Kronic-synthetic cannabis

[Gozu]

http://www.news.com.au/national/fake-po ... 6059326932

Has anyone tried Kronic and what are your thoughts? It's legal and supposedly all the rage with the miners over in WA. Must admit I am kind of curious to try it before they manage to ban it.

[brod]

I was surprised when i first walked into a deli in NZ and saw the counter/wall plastered with posters for Kronic. Its massive over there with youth ect

[7-Dog]

That article is so far from the truth it is just ridiculous.

"Health experts fear users of the drug, with the street name Kronic, face the same adverse effects of cannabis including heart palpitations, severe hallucinations, delusions and psychosis."

I'm sorry but I have smoked cannabis for too many years to mention and not once have I ever had those effects.

"The legal weed, potentially up to 100 times stronger than regular cannabis, has been available online in Australia for about two years."

No it is not.

I love how this becomes a news story because people have found other ways to get high. But don't touch Alcohol, that's never caused any problems has it.

[Q.]

It's funny, because it's core ingredients are plants that have been used for centuries by other cultures, but not just to get 'high'. They've used them for their medicinal properties.

Skullcap - Ancient Chinese medicine
Lion's Tail - African medicine
Blue Water Lily - Egyptian medicine

The sooner we ban 'nature', the better

[The Sleeping Giant]

Have had a couple of goes at it. Had some "Magic Dragon". It's alright. Nice and mild, no "morning after" effect. Pleasant feeling after smoked, without the side effects of the real stuff.

I'm sure it will be banned soon, when the "do gooders" start spreading misinformation about the products.

Won't someone think of the children?

[Gozu]

I've never really been into smoking dope (probably been nearly ten years since the last time I smoked it) or drugs at all I don't even drink much but each to their own and am just curious to try this before it's gone. I don't know anyone that has tried it so thanks for the feedback.

[Dog_ger]

synthetic cannabis.....

NO THANX.

[Gozu]

You can easily buy it across the country now, but by Friday people trying to buy or sell fake cannabis in Western Australia could face 25 years in jail.

WA will be the first state or territory to ban synthetic cannabinoids sold under such names as Kronic, Voodoo, Kaos and Mango Kush when they are added to the state's Poisons Acts.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/826 ... -marijuana

[The Sleeping Giant]

Didn't take long.

Slightly off topic, but here are some numbers from the USA on annual causes of death.



Cardiovascular diseases 806,156
Malignant neoplasms 562,875
Motor Vehicle Crashes 43,945
Drug induced1 38,371
Septicemia (infections) 34,828
Suicide 34,598
by Firearms 31,224
Accidental poisoning 29,846
Alcohol induced 23,199
Homicide 18,361
Human immunodeficiency virus 11,295
Viral hepatitis 7,407
Cannabis (Marijuana) 0

1 Drug induced include both legal and illicit drugs.

Viagra killed 2,254 people between 1998-2005. Marijuana killed 0. None.

Cigarettes are more or less poison, yet stay off the poisons list. These new cannabis substitutes, which by the way are more expensive than the real thing, contain natural ingredients that have been used by cultures world wide for medicinal purposes and relaxation for centuries.

[GWW]

Cannabis (Marijuana) 0

That figure obviously doesn't include the people killed in road accidents (and other accidents) by people under the influence.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I have never heard of anyone dying or causing death whilst driving under the influence of marijuana.

Have a read of this. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/driving.htm

There are much worse and more dangerous drivers out on our roads day and night than the odd "stoned" driver.

p.s. What "other" accidents are you referring too?

[GWW]

p.s. What "other" accidents are you referring too?

Workplace.

[Barto]

p.s. What "other" accidents are you referring too?

Workplace.

This is the problem. Smartarses in the mines and other work sites are onto it because it doesn't show up on D&A testing but being on something still makes you unfit for work and dangerous. Don't care what people do in their own time but if they're a hazard to others, they're idiots.

