Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:23 pm
by interested observer
Here, Here in my opinion.
And surely it is not racism !!!!!
Hats off to Monsieur Fillon!!!
Prime Minister of France
For once, a French politician has the courage to say out loud what the
French think and sometimes cry out about.....
Interesting approach.
Learning to live in peace and harmony .
Muslims who want to live under the law of the "Islamic Sharia" have recently
been told to leave France in order to guard against possible terrorist
attacks, the government has targeted radicals.
Apparently, the Prime Minister, Francois Fillon has angered some French
Muslims in stating:
THOSE IMMIGRANTS, WHO ARE NOT FRENCH MUST ADAPT.
Take it or leave it, I'm tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
offending some individual or their culture.
Our culture has developed with struggles and victories by millions of men
and women who have sought freedom.
Our official language is French, not Spanish, or Lebanese, or Arabic, or
Chinese, or Japanese, or any other language. Therefore, if you want to be
part of our society, learn the language!
Most French people believe in God. This is not some Christian obligation,
influence by the rightists or political pressure, but it is a fact, because
men and women founded this nation on Christian principles, and this is
clearly documented.
It is then appropriate to display this on the walls of our schools' . if God
offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your
home, because God is part of our culture.
We will accept your beliefs without question.
All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in peaceful harmony with us.
This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, AND OUR LIFESTYLE.
And we offer you the opportunity to enjoy all this.
But if you're tired of our flag, our commitment, our Christian beliefs, or
our lifestyle, I strongly encourage you to take advantage of another great
French freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
If you are not happy here then LEAVE.
We did not force you to come here.
You asked to be here.
So accept the country YOU chose.
Well said.Mr Fillon!
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:16 pm
by Q.
Does the same apply to Buddhists, Jews, Hinduists, Taoists, Animists, Atheists, Satanists?
Just another Christian nut letting religious idealogy cloud judgement

Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:32 pm
by Iron Fist
Quichey wrote:Does the same apply to Buddhists, Jews, Hinduists, Taoists, Animists, Atheists, Satanists?
Just another Christian nut letting religious idealogy cloud judgement

Im sure it does Quichey
But as can be seen in news around the world, it is often the Muslim people making the news.
Dont often here about Buddhist extremists, or Jews having a race war with whites at Cronulla do you?
I totally agree with him and wish our leaders had the balls to say the same in Australia.
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:40 pm
by Darth Vader
Quichey wrote:Does the same apply to Buddhists, Jews, Hinduists, Taoists, Animists, Atheists, Satanists?
Just another Christian nut letting religious idealogy cloud judgement

Come on quichey, these people don't fly planes into skyscrapers full of innocent people. They don't stone women to death because they committed adultery. They dont cut off the heads of journalists and post it on the internet while ranting about Allah. Muslim extremists are ratbags of the first order and we don't need them here do we?
Full marks to the Frog PM.
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:44 pm
by Darth Vader
Iron Fist wrote:Quichey wrote:Does the same apply to Buddhists, Jews, Hinduists, Taoists, Animists, Atheists, Satanists?
Just another Christian nut letting religious idealogy cloud judgement

Im sure it does Quichey
But as can be seen in news around the world, it is often the Muslim people making the news.
Dont often here about Buddhist extremists, or Jews having a race war with whites at Cronulla do you?
I totally agree with him and wish our leaders had the balls to say the same in Australia.
hahahaha - our leaders like Gillard, Hanson-Young, Macklin and Wong don't have balls do they?
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:54 pm
by JK
IT wasn't attributed to the French PM, but that spiel has been going around in emails for years since 9/11.
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:01 pm
by Darth Vader
Oh for Christs sakes - is it just a furphy then? Bugger that has shattered my faith in human nature
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:35 pm
by Q.
Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:40 pm
by interested observer
Quichey wrote:Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.....
No Flaws in that IMO....
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:45 pm
by Q.
interested observer wrote:Quichey wrote:Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.....
No Flaws in that IMO....
Which Roman do you want me to be? The Christian Roman, the Atheist Roman, the Bogan Roman, the Vegan Roman, the Homosexual Roman?
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:48 pm
by Dirko
Quichey wrote:Homosexual Roman?
That one probably suits you best Quichey

Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:55 pm
by Darth Vader
Quichey wrote:Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
I just squandered 20 seconds and still can't see any flaws. I'm not saying there aren't any there, I just cant see them - sorry.
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:11 pm
by Q.
Darth Vader wrote:Quichey wrote:Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
I just squandered 20 seconds and still can't see any flaws. I'm not saying there aren't any there, I just cant see them - sorry.
Something along the lines of tarring a billion people with same brush. It's as absurd as suggesting you and I are genocidal maniacs because our leaders invaded countries and killed 100,000 civilians in the process.
Most Muslims I know here in Adelaide drink beer and eat lamb too ya know.
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:19 pm
by Darth Vader
Quichey wrote:Darth Vader wrote:Quichey wrote:Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
I just squandered 20 seconds and still can't see any flaws. I'm not saying there aren't any there, I just cant see them - sorry.
Something along the lines of tarring a billion people with same brush. It's as absurd as suggesting you and I are genocidal maniacs because our leaders invaded countries and killed 100,000 civilians in the process.
Most Muslims I know here in Adelaide drink beer and eat lamb too ya know.
Are they learning to fly?
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:21 pm
by interested observer
Quichey wrote:Darth Vader wrote:Quichey wrote:Think logically for a second fellas and recognise the flaws in your statements.
I just squandered 20 seconds and still can't see any flaws. I'm not saying there aren't any there, I just cant see them - sorry.
Something along the lines of tarring a billion people with same brush. It's as absurd as suggesting you and I are genocidal maniacs because our leaders invaded countries and killed 100,000 civilians in the process.
Most Muslims I know here in Adelaide drink beer and eat lamb too ya know.
I don't think the context of the message is tarring all at all.
To me it is aimed at selected group who want their own beliefs seen and heard yet deny to accept others and in fact then claim to be discriminated against..
"We will accept your beliefs without question.
All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in peaceful harmony with us.
This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, AND OUR LIFESTYLE."
And you are right, there are many that embrace both cultures here..
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:22 pm
by mick
I've known a lot of muslims in my time as a university teacher, in general I've found them to be decent likeable people, the same also applies to Buddhists and Jews I have known. I think the vast majority of muslims are like the vast majority of Australians they'll volunteer Islam as their religion but only attend the mosque a few times a year. Those who are deeply religious bother me, but my fear of deeply religious people extends beyond muslims. Unfortunately too many people use religion to justify crimes against humanity. In an ideal society we would all be atheists...my favourite "religion" ...did someone mention vegans? I really hate those finicky bastards

Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:30 pm
by Darth Vader
nice work Mick. Well said
Re: Prime Minister of France Monsieur Fillon..

Posted:
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:48 pm
by Gozu
mick wrote:I've known a lot of muslims in my time as a university teacher, in general I've found them to be decent likeable people, the same also applies to Buddhists and Jews I have known. I think the vast majority of muslims are like the vast majority of Australians they'll volunteer Islam as their religion but only attend the mosque a few times a year. Those who are deeply religious bother me, but my fear of deeply religious people extends beyond muslims. Unfortunately too many people use religion to justify crimes against humanity. In an ideal society we would all be atheists...my favourite "religion" ...did someone mention vegans? I really hate those finicky bastards

Wow I'm in total agreeance with mick (excluding the anti-vegans bit, which I'm not either btw).
Uni teacher hey? I knew you were a closet lefty, mick
