SAAFL Division 5 & D5R (2012)

[woodublieve12]

and then this comes into effect

A registered player of a Club of an Affiliated League who has played a total of 25 or more games in the Senior (A grade) Team or Reserves (B grade) Team or Junior Football with that Club, who has transferred to a Club of another League within Australia and returns to his original Club will have a Player Points Rating of zero (0).

awesome, so when Bryce Gibbs comes back to Plympton he'll be zero points

He will be 40 years old though.....

i reckon he mite be able to get a kick still (i hope)

[Executive Member]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

interesting to see clause 1.5 that a life members son can be registered as zero points.
different clubs have different criteria on becoming a life member - games played, consecutive service etc.
so if a player has played his junior footy with a club, apart from his dads, can go to his dads club for zero points.
i have heard whispers of certain clubs giving fathers / parents life memberships to attract players for zero points.

whave heard something similar and I would imagine the penalty would be very high for a club trying to pull that one off

[DKL]

So with the 2012 Season just around the corner & kicking off soon who have your clubs got trial games against & when?

Fitzroy are have our trial games against the following

Fri 16/03 :
vs Rosewater (Fitzroy)

Sat 24/03 :
vs Blackfriars (Fitzroy)

Sat 31/03
vs Western Districts (KI)

Why are 2 teams who are playing against each other this season playing each other in a trial game? Ok the teams line ups will be different by the time they play during the year but still, Doesn't make sense to me.

[Farbs]

So with the 2012 Season just around the corner & kicking off soon who have your clubs got trial games against & when?

Fitzroy are have our trial games against the following

Fri 16/03 :
vs Rosewater (Fitzroy)

Sat 24/03 :
vs Blackfriars (Fitzroy)

Sat 31/03
vs Western Districts (KI)

Why are 2 teams who are playing against each other this season playing each other in a trial game? Ok the teams line ups will be different by the time they play during the year but still, Doesn't make sense to me.

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

[One Eyed]

Ah trial games.........Quite scary how close the season is

[Lightning McQueen]

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

I wouldn't, trials are to "trial" game plans etc. As a coach you are far more prepared for the opposition in the back 9 matches as you know who to match up on.

[zedman]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

interesting to see clause 1.5 that a life members son can be registered as zero points.
different clubs have different criteria on becoming a life member - games played, consecutive service etc.
so if a player has played his junior footy with a club, apart from his dads, can go to his dads club for zero points.
i have heard whispers of certain clubs giving fathers / parents life memberships to attract players for zero points.

i was just going to post that..clubs all have different criteria for life members hmmm..

[The Bartman]

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

I wouldn't, trials are to "trial" game plans etc. As a coach you are far more prepared for the opposition in the back 9 matches as you know who to match up on.

If its okay for AFL and SANFL to play each other in trials I really can't see a problem with it!

[Executive Member]

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

I wouldn't, trials are to "trial" game plans etc. As a coach you are far more prepared for the opposition in the back 9 matches as you know who to match up on.

If its okay for AFL and SANFL to play each other in trials I really can't see a problem with it!

where have you been hiding

[Boosh]

Zedman - I haven't got the APPS rules in front of me but they have a criteria that the Father must meet and I htink it's only about 100 games or 5 years as an unpaid volunteer

Don't quote on the figures but it is somehting along those lines

[Boosh]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

interesting to see clause 1.5 that a life members son can be registered as zero points.
different clubs have different criteria on becoming a life member - games played, consecutive service etc.
so if a player has played his junior footy with a club, apart from his dads, can go to his dads club for zero points.
i have heard whispers of certain clubs giving fathers / parents life memberships to attract players for zero points.

whave heard something similar and I would imagine the penalty would be very high for a club trying to pull that one off

We would have about 100 Life Members all thier names are in the club room honour board I would assume every other club would have the same

[Executive Member]

Zedman - I haven't got the APPS rules in front of me but they have a criteria that the Father must meet and I htink it's only about 100 games or 5 years as an unpaid volunteer

Don't quote on the figures but it is somehting along those lines

13 APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM
13.1 Member Clubs shall comply with the approved player points system (APPS) rules and
conditions as specified in the SACFL Regulations, in particular Clause 32
13.2 The proposed Player Points System shall be in accordance with the Guidelines set out in
Appendix 4 of the SACFL Regulations.
13.3 A Member Club must not field a Senior (A grade) team in any official match of The League
where the total allocated player points exceed that Member Club’s Total Points Rating.
13.4 A player of a Member Club must, before playing a match for a Member Club, complete
and lodge with the Member Club and The League a player declaration form.
13.5 For the purpose of the SACFL’s Appendix 4 Clause 1.5 ruling regarding the child of a Club
Life Member, The League’s interpretation of a Life Member of a Member Club is a person
who played a minimum of 100 senior matches for the same Member Club or has given five
years unpaid off field service to the same Member Club.