It snuck under the radar for a long time and last week I noticed at the local deli they were advertising it. As soon as the corner stores were selling it, I knew it'd be banned sooner rather than later.

[The Sleeping Giant]

p.s. What "other" accidents are you referring too?

Workplace.

Causing deaths at work? Surely you jest. How many die at work in this day and age? What percentage could be related to marijuana use?

[mickey]

p.s. What "other" accidents are you referring too?

Workplace.

Causing deaths at work? Surely you jest. How many die at work in this day and age? What percentage could be related to marijuana use?

Safe Work Australia recently released an informative yet disturbing report on workplace fatalities in Australia for the financial year 2010. There were 124 work-related fatalities in the period between 1 July 2009 and 30 June 2010. The good news is that this figure is down from the 2009 financial year of 177 work-related fatalities.

As an employer responsible for safety, it’s important to understand the high risk areas prone to workplace fatalities. Hopefully this can bring the hazard to the forefront and possibly prevent such a disaster reoccurring. The most dangerous workplace incident types are listed below.

Falls from Heights accounted for 20 fatalities. One would hope that if your industry involves working at heights that all the necessary safety procedures and equipment (harness, signage, ladders, scaffolding,etc) are in place. The reality is that working at heights is dangerous and is the most prone workplace activity to cause a fatality.
Hit by a Falling Object accounted for 15 fatalities. In some instances this type of hazard could be tied closely with working at heights.
Crushing accounted for 13 fatalities.
Electrocution accounted for 12 fatalities. This should remind safety managers on the lethal nature of electricity. Electrical related fatalities can be prevented by lockout equipment, electrical hazard signage and other safety products and procedures.
Vehicle accident not on a public road accounted for 10 fatalities. This is an important workplace situation that could be applicable on private roads, mines, quarry’s, etc. Does your workplace have the necessary road and traffic safety equipment, to indicate safe speed levels, right of way, etc?
Some of the other workplace scenarios causing fatalities include; pedestrians hit by a vehicle, drowning, hit by a moving object other than a car, trapped in machinery. The full report can be viewed here.
Another important safety element extracted from the report is the amount of bystanders that can be injured in workplace accidents. In the 124 work-related fatalities , 13 fatalities were bystanders. So the take away here is that dangerous workplace situations cannot only injure employees – bystanders, visitors and anyone in the general vicinity is also at risk.

[The Sleeping Giant]

124 deaths. More than I thought. How many of those were drug related of any kind?

Not sure why this workplace stuff is an issue anyway. If you are doing drugs at work, you'll be caught.

[Barto]

124 deaths. More than I thought. How many of those were drug related of any kind?

Not sure why this workplace stuff is an issue anyway. If you are doing drugs at work, you'll be caught.

It's definitely under reported, think about the road deaths and for every death that's reported there's another x amount of people who wind up crippled and cant work anymore.

All well and good to catch people off their faces at work, but a lot of problems are related to fatigue and you must have worked with someone who was hungover or had a lack of sleep due to a big night out on the town the previous day. You dont necesarily have to have it still in your system to be dangerous as an indirect result.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Agree Barto. However, posters seem to be missing the point. 0 deaths attributed to marijuana.

[Gozu]

THE State Government is a step closer to outlawing a new fake cannabis drug which has swept the nation and Queensland 's mining communities.

Just days after The Courier-Mail reported on the ready availability of the depressant Kronic, Attorney General Paul Lucas yesterday told State Parliament, the government planned to amend the drugs misuse act to ban all synthetic cannabinoids.

Mr Lucas said Queensland police had recently become aware of an increase in demand for the manufactured product which affects users in a similar fashion to cannabis.

Queensland joins Western Australia , South Australia , Victoria and Tasmania in taking steps to ban the substances.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 6076497703

[BenchedEagle]

Got a Tweet from Mike Rann saying it is illegal from today to sell Kronic, A special Exec council will approve the ban and its penalties