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Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:08 pm
by leftlegger
Is any one else worried about how they are are rushing ahead with this despite the many experts' repots that it could ruin the gulf?
I know there is a water crisis, but I have a bad feeling about this going ahead.

What does everyone else think.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:13 pm
by Booney
I think if I can win the order for the component of the project that my company can offer up my boss will be very happy and I might play a bit of golf over the next few months....! Bring . It. On.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:17 pm
by Q.
leftlegger wrote:Is any one else worried about how they are are rushing ahead with this despite the many experts' repots that it could ruin the gulf?
I know there is a water crisis, but I have a bad feeling about this going ahead.

What does everyone else think.


I too think there could be massive implications for the marine ecology (although I am no expert). Why are they so readily ignoring this?

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:34 pm
by Dirko
Quichey wrote:Why are they so readily ignoring this?


Since when has Rann listened to anything, apart from his annoying nasal twang ?

Can't understand for the life of me how we need to go down this path, when there's so much water running around after rain getting flushed out to sea. Recycling storm water would be the best option, but that sounds too boring for Rann's CV.

An absolute waste of money and time....

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:37 pm
by Mickyj
Looking at the other side of this .The liberals and their experts keep telling us Rainwater from run off and grey water .
I for one don't know where the rainwater is coming from as we aren't getting much falling from above.

I think if the media had its way whoever was doing the plant they would be damned for building one .and they would be damned for not building one .

Surely there can not be enough storm water in a drought !!
Not saying the govt is correct and the liberals aren't.
But as someone who knows nothing looking from my point who is more wrong ?

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:46 pm
by Bully
But it seems its Rann or no one in S.A. gov at the mmoment. Dont think Smith is ready to run the state?

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:59 pm
by Q.
Bulldog wrote:But it seems its Rann or no one in S.A. gov at the mmoment. Dont think Smith is ready to run the state?


It's like voting for either a turd sandwich or a douche :lol:

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:02 pm
by Bully
good point. Not sure on the topic, might be good in ways of when its not raining, ( which it doesnt ) alot now in Adelaide, but yes could destroy coast line and marine. Bit of a tough topic to debate about. My vote is they should just do it and see what happens. If they dont do it and the city runs outa water in like 5 years time they might look back at it and say why didnt we?

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:03 pm
by leftlegger
Personally I dont think the media report enough about the detrimental effect this will have on the gulf......save maybe the Independent Weekly and the Southern Messenger.
I dont think the Govt has explored water harvesting thoroghly enough.

I'd like to think my son will have the opportunity to swim, fish & surf as we do now for the rest of his life.
Lets hope Rann doesnt have "South Australian lifestyle destroyer" on his CV by the time he's finished.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:10 pm
by Hondo
From what I hear there's some very serious concerns about our short term water supply - I assume they wouldn't air this publicly to avoid a panic

If they don't build it and we run dry the Govt will be run out of town

Do they wait out the drought and pray or do something about guaranteeing the water supply? I am not expert on this stuff to know for sure TBH.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:19 pm
by leftlegger
Yeah,
some good discussion here.

I'm thinking that Port Stanvac (or anywhere inside the gulf) is not the best spot to have it.
It was just the most convenient at the time.

What leaves a bitter taste in my mouth is how they have dismissed all the negative reports on its impact to our coastline.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:20 pm
by Booney
These relavant reports, have you got a copy or have you had a chance to review them?

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:42 pm
by Dog_ger
No one cares about us,

Havent you noticed the Lower Reaches of the River Murray... :shock: :shock:

Someone should be HUNG

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:26 pm
by Punk Rooster
Storm Water Harvesting is the option I'd like the Government to develop.
Pump the water through a series of purifiers, back up into our reservoirs, where nature can take it's course.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:09 pm
by Mickyj
Punk Rooster wrote:Storm Water Harvesting is the option I'd like the Government to develop.
Pump the water through a series of purifiers, back up into our reservoirs, where nature can take it's course.


Where is this storm water every one is talking about ?(not looking for a fight how do u harvest what doesn't fall from the skies)
Havent seen much rain in Adelaide in how long ?
The last shower we had here the top couple of millimetres of soil/sand was damp .

