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Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:59 pm
by zipzap
I've set up an old PC in the back room for the kids, with wireless connectivity. But it's struggling to get a decent internet connection with my PC & modem in the front room. On one of those Zazz-type sites I seem to recall the existence of a simple device that could extend the range of a wireless connection by actually plugging into a mains outlet between the modem and the furthest computer.

Am I dreaming?

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:31 pm
by Kahuna
No experience with this myself but Google "Ethernet over Power"

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:51 pm
by dedja
Kahuna is correct, it's ethernet over power.

It's a way that you can have a wired connection, but beware as it can be very problematic but I must admit I haven't used it myself.

The very best way is to run ethernet between the rooms, but this may not be practical due to the type of walls and requires installation by an ACMA accredited data cabler.

Another possible solution is to move the modem to the middle of the house, but again, this will probably involve some cabling.

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:59 pm
by zipzap
I've been researching the possibility of using an older wireless router as a bridge to an upgraded wireless router. Both are Netcomm but as they are different models I'm not sure how to get them to talk to each other... is it even possible?

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:06 pm
by 7-Dog
You can purchase a Wireless Range Extenders, but I have no idea how effective/reliable they are.

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:18 pm
by zipzap
7-Dog wrote:You can purchase a Wireless Range Extenders, but I have no idea how effective/reliable they are.


Are they the little things that sit on the antenna?

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:31 pm
by 7-Dog
zipzap wrote:
7-Dog wrote:You can purchase a Wireless Range Extenders, but I have no idea how effective/reliable they are.


Are they the little things that sit on the antenna?


I believe it is a little box itself.

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:20 pm
by Interceptor
dedja wrote:The very best way is to run ethernet between the rooms, but this may not be practical due to the type of walls and requires installation by an ACMA accredited data cabler.

Why would you need an "accredited cabler" to run ethernet cable through your house??
Even if you have a difficult install, it's a DYI job.

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:38 pm
by dedja
Interceptor wrote:
dedja wrote:The very best way is to run ethernet between the rooms, but this may not be practical due to the type of walls and requires installation by an ACMA accredited data cabler.

Why would you need an "accredited cabler" to run ethernet cable through your house??
Even if you have a difficult install, it's a DYI job.


If you run an ethernet cable through a wall and you don't have a licence it's illegal ... stupid as that may be but unfortunately true.

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:03 pm
by Interceptor
dedja wrote:
Interceptor wrote:
dedja wrote:The very best way is to run ethernet between the rooms, but this may not be practical due to the type of walls and requires installation by an ACMA accredited data cabler.

Why would you need an "accredited cabler" to run ethernet cable through your house??
Even if you have a difficult install, it's a DYI job.


If you run an ethernet cable through a wall and you don't have a licence it's illegal ... stupid as that may be but unfortunately true.

Yeah found a link to a guide on cabling, but also comments from people explaining the reasoning behind the rules somewhat:

http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2009/11/wire-your-house-with-ethernet-cable/

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:15 pm
by dedja
Australia's regulation in this area is one of the tightest in the world ... other countries are more forgiving.

My thoughts are that it's the government's way of keeping sweet with Telstra, of course there was no conflict of interest at all from the government when it had a majority share in the company.

So you can lay coax cable in the walls and ceiling of your house to your heart's content, but any conceiled cabling with ethernet (or fibre for that matter) and you need an ACMA licence.

The chances of being caught aren't high, but if ACMA finds out you'll be about $10,000 lighter and your insurance company might not want to know you.

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:13 am
by Psyber
My ethernet cable must have been put in by the previous owners, who, I assume, must have used an accredited installer. 8)

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:10 pm
by dedja
*cough* of course *cough*

Re: Wireless question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:59 am
by smithy
Psyber wrote:My ethernet cable must have been put in by the previous owners, who, I assume, must have used an accredited installer. 8)

Psyber - 95% of the time I think you must be 195 years old and still lying about your age the way you have experienced life.
The other 5% you crack me up with your humour and the above post is one of them. :lol: