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Would really like to send my kids to a particular school which unfortunately, despite being nearby, is not within our zone.

My mates all just tell me to use my folks address as my own (as they do fall within the required zone).

Has anyone here ever pulled that furphy, and was it successful .. Are there penalties for providing misleading information? Do the schools chase up that information? etc

Any experiences on this sort of thing would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
CP

I know years ago my sister-in-law did this - she gave a friends address to get her kids into a certain school and then changed the address a couple of months later to her own.

However as I said, this was years ago - not sure if they do check up these days or what.

PS: You could probably do it anyway - worst case scenario is they say 'no'.
I think once one child is there, no matter where you are 'liviing' they will accept the second.

schools require a stat dec with proof of address these days.

So you will have to move to the parents for a short period as your official address

A Mum wrote:I think once one child is there, no matter where you are 'liviing' they will accept the second.

I think while that's what is said on paper, the reality is different. Back when I was in high school, my mate went to a school outside his zone but then that school refused to accept his sister the following year.

A colleague of mine wanted to send her daughter to Marryatville, her son had been a student there and left a year before the daughter was to be enrolled, my colleague had moved out of the zone in the mean time. The school refused to accept her daughter unless she could prove she lived in the zone, this required stat decs, copies of lease agreements for at least 12months and utility bills for the address. Anyway she ended up renting a unit in the zone for a year at $300 per week to get her daughter in. I just hope the daughter does well. I would have seriously considered a private school if this had been me.

mick wrote:A colleague of mine wanted to send her daughter to Marryatville, her son had been a student there and left a year before the daughter was to be enrolled, my colleague had moved out of the zone in the mean time. The school refused to accept her daughter unless she could prove she lived in the zone, this required stat decs, copies of lease agreements for at least 12months and utility bills for the address. Anyway she ended up renting a unit in the zone for a year at $300 per week to get her daughter in. I just hope the daughter does well. I would have seriously considered a private school if this had been me.

That's hardcore. Still that's $15,600 for a year's tuition and considering Marryatville is probably better than half the private schools around that's not bad.

bump ... we're in the same boat as our zoned school is hopeless and with 3 girls to come through the system, I'm not keen on the big hole that a private school will burn in my pocket.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/calls-for ... 6263213362

POPULAR public schools are facing a critical shortage of available places, prompting education leaders to call for a review of a zoning system they describe as outdated.

Less popular schools are failing to attract students from their own zones as some parents lie about where they live to get their children into a school of their choice.

In some cases families, such as the Gregorics, of Prospect, may have to send their children to different schools.

SA Secondary Principals Association vice president Peter Mader told The Advertiser the trend of parents and students targeting schools outside their zone had increased over the past decade.

"Parents and students are exercising greater choice and looking to move outside their zone to access their preferred learning site," he said.

Mr Mader said the last time the zoning system was overhauled was in the late 1980s.

The issue centres around the fact that many parents want to send their children to Adelaide High because its seen as better. The reason its better is because its fully subscribed wheras a number of schools are 1/3 full and cant offer full subject choices and resources for children with disabilities and so on. They are not full because parents are sending their children to schools outside the zone, the popular ones get more popular and others like Morphett Vale high close because the numbers become so few.

Modbury High is up 300+ students after the Super School Opened because people rejected it in the area and chose Modbury as a tradtional school instead, clearly they were happy to take those extra children from outside thier zone.

I dont have a problem with picking the best public school for your children. Seems like common sense to me, who does not want the best for them anyway?

Interestingly not all Private Schools are as expensive as you might think in the outer suburbs. Bear in mind that Public Schools are not free of charge and can often be around $500 per student. Torrens Valley Christian School on Grand Junction Rd it pretty reasonable as is Tyndale at Salisbury. Catholic Schools charge based on your income which is another option. Its also worth noting that if you are sending three children to a non government school that you get a discount on the fees for the second and third and that often a fourth goes free of charge on that system.

My suggestion is to do the tours of the Public schools you like, including the local one, and also some private schools so you can get an idea of what the costs are and what the benefits of certain schools are. Often if you put a childs name down for a public school outside of the zone a few years before, its a far easier job to get them accepted.

My sister has been a teacher at a (prestigious) private school for 8 years, and prior to that, in the Education Dept for nearly 30 years, so I've got some good info from her.

The issue I have is not so much how much it costs (but it is still a significant consideration), but which school is going to be able to provide the most appropriate education for my girls.

It will cost over $1200 just for public school fees this year, and that will no doubt keep going up significantly each year.

