Page 1 of 1

Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:39 am
by dinglinga
Conversation last night with some people

is it really the start of a new decade?? does it start 2010 or 2011

if 2011 then why have we decided on player of the decade ??? etc

food for thought

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:40 am
by Blacky
count to ten you will answer your own question

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:52 am
by A Mum
I ask the same question dingalinga !

Yesterday I started writting up a thread about the end of a decade and all that has happened, and then I thought - Hang on - it's only the end of 2009 - is that really the end of a decade ?? :?

So I didn't post it....

But then ....

Last night on Channel 9 they did this whole end of a decade hour show - which was really really good.

So I'm pressuming that yes it is definitely and officially the end of a decade....lol

O:)

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:55 am
by Dirko
2000 = 1
2001 = 2
2002 = 3
2003 = 4
2004 = 5
2005 = 6
2006 = 7
2007 = 8
2008 = 9
2009 = 10
10 = Decade !

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:17 am
by am Bays
SJABC wrote:2000 = 1
2001 = 2
2002 = 3
2003 = 4
2004 = 5
2005 = 6
2006 = 7
2007 = 8
2008 = 9
2009 = 10
10 = Decade !


The first year was year one, not year zero. Ergo the first decade finished at the end of year 10, the 2nd decade satrted in year 11 and finished at the end of year 20. The first year of the 201st decade was 2001, it will finish in 2010.

Whilst I wasn't there but Psyber might have been ;) , The catch phrase on January 1, 1901 was a new new country for a new century when Australa was federated, i.e a country.

By claiming the end of the decade as 2009 the media are just giving themselves two years to do reviews of the decade, teams of the decade, images of the decade etc, which keeps us occupied in deceives people like A Mum on new years Eave in the ninth year of any particular decade.

So, in short we still have another year to go of the 201st decade AD.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:38 am
by bayman
when we are born we are 1 month old 2 months old etc etc but we are in our first year, which to me means every decade starts off on the year ending in a 0

ie

0 = first year
1 = 2nd year
2 = 3rd year
3 = 4th year
4 = 5th year
5 = 6th year
6 = 7th year
7 = 8th year
8 = 9th year
9 = 10th year

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:33 pm
by Psyber
My view of counting goes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - making 2001 to 2010 the decade
There was never a year zero - Years 1 to 10 have to be the first decade, and 11 to 20 the second.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:39 pm
by bayman
if you blokes are right, why did they start the new century (remember the milleninum bug etc) in the year 2000 ? if the new century started in 2000 so surely this next decade starts in 2010 (today)


so lets go by centuries

1800-1899 (100 years)
1900-1999 (100 years)
2000-2099 (100 years)

i wish there was some professor out there to explain, because i understand what you are saying but believe you have got it wrong on this occasion

go back to the start of the 'AD' calendar year 0 to year 99 etc etc otherwise you'd have year 0 'AD' to 100 'AD' (101 YEARS)

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:36 pm
by GWW
bayman wrote:when we are born we are 1 month old 2 months old etc etc but we are in our first year, which to me means every decade starts off on the year ending in a 0

ie

0 = first year
1 = 2nd year
2 = 3rd year
3 = 4th year
4 = 5th year
5 = 6th year
6 = 7th year
7 = 8th year
8 = 9th year
9 = 10th year


Someone born isn't 1 until the end of their first year, and as such isn't 10 until the end of their 10th year.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:21 pm
by Footy Chick
am Bays wrote:
SJABC wrote:2000 = 1
2001 = 2
2002 = 3
2003 = 4
2004 = 5
2005 = 6
2006 = 7
2007 = 8
2008 = 9
2009 = 10
10 = Decade !


The first year was year one, not year zero. Ergo the first decade finished at the end of year 10, the 2nd decade satrted in year 11 and finished at the end of year 20. The first year of the 201st decade was 2001, it will finish in 2010.

Whilst I wasn't there but Psyber might have been ;) , The catch phrase on January 1, 1901 was a new new country for a new century when Australa was federated, i.e a country.

By claiming the end of the decade as 2009 the media are just giving themselves two years to do reviews of the decade, teams of the decade, images of the decade etc, which keeps us occupied in deceives people like A Mum on new years Eave in the ninth year of any particular decade.

So, in short we still have another year to go of the 201st decade AD.



Actually, the first year was 0 AD and recognised the 1st month AD, the 6th month AD etc... so even though it was 2009 it was actually the 10th year of the decade.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:42 pm
by JAS
Only person that could say for sure is probably Pope Gregory...it's his calendar ;)

Regards
JAS

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:04 pm
by Hondo
am Bays and others are right. There's no such thing as a year zero.

When you are 1 month old you are in your "year 1". You turn 1 at the end of "year 1" (365 days of living) so you turn 10 at the end of year 10.

So, this decade officially ends 31 Dec 2010 just like the 1st decade ended 31 Dec 10.

Similarly the new milennium started 1 Jan 2001 and the last one ended 31 Dec 2000.

The problem is that we get attached to phrases like "80s" so we tend to think of official decades as say 1980-1989. Technically speaking, any 10 year span is a decade so you could argue for both and be sort of right.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:07 pm
by Cambridge Clarrie
hondo71 wrote:am Bays is right. There's no such thing as a year zero.

When you are 1 month old you are in your "year 1". You turn 1 at the end of "year 1" (365 days of living) so you turn 10 at the end of year 10.

So, this decade officially ends 31 Dec 2010 just like the 1st decade ended 31 Dec 10.

Similarly the new milennium started 1 Jan 2001 and the last one ended 31 Dec 2000.

The problem is that we get attached to phrases like "80s" so we tend to think of official decades as say 1980-1989. Technically speaking, any 10 year span is a decade so you could argue for both and be sort of right.


Spot on!

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:10 pm
by Hondo
Footy Chick wrote:Actually, the first year was 0 AD and recognised the 1st month AD, the 6th month AD etc... so even though it was 2009 it was actually the 10th year of the decade.


Day 1 AD would have been written as 01/01/01 if that's the format they used then. 01 being the first year.

In old terms today we'd be saying 2009 years + 1 month AD. Instead we just say we are now in year 2010 and this 2010th year ends 31 Dec 2010.

Another way to look at it - if you were born 1 June 2000 you don't turn 10 until 1 June 2010.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:12 am
by Psyber
bayman wrote:if you blokes are right, why did they start the new century (remember the milleninum bug etc) in the year 2000 ? if the new century started in 2000 so surely this next decade starts in 2010 (today)
Because the whole thing was about computers which use 0 as the first number instead of as an add on to the other digits, and the media wanted to hype it up to sell papers that year not next year.
There was no year 0 AD - it started with 1 AD, and if you use another cultures calendar the same applies.
It was only in the digital age the idea of starting counting from zero arrived.
Zero itself was not used as a numeral till late in the first millennium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero
The concept of zero as a number and not merely a symbol for separation is attributed to India where by the 9th century CE practical calculations were carried out using zero, which was treated like any other number, even in case of division.

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:31 pm
by Dog_ger
Is 1950 part of the 40's...? :shock:

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:01 pm
by Rik E Boy
Not this shit again LOL.

regards,

REB

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:07 pm
by A Mum
Rik E Boy wrote:Not this **** again LOL.

regards,

REB


What?
Comes around about every 10 years :lol:

Re: Happy New Year but is it the start of a new decade

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:15 pm
by Rik E Boy
A Mum wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Not this **** again LOL.

regards,

REB


What?
Comes around about every 10 years :lol:


Bollocks. It's the eternal riddle of I don't give a 5hit. 8)

regards,

REB