Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

[catchit]

To much love for my liking at the moment

would you like to join norm11?

Wonder if stama and jimmy would be up for the past players game this year

Yeah ill be in... is it past vs present?

pretty sure someone would have a wedding on that day if this was the case...

[duck-mann]

i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

[catchit]

i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

you have my vote..

[bulldogs]

what u not keen mate, we could even count it as a game and take your tally to 2.

[cricket4life]

i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

i think u may have started a major debate lol.

but its a good point u make Duck-mann... n theres a lot of issues to be raised about this new club. Do you have to be of Bangladeshi origin to play for them? do we then start asking question of racial segregation amongst clubs? because im an australian and if i wanted to play for this team, do they knock me back because of my origins? and if i do play for them, surely they arent Bangladesh tigers anymore r they???

[Senor Moto Gadili]

i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

i think u may have started a major debate lol.

but its a good point u make Duck-mann... n theres a lot of issues to be raised about this new club. Do you have to be of Bangladeshi origin to play for them? do we then start asking question of racial segregation amongst clubs? because im an australian and if i wanted to play for this team, do they knock me back because of my origins? and if i do play for them, surely they arent Bangladesh tigers anymore r they???

Gee, you would want to play them at home...away game would be a real pain.

[Wizard of Oz]

i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

There is already a make shift club in the Adelaide & Suburban comp called Adelaide Indians...

Haven't heard any bad things about them thus far.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Gee, you would want to play them at home...away game would be a real pain.

LMAO!!

[smac]

Which suburb is Rose & Crown named after? Or ATCO? Aren't they named after a common interest of those who started the club?

Sounds the same to me.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

I agree and coz ive had a few this might sound bit retarded lol but here we go

I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.

I think it isolates the side/club from the rest of the competition. If you were a young AUSSIE kid living in the area, dont you think it would be akward and uncomfortably playing for or approaching a side called "Bangladesh", esp if the side/club is built around and full of people of that nationality.

Also do you think a competition would allow side to enter whose name was "Australia" or "whites only" or some ridiculous crap like that?

You might argue that most sporting sides are white dominant and hard for immigrants to feel comfortable and fit into, but clubs dont openly name themselves or operate in such manner than makes some new person think they cant approach the club!

I dont think by forming their own sporting sides/clubs is exactly "intergrating" - sure they are partaking in aus sport etc but they are still isolating distancing themselves from AUSTRALIANS!

[smac]

Do you know how many of their players have approached other cricket clubs and were made to feel not very welcome?

These blokes are incredibly passionate about their cricket, enough so that they chose to create their own club rather than sit out. I look forward to watching them this season.

Out of the delegates from all clubs at the AGM, not one of them said a word about the name of the club. Sounds like a non-issue to me.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Do you know how many of their players have approached other cricket clubs and were made to feel not very welcome?

These blokes are incredibly passionate about their cricket, enough so that they chose to create their own club rather than sit out. I look forward to watching them this season.

Out of the delegates from all clubs at the AGM, not one of them said a word about the name of the club. Sounds like a non-issue to me.

Personally i dont care and i do look forward to their progress, i just think it is definately something that may raise concerns and questions!

and i would like to know the answer to your question.. how many have approached other clubs and felt not welcome!? I know Kilburn made their Afghan locals feel extremely welcome, eliz East last season had almost a full side of afghan kids too and ive seen plenty of sides floating around with one or two immigrants playing..

[duck-mann]

There is already a make shift club in the Adelaide & Suburban comp called Adelaide Indians...

Haven't heard any bad things about them thus far.

and Im not saying this new club will cause problems either...

was more thinking have we opened a can of worms... now where do you draw the line? If the PDCA decides down the track they dont want/like the name of another club starting up using another countries name they will have people claiming racism. It may not be an issue now but it may have laid a path for issues later.

Which suburb is Rose & Crown named after? Or ATCO? Aren't they named after a common interest of those who started the club?

Sounds the same to me.

The difference is the use of a countries name... Like the point has been made by others the use of the country in the club name sends a signal to outsiders that the club is for people from 'Bangladesh' origin only (which Im sure is not the case) but that is the way a lot of people will perceive it.
By naming a club after "a common interest" as youve mentioned you are not creating a boundary such as race or religion which IMO would be the 2 things that cause more issues than anything else.

[duck-mann]

I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.

Agree with this statement 100%

[AKA]

I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.

Agree with this statement 100%

Look new to the cricket forum but sounds to me A "Majority being worried about a minority" I know alot of indigenous players wanting to play with their own people in the Amateur football league ( Kaurna Eagles) Why cant this cricket team go ahead, just a opinion from the left side.

[bothamsfearnley]

quote="SmithyOTH"]i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.[/quote]


Yeah its an interesting conversation. I think they should receive every encouragement from the Association and all member clubs, but when I was a youngster you didnt join a soccer club if you were not of the "ethnic mix" that club represented -much of it was unspoken but it did exist. On the other hand, a fair bit of blatant racism is unspoken as well and thats not right either. I am not saying "ethnic tension' will happen here but dividing our sport along any ethnic or national lines makes me very uncomfortable. I believe that the ATCA has something specific in their rules about not allowing any clubs to be named after any country, or ethnic group and that makes a fair bit of sense to me.

Besides, its self limiting. Look at the Churches Association. they are having discussions to drop the church stuff because its not relevant anymore and some believe its hurting their comp. this says to me "unless you are bangladeshi dont bother" much like Hellas and Juventus used to in their own way.

[duck-mann]

I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.

Agree with this statement 100%

Look new to the cricket forum but sounds to me A "Majority being worried about a minority" I know alot of indigenous players wanting to play with their own people in the Amateur football league ( Kaurna Eagles) Why cant this cricket team go ahead, just a opinion from the left side.

I dont think anyone is "worried" about people wanting to join in the association, of any "minority" group.. The more players the merrier. The only issue raised is that of the name of the club, not of its members.

[AKA]

I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.

Agree with this statement 100%

Look new to the cricket forum but sounds to me A "Majority being worried about a minority" I know alot of indigenous players wanting to play with their own people in the Amateur football league ( Kaurna Eagles) Why cant this cricket team go ahead, just a opinion from the left side.

I dont think anyone is "worried" about people wanting to join in the association, of any "minority" group.. The more players the merrier. The only issue raised is that of the name of the club, not of its members.

Fair call Duckmann i suppose its going to be a topic for some time.

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The clubs name is the Adelaide Bangladesh Tigers.

[bazza1]

i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.

one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.

Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...

but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...

Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...

There is already a make shift club in the Adelaide & Suburban comp called Adelaide Indians...

Haven't heard any bad things about them thus far.

The Adelaide Indians played in our section 2 grade this year. They were always late for games, only had 3 pairs of pads, so the bloke that got out had to get his pads of so the next bloke could pad up. And they had to change there B grade to become another club because there were people from another race playing for them. They became the Internationals.