Will the Adelaide Oval Redevelopment go ahead?

[Voice]

But it's fine to take away revenue from the biggest money making entity at AO aswell as probably yourselves by not allowing NAB Cup games there which attract up to 10000 so that SS games can be there with 150 people?

[Footy Smart]

But it's fine to take away revenue from the biggest money making entity at AO aswell as probably yourselves by not allowing NAB Cup games there which attract up to 10000 so that SS games can be there with 150 people?

AO is the home of SA Cricket. Has been since noah was a boy, this cant change simply for the $$$. People have been ranting on these boards about the AFL CEO recieving 2.2mil including bonus when he meets targets majority $$ driven yet you want the same thing to occur. The AFL come in and take over AO and kick SACA to a suburban ground all for the sake of $$. NAB cup can be played at local grounds, and revenue can still be made by the AFL with less opperating costs.

[smac]

Adelaide Oval will remain the home of SACA.

Glenelg Oval is a backup for SS matches should AO be unavailable for any reason. This could be Rugby7's or an ACDC concert, but if such an event is not scheduled then SS is played at AO.

SACA and SANFL pay the running costs for their respective sports and share the costs (and profits) of other events at any time of the year.

[AFLflyer]

Adelaide Oval will remain the home of SACA.

Glenelg Oval is a backup for SS matches should AO be unavailable for any reason. This could be Rugby7's or an ACDC concert, but if such an event is not scheduled then SS is played at AO.

SACA and SANFL pay the running costs for their respective sports and share the costs (and profits) of other events at any time of the year.

sounds fair to me

[OnSong]

But it's fine to take away revenue from the biggest money making entity at AO aswell as probably yourselves by not allowing NAB Cup games there which attract up to 10000 so that SS games can be there with 150 people?

150? Lets not exaggerate!

[Royal City]

Going to be very hard for SACA members to vote for this when they already have what they wanted, ESP when you need 8 out of 10 votes for it to proceed

Plus the fact saca can make revenue from the oval currently for 12 months of the year.
But cover the costs of running A/Oval for 12 months of the year.

Under the new deal they collect revenue for 5 months. Whilst paying half the cost of running A/Oval in those 5 months.

Then football picks up revenue for 7 months of the year

Whilst SACA foots half the running costs in that time.

Not a great deal IMHO!!!!

If your such an expert and think this is not a good idea, please tell me why the SACA are gagging for this to go through?
It's Just a FEW of you memebers having a whinge. Why do you really care who makes what money and when?

and it's just a few of you fickle afl fans who are sick of aami demanding our oval.

Saca member get access to all events at Adelaide oval . Along with cricket we have has access to 4 free soccer tickets, rugby tickets, sanfl anzac day this year plsu free KOL concert tickets.

Under the new scheme we only get 5 months access to our ground. But will have to pay more. ie. we will be forced to pay more but more than likely receive less than what we do now.

I cant put it in any simpler terms for you.

[JK]

Going to be very hard for SACA members to vote for this when they already have what they wanted, ESP when you need 8 out of 10 votes for it to proceed

Plus the fact saca can make revenue from the oval currently for 12 months of the year.
But cover the costs of running A/Oval for 12 months of the year.

Under the new deal they collect revenue for 5 months. Whilst paying half the cost of running A/Oval in those 5 months.

Then football picks up revenue for 7 months of the year

Whilst SACA foots half the running costs in that time.

Not a great deal IMHO!!!!

SACA would be a BIG chance of going belly-up if they didn't make this deal happen .. The old saying in business/life is "Noone does nothing for nothing".

[smac]

That's another myth.

SACA have a business plan that sees them continue to be profitable should this not go ahead.

[JK]

That's another myth.

SACA have a business plan that sees them continue to be profitable should this not go ahead.

Aren't they $85mil in the hole though?

[smac]

They have a debt, below that level, but it is significant. Doesn't mean they can't afford to trade and be succesful.

[JK]

They have a debt, below that level, but it is significant. Doesn't mean they can't afford to trade and be succesful.

Fair call mate .. Doesn't mean their plan would succeed either.

At the end of the day I know you're more in the know on this than I am, so happy to accept your thoughts

[Jim05]

Will football be signing a long term agreement ie 30 years plus? Just worried that if in 10 years time somehow SA gets a heap of money or a white knight decides to build a new undercover stadium that football will want to move again. If we are going to all this trouble then football MUST be forced to stay at Adelaide oval for at least the next 30 years.

[OnSong]

Will football be signing a long term agreement ie 30 years plus? Just worried that if in 10 years time somehow SA gets a heap of money or a white knight decides to build a new undercover stadium that football will want to move again. If we are going to all this trouble then football MUST be forced to stay at Adelaide oval for at least the next 30 years.

A fair point.

[Voice]

Will football be signing a long term agreement ie 30 years plus? Just worried that if in 10 years time somehow SA gets a heap of money or a white knight decides to build a new undercover stadium that football will want to move again. If we are going to all this trouble then football MUST be forced to stay at Adelaide oval for at least the next 30 years.

I'll give you that one aswell. Hopefully that will kill the undercover stadium debate forever. Open air stadiums are much better anyway rather than sterile "same conditions for every match" closed stadia.

