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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby RooShootOhh » Thu May 30, 2013 3:34 pm

BEEGRADER wrote:Never considered him to be a great player but if Shaun Baker wins his 3rd medal this year where would this place him as the best to have ever played in the BL&G?

Pinchy, This was the question that was pondered to the community... Would Baker be considered THE BEST EVER.

At no point did I put him down, nor did I question his ability, if you read it carefully, twice I mentioned his ability and talent. Nor did I mention whther or not he is or isn't a decent lad, I bet his is to those who know him.

This wasn't a direct response to Baker himself, merely the question that was asked in his context, my response purely gave several lines of thinking as to why there may have been better footballers seen in the BLG.

And just because he may not rate as the BEST EVER in my eyes, certainly doesn't mean I think he is no good and don't rate him at all.

My clearest point on the question posed is simply this... I don't think Mail Medals should be the absolute measure of someones ability or measure of their greatness (whether we are talking Baker or anyone for that matter in the BLG OR Brownlows etc for other leagues). Lets not forget that the people who cast votes on Mail Medals are the same blokes we all think did a pathetic job against our team on the weekend yet we hold their 3-2-1's in the highest honour at the end of the year, always found that a little funny!
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby roodog » Thu May 30, 2013 6:26 pm

RooShootOhh wrote:
BEEGRADER wrote:Never considered him to be a great player but if Shaun Baker wins his 3rd medal this year where would this place him as the best to have ever played in the BL&G?

Pinchy, This was the question that was pondered to the community... Would Baker be considered THE BEST EVER.

At no point did I put him down, nor did I question his ability, if you read it carefully, twice I mentioned his ability and talent. Nor did I mention whther or not he is or isn't a decent lad, I bet his is to those who know him.

This wasn't a direct response to Baker himself, merely the question that was asked in his context, my response purely gave several lines of thinking as to why there may have been better footballers seen in the BLG.

And just because he may not rate as the BEST EVER in my eyes, certainly doesn't mean I think he is no good and don't rate him at all.

My clearest point on the question posed is simply this... I don't think Mail Medals should be the absolute measure of someones ability or measure of their greatness (whether we are talking Baker or anyone for that matter in the BLG OR Brownlows etc for other leagues). Lets not forget that the people who cast votes on Mail Medals are the same blokes we all think did a pathetic job against our team on the weekend yet we hold their 3-2-1's in the highest honour at the end of the year, always found that a little funny!

Well said again RooShoot!
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby redwhiteandblueblooded » Thu May 30, 2013 7:09 pm

Gawler Central have signed Waylon Johncock from the Port Lincon league. Not sure if the clearance will be finalized ready for this weekend or not.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Pinch Hitter » Thu May 30, 2013 9:14 pm

RooShootOhh wrote:
BEEGRADER wrote:Never considered him to be a great player but if Shaun Baker wins his 3rd medal this year where would this place him as the best to have ever played in the BL&G?

Pinchy, This was the question that was pondered to the community... Would Baker be considered THE BEST EVER.

At no point did I put him down, nor did I question his ability, if you read it carefully, twice I mentioned his ability and talent. Nor did I mention whther or not he is or isn't a decent lad, I bet his is to those who know him.

This wasn't a direct response to Baker himself, merely the question that was asked in his context, my response purely gave several lines of thinking as to why there may have been better footballers seen in the BLG.

And just because he may not rate as the BEST EVER in my eyes, certainly doesn't mean I think he is no good and don't rate him at all.

My clearest point on the question posed is simply this... I don't think Mail Medals should be the absolute measure of someones ability or measure of their greatness (whether we are talking Baker or anyone for that matter in the BLG OR Brownlows etc for other leagues). Lets not forget that the people who cast votes on Mail Medals are the same blokes we all think did a pathetic job against our team on the weekend yet we hold their 3-2-1's in the highest honour at the end of the year, always found that a little funny!


thanks for clearing that up :roll:

Your naive to suggest the mail medal isn't the absolute measure of the best and fairest in the competition, the umpires might throw up a few interesting interpretations at times, but for a player to win it multiple times speaks for itself.

The greatest ever is either Eddie Schwerdt or Mark Pittman 3 medals and flags needed to join this club.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby the star » Thu May 30, 2013 9:18 pm

redwhiteandblueblooded wrote:Gawler Central have signed Waylon Johncock from the Port Lincon league. Not sure if the clearance will be finalized ready for this weekend or not.


