauls and 2 10 wicket hauls is incredible. His ashes series in England where he took 40 in a losing side was massive.

Agree,

With Smith his numbers may not match the others but this time last year he was arguably not a proven test cricketer and since then has won an ashes, won away to south africa and has become the test captain.

Massive Year.

[mal]

FFS start up another whinge thread, or perhaps a faark everyone else, only my opinion matters thread

Back to the Test action, India are shambolic, Chappelli is spot on, Dhoni's not a captain's arsehole, and Steve Smith is a star.

There was not a problem on this thread until you and ambays started posting

[valleys07]

Smithy

Smacks another ton and cops one in the jatz crackers for his troubles.

What a fantastic calendar year!

Where does it sit in the 'greatest calender year ever' category.

From an Australian perspective- Pups year in 2012 (1600 runs IIRC) will amount as the greatest I have seen. Punter in 2005 smashed 6 tons on the way to 1500 odd runs looking at the numbers.

For the bowlers- Warne's effort in 2005- 96 wickets in 15 matches with 6 5 wicket hauls and 2 10 wicket hauls is incredible. His ashes series in England where he took 40 in a losing side was massive.

Agree,

With Smith his numbers may not match the others but this time last year he was arguably not a proven test cricketer and since then has won an ashes, won away to south africa and has become the test captain.

Massive Year.

Yep good point.

As scary as the back end of Smith's year has been- given the fact that Australia's elite batsmen of the last 10-20 years in Punter have managed an extra 500 runs in a calendar year, Smith's game can still grow to a new level. Fingers crossed he can reach those heights!

[am Bays]

Nah, it's the pitch....

Robert Craddock
Monday, January 28, 2008 (3:52pm)

The Adelaide Test was one of the flattest in memory and it comes back to having a pitch which is too batsman friendly.
Curators have been chastised since cricket began for producing the occasional dodgy deck which favors bowlers.
As great a crime, in my book, is creating a wicket too far in favor of batsmen.
Let’s be frank. The Adelaide Test was hard work on all five days.
Shane Warne used to be the pin-up boy of modern Australian curators.
They could prepare a wicket which would be the batsman’s best friend, the Australians would make 450-500, the opposition would be flattened by Warne no matter what the condition of the deck and everyone would declare it “a great track with something for everyone.’’
But now that Warne is gone there was no-one to conjure a last day miracle which gives curators like Les Burdett the fifth day result they crave.
So the conditions are too far in favor of the batsman.
Adelaide has wrongly been portrayed as a spinners deck.
Warne rated it one of his least favorite Australian grounds and averaged around 30 runs per wicket there.
Hopefully next year it will have more in it for the bowlers.

The bolded section is something i really believe is very true

If Crash and the great Warne dont rate it thats good enough in my books.

In Crash's defence he did write that article five years earlier in anticipation of another Adelaide oval draw and he finally got his 2nd one since 1990-91 in 2007-08....

And for those playing at home not all required declarations

To get on track the first of the AO wins in that time period was a Late session 3 day five win against India in 1991-92

[am Bays]

FFS start up another whinge thread, or perhaps a faark everyone else, only my opinion matters thread

Back to the Test action, India are shambolic, Chappelli is spot on, Dhoni's not a captain's arsehole, and Steve Smith is a star.

There was not a problem on this thread until you and ambays had the temerity to question my opinion and post a counter view-point

Edited for accuracy

[mal]

This is test cricket

AO take a leaf out of this pitch

You do realise that the same technology and methodolgy is used in developing the AO drop ins as the MCG ones? In other words the MCG and Adelaide oval drop in are basically the same style of pitch.

This was your first post on this test match
A typical sarcastic annoying post . little respect for the WHUFC post

One thing to have opinions , but to later call that poster and myself nuffies is poor form

[mal]

FFS start up another whinge thread, or perhaps a faark everyone else, only my opinion matters thread

Back to the Test action, India are shambolic, Chappelli is spot on, Dhoni's not a captain's arsehole, and Steve Smith is a star.

There was not a problem on this thread until you and ambays had the temerity to question my opinion and post a counter view-point

Edited for accuracy

Bullshit EDITED FOR ACCURACY
You instigated all this by trying to be the smartarse you invariably are
I was 3rd in line then offered my opinion

By all means offer your 2 bobs worth
BUT
Stop fabricating , stop annoying people , stop being a smartarse

[mal]

This is test cricket

AO take a leaf out of this pitch

You do realise that the same technology and methodolgy is used in developing the AO drop ins as the MCG ones? In other words the MCG and Adelaide oval drop in are basically the same style of pitch.

If its the same style of pitch , please explain why AO + MCG play differently ?
What WHUFC says is that AO is too much in favor of the batsmen for 3 days
From what I am seeing today there's something in it for the bowlers today

JFTR
This was my 3rd in line reply
My opinion , nothing more nothing less

[bennymacca]

Mal give it a rest

[mal]

Mal give it a rest

Agree I should
You are right
Poor form by me as well
BUT
When a well know protagonist calls myself and another nuffies , its a bit hard to ignore

[bennymacca]

Shuddup ya nuffie

[RustyCage]

Play hasn't even started again after Lunch and Chapelli is already teeing off at MS Dhoni!

[mal]

AU 7/404
East Coast Blonde Don Smith 133*
Rhino 20*
India regularly keep playing 4 front line bowlers and keep regularly conceding BIG totals to Australia in Australia
Should they take a punt , play a 5th bowler, play Dhoni at 6 ?

Dunno who first posted Smith as the Blonde Don
Must admit I had thought of as jocular banter
But Im now beginning to believe this blonde don hype

[whufc]

AU 7/404
East Coast Blonde Don Smith 133*
Rhino 20*
India regularly keep playing 4 front line bowlers and keep regularly conceding BIG totals to Australia in Australia
Should they take a punt , play a 5th bowler, play Dhoni at 6 ?

Dunno who first posted Smith as the Blonde Don
Must admit I had thought of as jocular banter
But Im now beginning to believe this blonde don hype

I'll take credit for the blonde don

[valleys07]

Wonder if any Indian cricketers have paid a visit to the room of Will Denness in room 666

WTF does Dhoni wish to achieve with these field placings?