Things that give you the sh1ts

[Kahuna]

Why the staunch defense of Telstra??

Well firstly,some on here will know I work for them and I usually disclose that whenever I comment on one of these threads. Also point out that my views are my views and not the company's.
Whether that leaves me with any credibility to defend them without calls of bias I will leave up to you.
Not so much a staunch defense as getting pissed off that people unload on Telstra without telling the full story.

I suppose it was this from Dedja that got me going --"No matter, I'm only 9kms from the nearest exchange which is monopolised by Tel$tra and the bastards won't let the other ISPs in."
The exchange is not monopolised by Telstra (note spelling Dedja ) plenty of other ISPs have their own gear in there,some others use Telstra gear wholesale and others will use another providers equipment wholesale.Other companies even have a backhaul presence.

In a subsequent post he says he is on a RIM which is another kettle of fish entirely. For those who don't know a RIM (Remote Integrated Multiplexer) is a piece of pair gain infrastructure,fibre fed rather than copper and depending on the "model" not particularly ADSL friendly.Having said that ADSL is possible but the main restricting factor is space.There is no room in a RIM housing to accommodate a multitude of competitors DSLAMs and the like. So to say that Telstra won't let other ISPs into the RIM is just wrong,other ISPs can't fit into the RIM.
RIMS are old technology and were never meant for ADSL use as we know it today,no more are installed but the ones that are there get upgraded as time goes by and new stuff becomes available.
There is a project going on now called "Top Hat" whereby extensions are made to the housings to allow for more and quicker services. Gigabit backhaul and such. This is googleable and will give you a timetable of RIMs to be upgraded. I had a link and will try to find it if anyone is interested.
RIMS almost always have a 50 or 100 pair copper cable feeding them in addition to the fibre,to allow for services which were incompatible with RIM technology to have a copper feed back to the exchange.
You can ask your ISP to request a transposal onto one of these pairs,some ISPs will do that some wont. If successful you can get a service from whomever you like,naked even.Did you try that Dedja? Do you think Telstra should spend billions to provide all customers with a copper path when that investment will never return a profit?

Just read back thru this and have realised it isn't much more than a rant
Other points made about privatisation and retail/wholesale I pretty much agree it is a dogs breakfast and should have been handled far better,saying that it might have meant if Telstra had remained a Government business enterprise,they may not have had to buy back into the comms industry.
Sorry about raving and I admit I have lost my train of thought now so I'll put this up and let you have at it.
PS not having a crack at you personally Dedja

[Footy Chick]

I worked for Telstra for 5 years and never had any services with them for that whole time, I was such a loyal worker

[dedja]

Mate, I've worked in the IT Industry for over 20 years and am responsible for a very large network (amongst other things) in my current role.

I am certainly aware of the latest move by Tel$tra in commissioning Tophats. What you have failed to disclose is that they will be paid a nice premium by the NBN for customers connected to their network when they transfer to the NBN ... this is main reason why they are doing it.

Tel$ra have lots of fibre backhaul from cmux or similar (green boxes) and are indeed upgrading backhaul to 1Gbps on cmux boxes upgraded by Tophat.

Tel$tra could have done this many, many years ago by decided not to in order to squeeze every last drop out of their monopoly copper network. They are only moving now because of the NBN.

They limit ADSL1 to 8000/384 when in fact ADLS1 is more than capable of 1Mbps up, again this was done to stifle their competition.

They also have been known to reject connections via a third party ISP as a wholesaler, but magically will approve the same connection if Bigpond (yes, their own retailer) is the ISP.

Then there's line rental. They have a budget homeline option which is about $22 per month. Anyone on Tel$tra wholesale infrastructure can have this plan, but Tel$tra retail fraudulently tell customers that it's only available if they Bigpond as their ISP.

Now the usual line rental these days (without bundling) is around $30 per month. So that extra $8 per month, every month, for a shitload of Tel$tra wholesale customers is a nice little earner for them.

My cmux is not being forecast as one of the 2,000 expected Tophat upgrades, and is 200m from my home with fibre backhaul to the Paradise exchange. At approx 9kms from the exchange, any idea to use copper for ADSL is a technically implausible exercise. Most of my neighbours are now installing WiMax from Adam.

In some ways it's not Tel$tra's fault ... The government has allowed them through the T1, T2 and finally T3 privitisations to continue to operate on a monopoly basis because they have the vast majority of the wholesale business.

Also, I've had the great displeasure of having Tel$tra as a corporate service provider in many of my jobs, and they are without doubt one of the most bloated, inefficient and customer unfriendly organisations I have worked with.

Their Bigpond offerings are blatant ripoffs and they will continue to stifle competition at every opportunity.

In almost every case where Tel$tra have changed their offerings to market they have been driven to do so by the very competition they crave to drive out.

The ACCC have made judgements against them regarding anti-competitive behaviour but they continue to thumb their noses at the Telco industry in this country.

The NBN will be the greatest legacy this clueless Federal Government will give to the country, and I applaud every move.

I will admit that their 3G and now 4G mobile network are very good and they should be applauded for their investments there, but on fixed line services, they are definitely the lowest in my opinion for their service to customers and value for money.

[Footy Chick]

that's because ther'es no money in fixed line - fixed line phones will soon be a thing of the past, just like public phones.

[Kahuna]

Some fair points Dedja and some I will respond to,not now though as on the turps and likely to get messy.
One thing though, the continued use of "Tel$tra" is rather wearisome. Will you be referring to "$imon" now he has sold out?

[dedja]

LOL, yes a fair point.

Much harder to type, especially on an iPad

[mighty_tiger_79]

im on tired of tel$tra

[Kahuna]

im on tired of tel$tra

You been drinking too?

[scottroo]

when someone crashes into your new car while its parked at marion and drives off.

[mighty_tiger_79]

im on tired of tel$tra

You been drinking too?

yep

[Big Phil]

when someone crashes into your new car while its parked at marion and drives off.

That's happened to me, at Arndale, except it was a work car. Bloody mongrels.

[dedja]

when someone crashes into your new car while its parked at marion and drives off.

I have the victim of this a couple of times, many more times when someone else has put a slght ding in my car.

Utter mongrels they are.

Only once has someone left a note for me when they've hit my parked car ... Well done to the lad but unfortunately it's the exception to the rule.

[smac]

when someone crashes into your new car while its parked at marion and drives off.

I have the victim of this a couple of times, many more times when someone else has put a slght ding in my car.

Utter mongrels they are.

Only once has someone left a note for me when they've hit my parked car ... Well done to the lad but unfortunately it's the exception to the rule.

Yep. 5 claims in 3 years for this shit. My next car wl be a camira, if I can convince the lease company.

[southee]

People driving on the otherside of the road on diagonal road in Marion ...... Headlights coming straight at me and the wife .
Scared us sh..less!!

[mal]

The 200 + times people have butted their cigarette ash or threw cigarettes out of their vehicles in 2011

[The Sleeping Giant]

You flick cigarette ash out the car window.

[locky801]

Burst water mains, this one on Nth East Rd Collinswood has been spewing water at great knots now for nearly 12 hours

[overloaded]

The 200 + times people have butted their cigarette ash or threw cigarettes out of their vehicles in 2011

I would have to agree, there are a lot of pigs out there MAL.

[Ian]

The 200 + times people have butted their cigarette ash or threw cigarettes out of their vehicles in 2011

Try dodging them while riding a motorbike

[Wedgie]

1) Hangovers casued by no food and lots of beer and cocktails the night before.
2) Having your missus pick you up from night out when your shirt is on inside out with lots of prickles on it.
3) Having a power outage when I have aforementioned hangover.