Every chance it won't be!
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby old moz » Fri May 31, 2013 10:05 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Was only really a good game in the last term.
Willaston could have done better earlier to benefit from its early control. Some easy misses.
I reckon too many big fellas in the forward 50 early and definitely not enough crumbers around the fall of the ball throughout the match.
How Centrals got the win, I don't know. They just seemed to will themselves there.
Baker BOG by a long way, for mine - his goal late was an absolute ripper.

Is it true Willo's B grade skipper sat on the bench for the A grade all the way through? Some very disappointed Donnies supporters discussing that after the game.

The early game saw Centrals absolutely blitz the Donnies. Looked well drilled for a seconds outfit.


thought that #23 for the home team was very good value over 4 qtrs didnt do much wrong and did a lot of things right
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby NO-MERCY » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:06 am

the star wrote:
redwhiteandblueblooded wrote:Gawler Central have signed Waylon Johncock from the Port Lincon league. Not sure if the clearance will be finalized ready for this weekend or not.


Every chance it won't be!


Be careful he's known to go walkabouts.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Lethal Dose » Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:51 am

RooShootOhh wrote:With all due respect to Baker, being a really good player in a really average side for most of his career has made him a standout for Willaston when it comes to the men in white (Walton also won one for a Willaston side that finished last that year). I am not saying his medals are not deserved, as you still have to play well, but for every Mail medalist you can think of 3-4 blokes who were just as good if not better that have never won one.

Good sides have multiple good players that steal votes of each other
Some good players come close to winning them even though they miss parts of the season through injury
Some forwards don't seem to get the recognition of their deeds compared to midfielders.

Credit to Baker though, clearly leading the Donnybrooks rise back up the ladder.

Clearly Mail Medals are a measure of ability, but to say he becomes the best to have ever played in the league because of it is going a bit to far I think.

Did Leigh Matthews or Wayne Carey win 3 brownlows each?
I know they won lots of premierships, maybe thats a better indication, great players in successful teams?



Think you will find that Sam Walton took out the schluter medal when the donnie's made the grand final 2011, and if Shaun does take out a 3rd medal then he has to be up there with the best, Bobby skilton never played in a champion team but was a champion player. To win it 3 times is a huge effort in my eyes.

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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby BoundaryRider84 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:23 pm

Freeling by around 7 goals over Angaston in the battle for the wooden spoon!
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby skipper » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:14 pm

Osama wrote:Tanunda gone and probably struggle to play in September.


Oh Osama, if Tanunda are gone what about poor old Ango?
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Osama » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:02 am

skipper wrote:
Osama wrote:Tanunda gone and probably struggle to play in September.


Oh Osama, if Tanunda are gone what about poor old Ango?

No surprises from the panthers and as expected are planning for the long journey. Coach Hermann will need to put them up on blocks for a mid year service.
On the other hand the fall from grace for your second side continues. The Donnys and Gawler Tigers will invade Blockvile and bring down the statue of Big Carl, just like the yanks did to Saddam.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby stealthbomber » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:05 pm

Are injuries playing a part in Tanundas demise? or Has the coin dried up? Have the movers and shakers who bankrolled Tanunda's dominance slipped off into the sunset? What will be the reaction in the main street of Tanunda to this fall from grace of the once Mighty Magpies.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Swooper » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:20 pm

stealthbomber wrote:Are injuries playing a part in Tanundas demise? or Has the coin dried up? Have the movers and shakers who bankrolled Tanunda's dominance slipped off into the sunset? What will be the reaction in the main street of Tanunda to this fall from grace of the once Mighty Magpies.


Yes coin is the big problem, our best player has been poached for big bucks by Albury. Stealth the money thing has been greatly exagerated for a long time by all the highly jealous critics. The fact is we always had a period coming of excellant local tallent and some good imports where brought in around them. It has been an incredibly well run club which has made some of the other clubs very jealous. Injuries are a massive part at the moment, we had 11 out last weekend but no excuses we have payed the 3 top sides in the last 3 weeks and lets just see what will happen at the end of the season.

Tanunda will go down as one of the great country sides over the past decade and all the critics can get stuffed and wallow in their own failures.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby SUNS » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:39 am

Swooper wrote:
stealthbomber wrote:Are injuries playing a part in Tanundas demise? or Has the coin dried up? Have the movers and shakers who bankrolled Tanunda's dominance slipped off into the sunset? What will be the reaction in the main street of Tanunda to this fall from grace of the once Mighty Magpies.