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:24 pm
by spell_check
Mickyj wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Storm Water Harvesting is the option I'd like the Government to develop.
Pump the water through a series of purifiers, back up into our reservoirs, where nature can take it's course.


Where is this storm water every one is talking about ?(not looking for a fight how do u harvest what doesn't fall from the skies)
Havent seen much rain in Adelaide in how long ?
The last shower we had here the top couple of millimetres of soil/sand was damp .


I guess it depends on the capacity of the system, but I don't think it takes a lot of rain to get an adequate supply. Especially if the system is extensive. And if we do get a wet winter (or spring) that will be more for it.

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:24 pm
by Punk Rooster
Mickyj wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Storm Water Harvesting is the option I'd like the Government to develop.
Pump the water through a series of purifiers, back up into our reservoirs, where nature can take it's course.


Where is this storm water every one is talking about ?(not looking for a fight how do u harvest what doesn't fall from the skies)
Havent seen much rain in Adelaide in how long ?
The last shower we had here the top couple of millimetres of soil/sand was damp .

what little that does fall from the sky & ends up out at sea is WASTED.
If we harvesetd storm water in a bad year, & it was "x gigalitres", then that's still "x gigalitres" more than we currently harvest.
The Government won't let you catch all the rain on your roof- you must let 50% (?) out into the street, to be washed down the drains & out to sea...
It would make a difference if we harvested all water that fell from the sky- whether off rooves into tanks, caught & pumped back up to reservoirs etc.
It makes more sense to me than a de-sal plant

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:25 pm
by Mickyj
Punk Rooster wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Storm Water Harvesting is the option I'd like the Government to develop.
Pump the water through a series of purifiers, back up into our reservoirs, where nature can take it's course.


Where is this storm water every one is talking about ?(not looking for a fight how do u harvest what doesn't fall from the skies)
Havent seen much rain in Adelaide in how long ?
The last shower we had here the top couple of millimetres of soil/sand was damp .

what little that does fall from the sky & ends up out at sea is WASTED.
If we harvesetd storm water in a bad year, & it was "x gigalitres", then that's still "x gigalitres" more than we currently harvest.
The Government won't let you catch all the rain on your roof- you must let 50% (?) out into the street, to be washed down the drains & out to sea...
It would make a difference if we harvested all water that fell from the sky- whether off rooves into tanks, caught & pumped back up to reservoirs etc.
It makes more sense to me than a de-sal plant


Fair enough just wondered

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:00 pm
by Hondo
Punk Rooster wrote:what little that does fall from the sky & ends up out at sea is WASTED.
If we harvesetd storm water in a bad year, & it was "x gigalitres", then that's still "x gigalitres" more than we currently harvest.
The Government won't let you catch all the rain on your roof- you must let 50% (?) out into the street, to be washed down the drains & out to sea...
It would make a difference if we harvested all water that fell from the sky- whether off rooves into tanks, caught & pumped back up to reservoirs etc.
It makes more sense to me than a de-sal plant


How much would all the infrastructure to capture and pump the storm water cost though? Would you be digging up half of Adelaide? Plus you are still putting your faith in the gods I don't know if that Govt would feel comfortable relying solely on mother nature.

In fact, I think they are looking at stormwater harvesting AND a desal plant. Not harvesting to the extent that we wouldn't need the desal plant as well however.

http://www.waterproofingadelaide.sa.gov.au/WPA/ProgressImplementation/report_card.htm

Re: Desalination Plant

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:04 am
by Punk Rooster
Honda,
Any infrastructure requires work- did they abandon Gallipoli Underpass, because they had to "dig up half of Anzac Hwy"?
We require real vision to avert a potential crisis in the future- maybe if we'd harvested stormwater during the (past) good years, our reservoirs may be at capacity now, & our reliance on the Murray less. Maybe those who also rely on the Murray (NSW & Vic) should be practising storm water harvesting too- back into the Murray &/or their own reservoirs.
The Murray requires a National approach, SA on it's own can't save it.