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why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:54 pm
by catchit
why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:59 pm
by Dogwatcher
Is this a serious question?

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:03 pm
by TEX07
My thoughts are why not pay any tax and when the government want to build a new road, school, hospital etc. Put an application into me, i will review the appliaction and decide how much if any of my money should go into a road i will never use, or a school i wont be sending my child to. Better yet, work for the dole. I would like one work for the dole person to come to my house do my washin, ironing, lawnmowing, cleaning etc. I will then pay them thier fornightly salary out of my tax money. :lol:

On a serious note, when i was on wages i used to hate getting taxed more for doing overtime. My opinion is and will always be that if you get extra money out of overtime then it was worth doing it but we should not be penalised for doing so.

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:04 pm
by GWW
Sounds like Pauline Hanson's economic policy, please explain :D

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:05 pm
by Booney
catchit wrote:why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???


Did that C7 show come to reality and the whole world has just passed out for 2 minutes 37 seconds?

Look whats happended.....

*screams and runs*

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:08 pm
by GWW
catchit wrote:why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???


..and here's your answer why this can't be done

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4665854.stm

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:28 pm
by catchit
Dogwatcher wrote:Is this a serious question?



i will be the first to admitt i am not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to this crap... but to me if i get taxed 300 dollars and that 300 goes on a street sign, why cant i keep that 300 and they just make it up.. at the end of the day the street sign will go up and i will be 300 better off.. which i might spend in a shopping centre or at the crazy horse, either way it will go to someone who needs it..

there has to be someone out there who is hearing me???
i dont think by us keeping all of what we earn is to much to ask for.. the only diff i can see out of it all is that there will be more paper used to create more bills.. how can anything else change??

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:35 pm
by Psyber
GWW wrote:
catchit wrote:why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???
..and here's your answer why this can't be done
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4665854.stm
Yes, if you just print more money the value of that in circulation has to go down.
As a result you get accelerated inflation, and the social unrest that follows.

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:48 pm
by catchit
Psyber wrote:
GWW wrote:
catchit wrote:why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???
..and here's your answer why this can't be done
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4665854.stm
Yes, if you just print more money the value of that in circulation has to go down.
As a result you get accelerated inflation, and the social unrest that follows.



the social unrest has always been in africa, so nothing has changed there.. so dont print the money to hand out just bump up the budget to counteract our taxes..

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:53 pm
by Choccies
Psyber wrote:
GWW wrote:
catchit wrote:why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???
..and here's your answer why this can't be done
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4665854.stm
Yes, if you just print more money the value of that in circulation has to go down.
As a result you get accelerated inflation, and the social unrest that follows.


and then you can pretend you live in Zimbabwe..... :roll:

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:56 pm
by Psyber
catchit wrote: the social unrest has always been in africa, so nothing has changed there.. so dont print the money to hand out just bump up the budget to counteract our taxes..
Are you know talking about increasing our already large deficit now?
It achieves the same end result - hyperinflation.

I agree much of Africa has chronic unrest, but hyperinflation in Germany post WWI led to such unrest that a once civilised country embraced National Socialism and all sorts of insanity that followed.
One of Hitler's first works was to tackle hyperinflation and he did that fairly well, which may partially explain why he was supported in other ideas of his later.
[I have a pre-WWII German postage stamp that cost "10 Billionen Deutschmark" at the time of release. It had been overstamped with the Swastika symbol and revalued at "10 Neumark".]

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:57 pm
by Cambridge Clarrie
I never knew Mugabe was active on this site and supported West Coast... :shock:

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:58 pm
by Dogwatcher
Got any of those art masterpieces hanging up in your home as well Psyb?
Hitler's boys did manage to get some of them out of Germany.

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:04 pm
by Gingernuts
catchit wrote:
Psyber wrote:
GWW wrote:
catchit wrote:why cant us hard working people get some joy for working.. how bloody hard would it be to not charge us any taxes and the money they need to do road works, new schools, and what ever else our money goes on can be made at the mint... that way more money can go back into the economy which makes for more jobs and for alot of happy workers not getting charged any tax..
thoughts anyone???
..and here's your answer why this can't be done
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4665854.stm
Yes, if you just print more money the value of that in circulation has to go down.
As a result you get accelerated inflation, and the social unrest that follows.



the social unrest has always been in africa, so nothing has changed there.. so dont print the money to hand out just bump up the budget to counteract our taxes..


It's called Hyperinflation - the more money you print, the less it is worth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

If my memory of my yr 12 modern history is correct, this was one of the major reasons the Nazi's ascended to power in the 20's/30's in Germany. Some bright spark came up with the idea of printing more money to combat the financial difficulty caused by the penalties inflicted by the League of Nations after WW1.

Pretty soon people were using wheelbarrows full of cash just to buy a loaf of bread. People were not happy about using their whole life savings just to purchase loaf of bread = little man with dodgy moustache all of a sudden sounds like a very sensible bloke, and the rest, as they say, is history.

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:05 pm
by Psyber
Dogwatcher wrote:Got any of those art masterpieces hanging up in your home as well Psyb?
Hitler's boys did manage to get some of them out of Germany.
No, just a few stamps some older relatives brought back and gave my older sister when she was young. ;)
I did have a Wehrmarcht helmet at one time but that is long gone.
The only painting of any value is a John Tiplady, and there is a 1907 vintage violin by French maker, Paul Baily.
[Nothing of huge value - the violin might bring about 5000 GBP in the UK, but nothing like that here.]

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:08 pm
by Gingernuts
You beat me too it Psyber!

Here is the photo that stuck in my head when learning about it:

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:10 pm
by Dogwatcher
Yes, who says our teachers don't teach us anything.
The first thing I thought of when reading this thread was the Weimar Republic's financial crisis, which had the long term result of causing World War II.

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:12 pm
by catchit
it seems i am out numbered on this one.. i stiil cant see why if we didnt pay tax we would be walking around with wheelbarrows of cash... but nevermind i will just go back to driving my truck and pay the goverment the right for letting me do that..

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:15 pm
by GWW
catchit wrote:it seems i am out numbered on this one.. i stiil cant see why if we didnt pay tax we would be walking around with wheelbarrows of cash... but nevermind i will just go back to driving my truck and pay the goverment the right for letting me do that..


You might want to go and live in Dubai, with the amount of Oil Reserves there, there's very little or no Income Tax paid by the residents.

Re: why cant this happen????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:18 pm
by Bum Crack
catchit wrote:it seems i am out numbered on this one.. i stiil cant see why if we didnt pay tax we would be walking around with wheelbarrows of cash... but nevermind i will just go back to driving my truck and pay the goverment the right for letting me do that..

:lol: :lol: