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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:27 pm

Not long now to the most anticipated debut in SACCA. Rob O we salute you
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:16 pm

carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:Has there been any determinations in the case of Paralowie playing the bloke(Watson) who is currently serving a lengthy suspension in the PDCA?


Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?

If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:21 pm

Noel Craig wrote:
carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:Has there been any determinations in the case of Paralowie playing the bloke(Watson) who is currently serving a lengthy suspension in the PDCA?


Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?

If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.


Well you did get smashed in the game so lets take the easy way out and dob him in. How do you know that Paralowie are not telling the truth?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:36 pm

hotpies wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:
carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:Has there been any determinations in the case of Paralowie playing the bloke(Watson) who is currently serving a lengthy suspension in the PDCA?


Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?

If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.


Well you did get smashed in the game so lets take the easy way out and dob him in. How do you know that Paralowie are not telling the truth?

It's not about taking the easy way out at all. Regardless of the result, Enfield decided it was in the best interests of the comp as a whole to not have someone like him given a chance to play in our comp despite his demise in another.

I don't for a single second believe your club wouldn't have done the same thing. The right thing. I don't know Paralowie to well so it's not for me to judge wether they are telling the truth or not. But going on previous years, I don't know what to believe. I guess the association committee will decide when they get around to it.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby brod » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:15 pm

hotpies wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:
carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:Has there been any determinations in the case of Paralowie playing the bloke(Watson) who is currently serving a lengthy suspension in the PDCA?


Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?

If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.


Well you did get smashed in the game so lets take the easy way out and dob him in. How do you know that Paralowie are not telling the truth?


Cant think Enfield only worked it out after the game..why not have a quiet word at the start if they knew this information???
Still wouldve beat them without him
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:26 am

Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?[/quote]
If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.[/quote]

Well you did get smashed in the game so lets take the easy way out and dob him in. How do you know that Paralowie are not telling the truth?[/quote]

Cant think Enfield only worked it out after the game..why not have a quiet word at the start if they knew this information???
Still wouldve beat them without him[/quote]
Brod. It wasnt known till the second Saturday. Wooo Hooo, ofcourse you would have beaten a struggling side like Enfield. Aren't you guys just the greatest. Enfield would struggle to beat there own C Grade and this has been the way for the last couple of seasons so again wooo hooo, go Paralowie!! You guys are world beaters.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby george » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:29 am

Cant think Enfield only worked it out after the game..why not have a quiet word at the start if they knew this information???
Still wouldve beat them without him[/quote]

Brod it seems strange you expect Enfield to figure it out before the game but you guys say you didnt know till after. Maybe be there is more than one person misleading everyone. Why your on it well done in beating Enfield 2nd or 3rd ranked side. Maybe next year you could grow a pair and play div 1.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby The Informer » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:08 am

It's not about taking the easy way out at all. Regardless of the result, Enfield decided it was in the best interests of the comp as a whole to not have someone like him given a chance to play in our comp despite his demise in another.

I don't for a single second believe your club wouldn't have done the same thing. The right thing. I don't know Paralowie to well so it's not for me to judge wether they are telling the truth or not. But going on previous years, I don't know what to believe. I guess the association committee will decide when they get around to it.


Wouldn't mind just picking up on a few things in this post. How can it be in the best interest of the comp to not let him play in this comp? We have teams playing A grade with 9 players, we have teams playing guys in footy shorts and grey tshirts. How can it be in the best interest to turn people away?
You said you don't know enough about Paralowie but you didn't mind bagging the crap out of them to a mate lat night did you?
Yes Paralowie are in Div 2 but i only believe this is the case as they were not even sure if they were going to have a team this season or not, but in your judgement we should just turn people away and then watch the comp fold.
Maybe if Enfield stop sandbagging the blokes in the lower grades and played were you are good enough to play, you may be a bit more competitive. I do not think Enfield is in any position to tell other clubs how they should be run.
This comp is dieing and it is painful to watch as it used to be a very strong comp 10 years ago.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby The Informer » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:09 am

george wrote:Cant think Enfield only worked it out after the game..why not have a quiet word at the start if they knew this information???
Still wouldve beat them without him


Brod it seems strange you expect Enfield to figure it out before the game but you guys say you didnt know till after. Maybe be there is more than one person misleading everyone. Why your on it well done in beating Enfield 2nd or 3rd ranked side. Maybe next year you could grow a pair and play div 1.


George you winner, Enfields 3 ranked side would beat there 1st rank side!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby No1_Source » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:38 am

not sure who in our lower grades would make a difference in our A grade but thats why its called a forum to write opinions :P

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Adelaide Lutheran A
Para Vista A
Rose Park A

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Enfield A
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Enfield B
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:09 am

george wrote:Cant think Enfield only worked it out after the game..why not have a quiet word at the start if they knew this information???
Still wouldve beat them without him


Brod it seems strange you expect Enfield to figure it out before the game but you guys say you didnt know till after. Maybe be there is more than one person misleading everyone. Why your on it well done in beating Enfield 2nd or 3rd ranked side. Maybe next year you could grow a pair and play div 1.[/quote]
Well said bloke
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby spintwin » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:14 am

Auto i will take the same as Reggie
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:26 am

The_Informer wrote:
It's not about taking the easy way out at all. Regardless of the result, Enfield decided it was in the best interests of the comp as a whole to not have someone like him given a chance to play in our comp despite his demise in another.