Even at the cheapest private schools, I'd be spending at least $15,000, with the higher end pushing this up to $50K for the 3 girls.

I'd just like to have some choice in the public system as I have in the private system, that's all.

Agreed my preferred Public High is Henley High which the boundary stops at the Torrens a mere 300 meters away from our place.

Puts us now into the Underdale High zone.

For Primary we're zoned to Lockleys Primary which is in Brooklyn Park, but not Lockleys North which is in Lockleys, the suburb we live in

SJABC wrote:Agreed my preferred Public High is Henley High which the boundary stops at the Torrens a mere 300 meters away from our place.

Puts us now into the Underdale High zone.

For Primary we're zoned to Lockleys Primary which is in Brooklyn Park, but not Lockleys North which is in Lockleys, the suburb we live in

You must live very close to my team leader at work here, she was in exactly the same position, although her daughter ended up at Adelaide under some musicians program thingy...

SJABC wrote:Agreed my preferred Public High is Henley High which the boundary stops at the Torrens a mere 300 meters away from our place.

Puts us now into the Underdale High zone.

For Primary we're zoned to Lockleys Primary which is in Brooklyn Park, but not Lockleys North which is in Lockleys, the suburb we live in

The Lockleys Primary School and Underdale High School double has produced some outstanding individuals over the years.

The only time Zones are used here in Victoria is when a school is near their intake limit for Prep. The school near where we live closed down so we had a choice of three schools. We choose the one with less prep's and better teachers.

Footy Chick wrote:You must live very close to my team leader at work here, she was in exactly the same position, although her daughter ended up at Adelaide under some musicians program thingy...

What street is she in Chicky?

Booney wrote:The Lockleys Primary School and Underdale High School double has produced some outstanding individuals over the years.

That's what I'm worried about....

Leaping Lindner wrote:

mick wrote:A colleague of mine wanted to send her daughter to Marryatville, her son had been a student there and left a year before the daughter was to be enrolled, my colleague had moved out of the zone in the mean time. The school refused to accept her daughter unless she could prove she lived in the zone, this required stat decs, copies of lease agreements for at least 12months and utility bills for the address. Anyway she ended up renting a unit in the zone for a year at $300 per week to get her daughter in. I just hope the daughter does well. I would have seriously considered a private school if this had been me.

That's hardcore. Still that's $15,600 for a year's tuition and considering Marryatville is probably better than half the private schools around that's not bad.

Agreed. Currently looking at moving into the Marryatville zone solely to gain access to both schools.
You're up for about $150k per kid over their senior school life at a decent private school, so when you put 3 kids through, it's worth considering spending a bit extra on a house in a good public school zone (Marryatville, Unley) and saving on the private school fees.

Not too happy about having a big mortgage again, but them's the breaks...

dedja wrote:bump ... we're in the same boat as our zoned school is hopeless and with 3 girls to come through the system, I'm not keen on the big hole that a private school will burn in my pocket.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/calls-for ... 6263213362

POPULAR public schools are facing a critical shortage of available places, prompting education leaders to call for a review of a zoning system they describe as outdated.

Less popular schools are failing to attract students from their own zones as some parents lie about where they live to get their children into a school of their choice.

In some cases families, such as the Gregorics, of Prospect, may have to send their children to different schools.

SA Secondary Principals Association vice president Peter Mader told The Advertiser the trend of parents and students targeting schools outside their zone had increased over the past decade.

"Parents and students are exercising greater choice and looking to move outside their zone to access their preferred learning site," he said.

Mr Mader said the last time the zoning system was overhauled was in the late 1980s.

This is my exact dilemma. We're soned for the super school, but fuuuuuuurque that. Can try for Adelaide, but it's a bit tough to get in apparently.

I know people who have moved house to get their kids into Marryatville High, and save on private school fees.
I had a stepdaughter at Seymour for the first year of my second marriage, and wouldn't have wanted to fund it much longer, but it seemed a bit unsound to move her a the beginning of Year 12.
(She'd been there free on a school-funded scholarship for 3 years, but that was pulled once my income came into consideration.)

Curious, why no love for the super school?

SJABC wrote:

Footy Chick wrote:You must live very close to my team leader at work here, she was in exactly the same position, although her daughter ended up at Adelaide under some musicians program thingy...

What street is she in Chicky?

Not sure, I know it was in Lockleys though.

Q. wrote:Curious, why no love for the super school?

I know for me as a teacher they are an unknown. We don't know anything about them or their good points or bad points. Depending on the school, it has the potential to be better than any other public school in terms of resources and opportunities for students, or it could go completely the other way.