[CUTTERMAN]

While it's good to see the AFL putting in "some" money I've been wondering why no one ever expects Cricket Australia to dobb into their pockets to help out with an upgrade. Is there a structural thing in cricket that I'm missing here?

[Royal City]

Going to be very hard for SACA members to vote for this when they already have what they wanted, ESP when you need 8 out of 10 votes for it to proceed

Plus the fact saca can make revenue from the oval currently for 12 months of the year.
But cover the costs of running A/Oval for 12 months of the year.

Under the new deal they collect revenue for 5 months. Whilst paying half the cost of running A/Oval in those 5 months.

Then football picks up revenue for 7 months of the year

Whilst SACA foots half the running costs in that time.

Not a great deal IMHO!!!!

SACA would be a BIG chance of going belly-up if they didn't make this deal happen .. The old saying in business/life is "Noone does nothing for nothing".

Any proof they would go belly up without this CP ?????

The Western Stand developement was approved in 2008. And funded in 2009. Do you generally give $90 mill investments to companies in the red ??????

SACA had to budget for a reduced capacity for how long whilst construction proceeded and funding was still approved ????

The SMA agreement was signed earlier ion the week and hasnt even been funded yet.

The Western stand has nothing to do with SMA and trying to link it as the second stage of the plan to save SACA is false.

So SACA is going broke but as a company was owed $1 million dollars in prize money from the ICL for the last 12 mths ???

Anybody else know of a business who is nearly belly up being able to continue trading whilst being owed $1 million dollars.

Ashes being sold out for the first four days the last two times, 18000 crowds to 20/20 cricket in the last 24 months plus the final game. Now having a 20000 strong membership base.
Its on the grow guys.

Certainly doesnt sound like a struggling business to me boys. Despite Ruccis spin.

Would you like to guess how many millions SACA made last year alone ????

[AFLflyer]

Royal City, did you hear Ian McLachlan on the radio last night?
The SACA want and need this..
Our state Needs this. It's a positive for everyone (including you!) think of the Spin offs in the CBD, tourism etc!
SACA members wait for your information that is coming in the mail, read it, and then make an informed vote. Don;t get ahead of yourself and miss the point! (the bigger picture)

[JK]

Going to be very hard for SACA members to vote for this when they already have what they wanted, ESP when you need 8 out of 10 votes for it to proceed

Plus the fact saca can make revenue from the oval currently for 12 months of the year.
But cover the costs of running A/Oval for 12 months of the year.

Under the new deal they collect revenue for 5 months. Whilst paying half the cost of running A/Oval in those 5 months.

Then football picks up revenue for 7 months of the year

Whilst SACA foots half the running costs in that time.

Not a great deal IMHO!!!!

SACA would be a BIG chance of going belly-up if they didn't make this deal happen .. The old saying in business/life is "Noone does nothing for nothing".

Any proof they would go belly up without this CP ?????

The Western Stand developement was approved in 2008. And funded in 2009. Do you generally give $90 mill investments to companies in the red ??????

SACA had to budget for a reduced capacity for how long whilst construction proceeded and funding was still approved ????

The SMA agreement was signed earlier ion the week and hasnt even been funded yet.

The Western stand has nothing to do with SMA and trying to link it as the second stage of the plan to save SACA is false.

So SACA is going broke but as a company was owed $1 million dollars in prize money from the ICL for the last 12 mths ???

Anybody else know of a business who is nearly belly up being able to continue trading whilst being owed $1 million dollars.

Ashes being sold out for the first four days the last two times, 18000 crowds to 20/20 cricket in the last 24 months plus the final game. Now having a 20000 strong membership base.
Its on the grow guys.

Certainly doesnt sound like a struggling business to me boys. Despite Ruccis spin.

Would you like to guess how many millions SACA made last year alone ????

Nope no proof mate, just going from the reports I've read and information I've garnered myself ... Could well be wrong, but I really don't think there's any doubt that the SACA are in the Red .. Doesn't mean though as SMAC suggested they wouldn't have a strategic plan to address the debt and continue trading, whether that plan would ultimately be successful would be unknown to all I would imagine.

[JK]

Will football be signing a long term agreement ie 30 years plus? Just worried that if in 10 years time somehow SA gets a heap of money or a white knight decides to build a new undercover stadium that football will want to move again. If we are going to all this trouble then football MUST be forced to stay at Adelaide oval for at least the next 30 years.

A fair point.

If football decided to "move out" of Adelaide Oval, then the SACA reclaims ownership of the ground in it's own right as they have today, without the burden of however many million $ of debt they currently have, so they would still be better off than they are today unless Im missing something (which is very possible).

I do agree that it would it still be in the interests of both parties and future budgets and forecasts etc, that there is some legal agreement that binds them to this committment for x amount of years.

I would be highly surprised if such an agreement isn't signed off on by both the SACA and SANFL before the shared setup commences.

[White Line Fever]

How many SACA members are there?

Why is the future of our state in their hands?

They might only represent a miniscule percentage of entire population.

AFL football MUST be in the CBD for Adelaide to grow.
There should be no argument. Just get on with it, the longer it gets discussed the further it is away.
It will happen.

This town is so dam backwards it drives me crazy.