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All talk in here as it was beginning to shit the shits thread...

Booney wrote:All talk in here as it was beginning to s***t the shits thread...

haha, just my point...

carrying on...

Booney wrote:

nuggety goodness wrote:

Booney wrote:
Well I find that hard to believe.

Perhaps the whole "God" story was conjured up over a few home made reds?

maybe, and i guess that was brewed by our ancient ancestor Monkey-Boy or maybe the primordial soup that we came from was actually red wine... this could go on for a while...

the thing is we all have our own 'belief' mine is in God and yours are in Evolution, ultimately we will all stick to that belief
until something significant happens/changes.

Like scientific research that dates fossils or God coming down and talking to us, whichever comes first. Sure, I'll go with that.

carbon dating... ah yes, where the soil is dated by the contents of it and the contents are dated by the soil it is found in... and actually God has come down and spoken to us (many generations ago but it has happened...)

nuggety goodness wrote:
carbon dating... ah yes, where the soil is dated by the contents of it and the contents are dated by the soil it is found in...
and actually God has come down and spoken to us (many generations ago but it has happened...)

That's a myth, not fact.

Booney wrote:

nuggety goodness wrote:
carbon dating... ah yes, where the soil is dated by the contents of it and the contents are dated by the soil it is found in...
and actually God has come down and spoken to us (many generations ago but it has happened...)

That's a myth, not fact.

do you believe history books?

I'm not going to waste my short time on Earth worshipping any Diety that allowed the Holocaust. If ever Christ was going to return, it should have been then. If there is a higher power than man, then man's ultimate inhummanity to man should have been stopped with untold light being shone on them (us) all. Instead the killing and the darkness went on.

NO SALE

regards,

REB

I do, yes. History books dont tell the same story in umpteen different versions though, do they?

We could go on like this forever, well, not forever, but you know.

The basis of my non-belief is there is too much pain/sorrow in this world and if there is anyone taking care of us he/she is doing a crap job.

Rik E Boy wrote:I'm not going to waste my short time on Earth worshipping any Diety that allowed the Holocaust. If ever Christ was going to return, it should have been then. If there is a higher power than man, then man's ultimate inhummanity to man should have been stopped with untold light being shone on them (us) all. Instead the killing and the darkness went on.

NO SALE

regards,

REB

and it's only going to get worse REB... just you wait...

sometimes it seems wrong for God to let us harm eachother and ourselves but ultimately it is us humans to blame, not God. the decisions that we make send us on a path that God isn't going to just stop for us...

So God saved you then?

Booney wrote:I do, yes. History books dont tell the same story in umpteen different versions though, do they?

We could go on like this forever, well, not forever, but you know.

The basis of my non-belief is there is too much pain/sorrow in this world and if there is anyone taking care of us he/she is doing a crap job.

understandably, as i just said to REB, God has given us responsibility to look after ourselves, He has not caused the pain and sorrow etc, we have by our own decisions...

Booney wrote:So God saved you then?

yes, i have been saved, but that doesn't mean i am protected from life...

So where is the guidance then?

Bottom line, I'm not spending all my life preparing for what might happen when I die.

nuggety goodness wrote:

Booney wrote:So God saved you then?

yes, i have been saved, but that doesn't mean i am protected from life...

What were you saved from?

Booney wrote:So where is the guidance then?

Bottom line, I'm not spending all my life preparing for what might happen when I die.

the guidance comes when you have a right relationship with God. Sin prevents that.

once you have experienced God it all changes, like i said before we will all stick to our comfortable belief until something happens/changes...

nuggety goodness wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:I'm not going to waste my short time on Earth worshipping any Diety that allowed the Holocaust. If ever Christ was going to return, it should have been then. If there is a higher power than man, then man's ultimate inhummanity to man should have been stopped with untold light being shone on them (us) all. Instead the killing and the darkness went on.

NO SALE

regards,

REB

and it's only going to get worse REB... just you wait...

sometimes it seems wrong for God to let us harm eachother and ourselves but ultimately it is us humans to blame, not God. the decisions that we make send us on a path that God isn't going to just stop for us...

Ha ha. You let this bloke get off scott free. He's all powerful but it's not his fault. He is all knowing but it's not his fault. If he is going to forgive Hitler and Stalin I don't think I'll be giving up my once a week Sunday morning sleep-in to listen to some pede priest who may or may not have spent the morning rogering an altar boy.

We all take comfort where we can find it so it's all good. But don't knock on my door with a bible in your hand because I'm not coming into your Church with a copy of Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast.

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:

nuggety goodness wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:I'm not going to waste my short time on Earth worshipping any Diety that allowed the Holocaust. If ever Christ was going to return, it should have been then. If there is a higher power than man, then man's ultimate inhummanity to man should have been stopped with untold light being shone on them (us) all. Instead the killing and the darkness went on.

NO SALE

regards,

REB

and it's only going to get worse REB... just you wait...

sometimes it seems wrong for God to let us harm eachother and ourselves but ultimately it is us humans to blame, not God. the decisions that we make send us on a path that God isn't going to just stop for us...

Ha ha. You let this bloke get off scott free. He's all powerful but it's not his fault. He is all knowing but it's not his fault. If he is going to forgive Hitler and Stalin I don't think I'll be giving up my once a week Sunday morning sleep-in to listen to some pede priest who may or may not have spent the morning rogering an altar boy.

We all take comfort where we can find it so it's all good. But don't knock on my door with a bible in your hand because I'm not coming into your Church with a copy of Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast.

regards,

REB

This is not God's system REB.

He created the earth, but he hasn't been running it for a while.

That's the simplest way I can put it.

I can put it in simple terms as well 'bloody convenient'.

regards,

REB

Lol. Fair enough.

silicone skyline wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:

nuggety goodness wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:I'm not going to waste my short time on Earth worshipping any Diety that allowed the Holocaust. If ever Christ was going to return, it should have been then. If there is a higher power than man, then man's ultimate inhummanity to man should have been stopped with untold light being shone on them (us) all. Instead the killing and the darkness went on.

NO SALE

regards,

REB

and it's only going to get worse REB... just you wait...

sometimes it seems wrong for God to let us harm eachother and ourselves but ultimately it is us humans to blame, not God. the decisions that we make send us on a path that God isn't going to just stop for us...

Ha ha. You let this bloke get off scott free. He's all powerful but it's not his fault. He is all knowing but it's not his fault. If he is going to forgive Hitler and Stalin I don't think I'll be giving up my once a week Sunday morning sleep-in to listen to some pede priest who may or may not have spent the morning rogering an altar boy.

We all take comfort where we can find it so it's all good. But don't knock on my door with a bible in your hand because I'm not coming into your Church with a copy of Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast.

regards,

REB

This is not God's system REB.

He created the earth, but he hasn't been running it for a while.

That's the simplest way I can put it.

And it's pretty well put SS

nuggety goodness wrote:
once you have experienced God it all changes, like i said before we will all stick to our comfortable belief until something happens/changes...

Quite right Nuggety. Prisoners at Auschwicz walked into the place believing in God but those few that crawled out knew the answer. They stuck to their comfortable belief until something changed.

regards,

REB

So, it's kind of like Mrs.Boon getting me a carton of Thursday night but when I drink it, it's my fault I'm drunk?

Now I get it....