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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby stan » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:52 pm

Doolan would in at 6. Right now our batting is an issue and Im not sure who has the game to bat at 3 against these guys. But as I said its a time for senior guys like Watson in the top order. It maybe tough but I reckon our batting is key to the series, bat well and we'll take these guys. I believe our bowlers can get the job done. Just need some runs.

**** we want to be no.1 well it starts with these pricks.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby Panther Pack » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:39 pm

Reckon Doolan will bat at 3. Have a feeling Boof wants to get more bowling out of Watto so will move him down to 6 to do this. No issue with Doolan coming in at 3 prefer him over Marsh any day of the week!!!!!
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby beeroclock » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:05 pm

bennymacca wrote:35-50 is a pass for any batsmen in the world against the saffers on their decks

Such low standards you guys set.
No.3 is meant to be your game breaker or winner.
No way will Watson ave between 35-50,will be lucky to hit 20-25 at No.3.
I can't work out why there is such confusion on this guy as a top order test batsman.
He ain't up to it against quality opposition ffs.
Then again I don't think he's the best batsman at No.6 either.
The old saying is, would I like to go to war with the bloke.
Maybe bat 3 or maybe be at 6,bowls a bit though,could break down too.
Bla bla bla.
Henriques to send him packing eventually.
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Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discussion

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:30 pm

beeroclock wrote:Such low standards you guys set.
No.3 is meant to be your game breaker or winner.


So against South Africa an average of 40 would be a fail?
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby beeroclock » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:54 pm

bennymacca wrote:
beeroclock wrote:Such low standards you guys set.
No.3 is meant to be your game breaker or winner.


So against South Africa an average of 40 would be a fail?

For Watson it would be outstanding.
It ain't gunna happen Benny.
It's comical he bats 3.
If he didn't bowl he'd be gone.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:04 pm

sorry mate, you need to work on your comprehension skills.

i have actually advocated him moving down the order because i dont think he is good enough for top 3, but i think he can be destructive at number 6. i am on your side!
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby beeroclock » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:40 pm

bennymacca wrote:sorry mate, you need to work on your comprehension skills.

i have actually advocated him moving down the order because i dont think he is good enough for top 3, but i think he can be destructive at number 6. i am on your side!

Sorry mate.
Whufc and Mal are the delusional ones.
My apologies.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:06 pm

beeroclock wrote:
bennymacca wrote:sorry mate, you need to work on your comprehension skills.

i have actually advocated him moving down the order because i dont think he is good enough for top 3, but i think he can be destructive at number 6. i am on your side!

Sorry mate.
Whufc and Mal are the delusional ones.
My apologies.


What I was actually saying he should move down the order and even states why I don't think his a number 3
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:08 pm

yeah i think we are all arguing the same side of the coin here. except that the move might not happen at this series, but should happen in future ones
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby robranisgod » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:11 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
Gozu wrote:
bennymacca wrote:enriques is only 26, (turns 27 in a few days) and averages 32 with the bat and 28 with the ball at shield level. only had 6 tests too, so i dont think it is a tried and failed proposition.

happy for him to go, faulkner has jumped ahead of him, that is the only reason he isnt playing more international cricket right now.

people seem to forget that almost all youngsters are dropped at one point in their career.

hayden
langer
clarke
steve waugh
brett lee

could have easily been warne too


and Ponting.


Also one of my favourites to watch at full flight Damien Martyn


And from a bit further back, Bobby Simpson, Ian Chappell, Ian Redpath (a number of times) and Keith Stackpole were all dropped as youngsters and came back to be excellent test players.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby rod_rooster » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:25 pm

bennymacca wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:How many chances has Phil Hughes had to secure his spot in the Australian team????


Who else would you take?

Give me a single player that is still playing shield that has a better record than him?


The thing people need to remember is that each time he has been dropped he goes back and makes a truckload of runs to earn a recall. He earns his spot as opposed to guys like Marsh, Bailey and others who get picked despite their best first class seasons not even being close to other blokes' worst seasons.