[The Bartman]

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

I wouldn't, trials are to "trial" game plans etc. As a coach you are far more prepared for the opposition in the back 9 matches as you know who to match up on.

If its okay for AFL and SANFL to play each other in trials I really can't see a problem with it!

where have you been hiding

Well i'd love to sit on the forum all day EM but some of us have work to do!! You will probably be getting hassled by an annoying salesman fairly soon I imagine!

[Lightning McQueen]

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

I wouldn't, trials are to "trial" game plans etc. As a coach you are far more prepared for the opposition in the back 9 matches as you know who to match up on.

If its okay for AFL and SANFL to play each other in trials I really can't see a problem with it!

Well they hardly have the opportunity for new players or game plans to go under the radar.

[The Bartman]

Why not? A trial is just a hit out to get ready for the season - as you said teams will be different so its not like either one of the teams will get a true indication on tactics form etc - genereally a good chance to get some fitness and have a look at a few blokes. I don't think it matters really if you play a team in a higher, same, or below div really.

I wouldn't, trials are to "trial" game plans etc. As a coach you are far more prepared for the opposition in the back 9 matches as you know who to match up on.

If its okay for AFL and SANFL to play each other in trials I really can't see a problem with it!

Well they hardly have the opportunity for new players or game plans to go under the radar.

Nor should div 5 sides if the coach does their home work properly!

[Boosh]

Zedman - I haven't got the APPS rules in front of me but they have a criteria that the Father must meet and I htink it's only about 100 games or 5 years as an unpaid volunteer

Don't quote on the figures but it is somehting along those lines

13 APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM
13.1 Member Clubs shall comply with the approved player points system (APPS) rules and
conditions as specified in the SACFL Regulations, in particular Clause 32
13.2 The proposed Player Points System shall be in accordance with the Guidelines set out in
Appendix 4 of the SACFL Regulations.
13.3 A Member Club must not field a Senior (A grade) team in any official match of The League
where the total allocated player points exceed that Member Club’s Total Points Rating.
13.4 A player of a Member Club must, before playing a match for a Member Club, complete
and lodge with the Member Club and The League a player declaration form.
13.5 For the purpose of the SACFL’s Appendix 4 Clause 1.5 ruling regarding the child of a Club
Life Member, The League’s interpretation of a Life Member of a Member Club is a person
who played a minimum of 100 senior matches for the same Member Club or has given five
years unpaid off field service to the same Member Club.

I was pretty close there, and you guys think we can't read down here. I will have you know that nearly half of us can.

I reckon it would be pretty hard to bend the rules on the playing side but the unpaid service is very ambigious.

[zedman]

ambiguous indeed

[Pag]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

interesting to see clause 1.5 that a life members son can be registered as zero points.
different clubs have different criteria on becoming a life member - games played, consecutive service etc.
so if a player has played his junior footy with a club, apart from his dads, can go to his dads club for zero points.
i have heard whispers of certain clubs giving fathers / parents life memberships to attract players for zero points.

I've also heard of a certain club doing this as they'll be borderline/over their points allocation, surely a life membership is something that should be sacred at a footy club and not devalued in this manner. Each club has their own priorities I guess.

[One Eyed]

Noooooooo pag. That would never happen

[rodney fox]

As at 8/3/12

I see kenilworth have picked up Dustin Georgeson. He trained with us for 2wks, couldn't handle the hard work so I guess he went the easy option of div 5 footy

Your such an idiot. Tried to be upfront and explain my situation and do the right thing for my family as a club with 2 kids my kids age Vs a club with 30 kids my kids age i did the right thing and am really enjoying kenilworth. Nothing to do with hard work, you have my number text me if you want to be a hero not sling crap on a forum you pussy.