Yes coin is the big problem, our best player has been poached for big bucks by Albury. Stealth the money thing has been greatly exagerated for a long time by all the highly jealous critics. The fact is we always had a period coming of excellant local tallent and some good imports where brought in around them. It has been an incredibly well run club which has made some of the other clubs very jealous. Injuries are a massive part at the moment, we had 11 out last weekend but no excuses we have payed the 3 top sides in the last 3 weeks and lets just see what will happen at the end of the season.

Tanunda will go down as one of the great country sides over the past decade and all the critics can get stuffed and wallow in their own failures.


Looking through the team Tanunda have been putting on the park this season at a guess i would say its the youngest team they have had for quite a few years. With the experience the youngsters are getting at senior level surely that bodes well for the team in the future.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Swooper » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:02 pm

SUNS wrote:
Swooper wrote:
stealthbomber wrote:Are injuries playing a part in Tanundas demise? or Has the coin dried up? Have the movers and shakers who bankrolled Tanunda's dominance slipped off into the sunset? What will be the reaction in the main street of Tanunda to this fall from grace of the once Mighty Magpies.


Yes coin is the big problem, our best player has been poached for big bucks by Albury. Stealth the money thing has been greatly exagerated for a long time by all the highly jealous critics. The fact is we always had a period coming of excellant local tallent and some good imports where brought in around them. It has been an incredibly well run club which has made some of the other clubs very jealous. Injuries are a massive part at the moment, we had 11 out last weekend but no excuses we have payed the 3 top sides in the last 3 weeks and lets just see what will happen at the end of the season.

Tanunda will go down as one of the great country sides over the past decade and all the critics can get stuffed and wallow in their own failures.


Looking through the team Tanunda have been putting on the park this season at a guess i would say its the youngest team they have had for quite a few years. With the experience the youngsters are getting at senior level surely that bodes well for the team in the future.


Exactly, fact is we can't win every season but we get back some big names we will have a crack at that 4th spot.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Red Rocket » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:11 pm

All dynasties come to end and a fantastic dynasty it has been.
Reckon the top 3 is a formality with Tanunda, South and ourselves trying to nick 4th.
Reckon it will be a tight battle right to the last round.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Mayor Quimby » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:36 pm

Has that Willaston goal umpire been sacked and banned yet? Couple of dubious decisions on the weekend vs South with one of them in crunch time when south were 9 pts down. And it was a goal. A CLEAR GOAL.

Now all you who read this and go "..yeah but goal umpires sometimes get it wrong, they arent professionals etc. etc...." slap yourselves. This was straight through the middle and he knew it.

In saying that, it was an entertaing game to watch.


Also, any news on the Willaston under 17's player that jumped the fence and "allegedly" struck one of Souths's players? Surely this absolutley disgraceful, cowardly and gutless act is being investigated by the higher ups. Should be a ban for the season atleast if you ask me.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby roodog » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:19 pm

Sounds like some work for the executive this week. Are you saying that a player not involved in the game in progress, allegedly jumped the fence to strike a player on the ground Quimby?
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby jstlookin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:17 pm

Mayor Quimby wrote:Has that Willaston goal umpire been sacked and banned yet? Couple of dubious decisions on the weekend vs South with one of them in crunch time when south were 9 pts down. And it was a goal. A CLEAR GOAL.

Now all you who read this and go "..yeah but goal umpires sometimes get it wrong, they arent professionals etc. etc...." slap yourselves. This was straight through the middle and he knew it.

In saying that, it was an entertaing game to watch.


Also, any news on the Willaston under 17's player that jumped the fence and "allegedly" struck one of Souths's players? Surely this absolutley disgraceful, cowardly and gutless act is being investigated by the higher ups. Should be a ban for the season atleast if you ask me.


Went and watched this game and what an absolute discrace that decision was. Clearly a goal even the willaston players that all started to run back to the centre must have thought the same thing. Also heard that the same umpire paid a goal to willastons full forward afta a ball that trickled of his thight went through.
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Re: BL&G Football League

Postby Mayor Quimby » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:42 pm

roodog wrote:Sounds like some work for the executive this week. Are you saying that a player not involved in the game in progress, allegedly jumped the fence to strike a player on the ground Quimby?


Correct. A member of the team that was not playing on that day.
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