I don't for a single second believe your club wouldn't have done the same thing. The right thing. I don't know Paralowie to well so it's not for me to judge wether they are telling the truth or not. But going on previous years, I don't know what to believe. I guess the association committee will decide when they get around to it.


Wouldn't mind just picking up on a few things in this post. 1) How can it be in the best interest of the comp to not let him play in this comp? We have teams playing A grade with 9 players, we have teams playing guys in footy shorts and grey tshirts. 2) How can it be in the best interest to turn people away?
3) You said you don't know enough about Paralowie but you didn't mind bagging the crap out of them to a mate lat night did you?
Yes Paralowie are in Div 2 but i only believe this is the case as they were not even sure if they were going to have a team this season or not, but in your judgement we should just turn people away and then watch the comp fold.
4) Maybe if Enfield stop sandbagging the blokes in the lower grades and played were you are good enough to play, you may be a bit more competitive. I do not think Enfield is in any position to tell other clubs how they should be run.
This comp is dieing and it is painful to watch as it used to be a very strong comp 10 years ago.

Now I'm going to return the favour and pick your post apart.
1) I for one will never ever encourage my club to play players who are suspended from other comps. As I stated, I don't know Paralowie that well so i cant judge who wronged who.

2) I can't think of a club that turns legit players away. This bloke was not legit and Paralowie may not have known. But if known, it is and always will be in the best interest of the comp to turn these people away. I know the comp is dying but I would prefer the comp to fight through and prosper legitimately then outsource to other comps and advertise that it's okay for suspended players to spread there wings to our comp.

3) Wow, we have a detective in our ranks :S I don't know what/who you talking about there.

4) Yes some players so 'sandbag' but as you made clear above, we are in no place to push players away right?? The average age of our C Grade would be well in to the 40's, very few train and very few are over competitive cricket and are in it for the social aspect. Call this weak if you like but this happens in every comp including PDCA.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:30 am

Noel Craig wrote:
carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:Has there been any determinations in the case of Paralowie playing the bloke(Watson) who is currently serving a lengthy suspension in the PDCA?


Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?

If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.


I can assure this is the case noel and i hold no grudge what so ever against enfield for bringing it up the fact is he should not of been playing which is most certainly going to be the case from here on in.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:39 am

carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:
carey wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:Has there been any determinations in the case of Paralowie playing the bloke(Watson) who is currently serving a lengthy suspension in the PDCA?


Noel, the paralowie capt/coach is in thailand and has had his flight delayed he will not be back in Aus till nearly 10am saturday morning he has been trying to get to the bottom of this mess whilst being away on a holiday.

He has got in contact with the exc. of PDCA to confirm the suspension and Adam will no longer be a part of the paralowie side he has sent an email to CCC&A to explain the situation and what has unfolded.

as has been said a few pages back Paralowie was misled and registered the player at no stage did paralowie try to hard the fact of who he was his scores werent hidden from the paper and internet or anything like so if paralowie knew they were doing wrong would they publish these results? i highly doubt it.

What messures are in place to stop clubs being misled? How were paralowie to know the player was suspened when the player clearly stated he wasnt?

If this is the case I feel very sorry for Paralowie. This bloke needs to be rubbed out for a very very long time. And to add to this all, Enfield and there committee and captain are copping severe flack for reporting him. Doesn't sound fair to me.


I can assure this is the case noel and i hold no grudge what so ever against enfield for bringing it up the fact is he should not of been playing which is most certainly going to be the case from here on in.

I trust that you are a man of much knowledge Carey. I believe ya ;)
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby infinity+1 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:44 am

I have been reading what has been written about the suspended player. We should all be giving Paralowie the benefit of the doubt. Carey (who is obviously in a position of authority out there) has stated that they were misled and we should take that as gospel unless proven otherwise. This country's judicial system is based on innocent untill proven guilty and as patriots we should stick to that.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:47 am

infinity+1 wrote:I have been reading what has been written about the suspended player. We should all be giving Paralowie the benefit of the doubt. Carey (who is obviously in a position of authority out there) has stated that they were misled and we should take that as gospel unless proven otherwise. This country's judicial system is based on innocent untill proven guilty and as patriots we should stick to that.

I agree whole heartedly
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby infinity+1 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:48 am

Also is it possible to come into the tipping competition please. i know its a third of the way through but can i start equal bottom. if so my tips are:

lutherans
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nek
vista

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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:57 am

Time to go set up. Hoping there will be play today. Good luck everyone
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby brod » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:31 am

george wrote:Cant think Enfield only worked it out after the game..why not have a quiet word at the start if they knew this information???
Still wouldve beat them without him


Brod it seems strange you expect Enfield to figure it out before the game but you guys say you didnt know till after. Maybe be there is more than one person misleading everyone. Why your on it well done in beating Enfield 2nd or 3rd ranked side. Maybe next year you could grow a pair and play div 1.[/quote]

We played Div 2 last year and finished THIRD...promotion and relegation doesnt include third. :roll:
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