By no means am I saying Hughes is a walk up start or that he has made a success of his Test career but at least when he does get picked it's based on merit and not because their Dad once played at a time when we were desperate enough to carry a cricketer that ordinary.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:31 pm

rod_rooster wrote:The thing people need to remember is that each time he has been dropped he goes back and makes a truckload of runs to earn a recall. He earns his spot as opposed to guys like Marsh, Bailey and others who get picked despite their best first class seasons not even being close to other blokes' worst seasons.

By no means am I saying Hughes is a walk up start or that he has made a success of his Test career but at least when he does get picked it's based on merit and not because their Dad once played at a time when we were desperate enough to carry a cricketer that ordinary.


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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby mal » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:55 pm

Whats wronggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg with :
Shane Watson who averages 42 + batting top 3
And has averaged about 42 in his last 10 matches in the number 3 spot
Is also a 5th bowler
Every nation in the world would love a player like Watson

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THERE IS NO ONE BETTER THAN WATSON TO BAT AT 3 THIS SERIES AGAINST SOUTH AFRICA
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The exception , batting 3 would be Michael Clarke , but he refrains from batting that high

The only batsman left behind in Domestic cricket for a top 3 spot is Jordan Silk
The selectors have rightly left him behind
If he finishes off the rest of the SS season well, he is the next Australian batsman in line
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby mal » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:19 am

beeroclock wrote:
bennymacca wrote:sorry mate, you need to work on your comprehension skills.

i have actually advocated him moving down the order because i dont think he is good enough for top 3, but i think he can be destructive at number 6. i am on your side!

Sorry mate.
Whufc and Mal are the delusional ones.
My apologies.


Beats me why you call WHUFC delusional , he is an advocate of Watto batting down the order


Anyway , this might clear things up
Who is the answer at 3 ????????????
When you name me a better number 3 than Watson [Clarke the exception] than call me dilusional
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby Panther Pack » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:15 am

I suspect Watto will be moved to 6 more because Boof will want him to bowl more overs not because of his batting average.

Australia would be expecting to spend more time in the field than they did against England and given Rhino cannot be exposed to a massive workload Watto as the 5th bowling option will need to bowl more overs and by batting him at 6 give him a rest between innings.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby tigerpie » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:48 pm

It doesnt matter where he bats.
Making a hundred, which a top 6 bat should do, is just taxing no matter where you bat in the top 6. Maybe more so at 6 because you are batting with the tail and score a lot of singles.
So i dont get the argument for him batting at 6 so he can bowl more overs, unless he cracks a hundred of 65 balls. and the rest of the blokes bat for a hundred+ overs.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby whufc » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:52 pm

tigerpie wrote:It doesnt matter where he bats.
Making a hundred, which a top 6 bat should do, is just taxing no matter where you bat in the top 6. Maybe more so at 6 because you are batting with the tail and score a lot of singles.
So i dont get the argument for him batting at 6 so he can bowl more overs, unless he cracks a hundred of 65 balls. and the rest of the blokes bat for a hundred+ overs.


I thinks it's the other way

If he bowlers more overs and his out in the field for a day and half does he have the fitness and body to possibly be back out there in the first over and expected to bat for hours.
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby tigerpie » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:14 pm

Fair point.

But if he isnt fit enough to do that then he doesnt get a game in my team.

Simplzzz ;)
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby bennymacca » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:34 pm

tigerpie wrote:Fair point.

But if he isnt fit enough to do that then he doesnt get a game in my team.

Simplzzz ;)


so how many other world cricketers bat in the top 3 and bowl 10+ overs an innings?
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Re: Test Squad for South African Tour - predictions & discus

Postby whufc » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:42 pm

tigerpie wrote:Fair point.

But if he isnt fit enough to do that then he doesnt get a game in my team.

Simplzzz ;)


Yeah his fitness is a massive issue.

Not that it's huge but we have to use up a spot on our tour just to cover for if he gets injured.

Anywheres here to him smashing the saffers and making alot of us look silly
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