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On reading further details of the Northern suburbs "child abuse/neglect case" and noting that the men involved in this case can't be named as it serves to protect the kids involved, I say "bullsh*t!

These ar$eholes deserve to have their photos smeared across every available Australian tabloid in the hope they are recognised for evermore for the pain and anguish they have put these kids through. And to think they have all pleaded "not guilty" to all charges adds insult to injury.

If the court system doesn't soon realise that certain archaic 19th century laws are only adding to the problem, then these morons will always have the last laugh.

Give them 12 months of exactly the same treatment and see how they cope, you might get a shock.

here here

And to add to that, the 'youths' who commit serious crime like the murder of the elderly Callington lady last week should also be named and shamed and given tougher sentences.

Have accountable members of society ... Surely you jest?

(Obviously I agree with you both, there rarely seems enough "time for the crime", both in the literal sense and non-literally)

When it is proven beyond reasonable doubt and a court of law has proclaimed them guilty then yes they should be named but until then they have every right to be protected.

Strawb wrote:When it is proven beyond reasonable doubt and a court of law has proclaimed them guilty then yes they should be named but until then they have every right to be protected.

Obviously I concur with the "innocent until proven guilty" concept but................. the female perpatrator of this same hideous crime who was found guilty and locked away for a minimal term, has avoided the "name & shame" because the do-gooders of the world have said so!

Stick a photo of the "thing"(does not deserve to be called 'female') on every available lamp post in the hope that she can be mocked on release. Sometimes I think the old way of "stoning" might get better results than we currently see, although I realise we have moved on .. marginally
In 15 years time or less, who is to say these unfortunate kids won't become the next social outcasts as a result of this?
We are not solving problems with this issue, only creating more of them by being politically correct and "soft" on the criminals.

aceman wrote:

Strawb wrote:When it is proven beyond reasonable doubt and a court of law has proclaimed them guilty then yes they should be named but until then they have every right to be protected.

Obviously I concur with the "innocent until proven guilty" concept but................. the female perpatrator of this same hideous crime who was found guilty and locked away for a minimal term, has avoided the "name & shame" because the do-gooders of the world have said so!

Stick a photo of the "thing"(does not deserve to be called 'female') on every available lamp post in the hope that she can be mocked on release. Sometimes I think the old way of "stoning" might get better results than we currently see, although I realise we have moved on .. marginally
In 15 years time or less, who is to say these unfortunate kids won't become the next social outcasts as a result of this?
We are not solving problems with this issue, only creating more of them by being politically correct and "soft" on the criminals.

On her I agree Name them in that case because the public have a right to know. She got off easy for what she did to her kids. Some people should not be allowed to have kids she is one of them.

aceman wrote:On reading further details of the Northern suburbs "child abuse/neglect case" and noting that the men involved in this case can't be named as it serves to protect the kids involved, I say "bullsh*t!

These ar$eholes deserve to have their photos smeared across every available Australian tabloid in the hope they are recognised for evermore for the pain and anguish they have put these kids through. And to think they have all pleaded "not guilty" to all charges adds insult to injury.

If the court system doesn't soon realise that certain archaic 19th century laws are only adding to the problem, then these morons will always have the last laugh.

Give them 12 months of exactly the same treatment and see how they cope, you might get a shock.

They'd be smeared all over the newspapers if they were footballers.

If they were Fev.

I believe the names have been supressed in this case to protect the identies of the children, which is fair enough. They should always come first and if it means we don't know the names of the idiots that did this then so be it.

Choccies wrote:here here

And to add to that, the 'youths' who commit serious crime like the murder of the elderly Callington lady last week should also be named and shamed and given tougher sentences.

Are you calling your dog?

cennals05 wrote:I believe the names have been supressed in this case to protect the identies of the children, which is fair enough. They should always come first and if it means we don't know the names of the idiots that did this then so be it.

No Cennals, they should only be named in the obituaries...

About 48 hours after the offence.

The press tried naming and shaming here a few years ago.

It was a disaster because people are idiots...the lynch mob mentality took over and there were cases of completely innocent people/families having to be given police protection and moved just because a newspaper got the name or address wrong or some idiot thought they looked a little bit like a photo in the newspaper and then stirred up a mob to attack the house etc.

Of course some of those named were guilty but it also led to their other innocent family members including kids coming under attack.

I'm all for increasing the gaol time and although against the death penalty I'd bring back hard labour (chain gang style) but not naming and shaming cos once someone is falsely accused no amount of apologies is likely to put their life back the way it was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_th ... e_campaign

Anti-paedophile campaign

The paper began a controversial campaign to name and shame alleged paedophiles in 2000 following the abduction and murder of Sarah Payne. The paper's decision led to angry mobs terrorising those they suspected of being child sex offenders,[8] which included several cases of mistaken identity, including one instance where a paediatrician had her house vandalised[9] and another where a man was confronted because he had a neck brace similar to one a paedophile was wearing when pictured.[10][11] The campaign was labelled "grossly irresponsible" journalism by the then Chief Constable of Gloucestershire, Tony Butler.[12] The paper also campaigns for the introduction of 'Sarah's Law' to allow public access to the Sex Offenders Register.

Regards
JAS

If you want to see just how 'soft' our court outcomes are, have a peep at some of these.

http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/index.html

It makes you want to cry for some of them, the poor things are treated so harshly!

Jimmy_041 wrote:

Choccies wrote:here here

And to add to that, the 'youths' who commit serious crime like the murder of the elderly Callington lady last week should also be named and shamed and given tougher sentences.

Are you calling your dog?

I can never work out why people say that, surely it's not hard to work out the diff between hear and here.

Agree with the OP.

As more details come to light, the more disturbing the situation gets.

cennals05 wrote:I believe the names have been supressed in this case to protect the identies of the children, which is fair enough. They should always come first and if it means we don't know the names of the idiots that did this then so be it.

Correct

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5947153796

Classy bunch.

Two...yep...

Two Bullets is what this bitch deserves.....

Bloody disgrace this mole gets to have three square meals a day whilst she's locked away. Feed the bitch nothing....

As for the blokes, they deserve the exact same treatment. Gutless turd bastards the lot of 'em.

Bloody disgrace these scum bags get what they get in jail, which they never gave their kids, clean water, food, and a bed.

Hope they drop the soap in the showers.....

The worse thing, is they will be in protective custody for their entire sentence, due to the fact that fellow prisoners don't take too kindly towards offences involving children.

Fortunately there has been known instances of security procedures not being properly followed so justice does take it course....