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What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:49 pm
by Gator-Aid
Just talking to an engineer working in Arnhem Land, he tells me the Alligator River, one of the smallest rivers in that area lets spill into the sea each & every second of the day,190 mega litres of fresh water. The Ord River lets go double that amount daily


How we could do with that down here, just a month of that would get us out of the sh^t

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:09 pm
by am Bays
There are three Alligator rivers so which one, the East, the South and the South East.

The power reqyuired to maintain teh pressure and subsequent flow of any pileline form either the NT or WA is enormous and would further compound the greenhouse problems affecting rain production down here. So I am not sure how viable it is.

Also you would want some pretty good filters inb teh pipe-line so none of your avatars cousins "slip" through teh system....

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:45 pm
by Gator-Aid
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:There are three Alligator rivers so which one, the East, the South and the South East.

The power reqyuired to maintain teh pressure and subsequent flow of any pileline form either the NT or WA is enormous and would further compound the greenhouse problems affecting rain production down here. So I am not sure how viable it is.

Also you would want some pretty good filters inb teh pipe-line so none of your avatars cousins "slip" through teh system....




I don't know, that wasn't mentioned. This guy's a pretty smart cooky, he's based at Maningrida and is the #1 engineer.
He reckons they could divert it to southwest Queensland in an open channel and into the Murray Darling and that would save the day. Wouldn't be a cheap excercise but better than SFA. Incidentally, my cousins have all lost their teeth.

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:08 pm
by SABRE
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Cheers Gator-Aid, now you’ve got me started.
It’s sickening isn’t it. When will we get a political leader with some vision.
There are 5 or so rivers feeding the Ord River which in turn haemorrhages with the monumentally, unbelievably huge Lake Argyle. This lake is many times the size of Sydney Harbour but is fresh, pure, crystal clean, unpolluted water. Every year billions of tonnes of this liquid gold just pour straight out into the Timor Sea. What we need down south wouldn’t put a dent in these volumes.

On the other side of Mt. King & Mt. Wells there are dozens more rivers that swell the Fitzroy every wet season, but Lake Argyle is right beside the N.T. / W.A. border. Imagine a pipeline built all the way down the WA border (apart from a split off to Uluru & Alice Springs) to a ‘T’ junction at Eucla on the WA / SA border. From here we could share a 50/50 split with WA which would supply regional centres along the way to Perth & Adelaide.

The alternative to building beside the Eyre Highway would be to only come down the border as far as Deakin then the pipeline could be built using the Trans Australian Railway line. No disruption to road traffic & sidings for the trains.
The Mannum – Whyalla pipeline section is already there. Has been since 1944.

Surely with 2009 technology we can complete the rest. Holders of BHP Billiton shares will salivate at the thought of Government money being injected into an economy stimulating public work of such dimensions. Could we achieve near zero unemployment? Look what the Snowy Mountains Scheme achieved for this country. I can’t see much in the way of earthworks being involved due to the mostly flat landscape. Certainly nothing insurmountable and once laid, other than basic maintenance, there should be little further cost as all pumps could be solar powered.

Just think, South Australia, Western Australia & N.T. waterproofed forever !

Let’s face it, the Eastern States have destroyed the Murray / Darling basin & they just don’t give a stuff about us. So perhaps we’ve got to look after ourselves & start looking west, not east, for our salvation. Then we can think about supplying what we (wee?) don’t need to NSW & Victoria. At a ‘fair’ price of course.

Make dollars & sense !
=))
KEKKA FOR KING.

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:32 pm
by Footy Chick
There seem to be a few people up North who are of the opinion that places like little ol' Darwin will experience a boom in population in the next 20 - 30 years, from all the people leaving places like SA and WA to live there as there will be no water left.

They definitely have a point.

No water restrictions in the NT.... :shock:

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:56 pm
by Dutchy
We let what rain we get run out to sea also.....and then spend millions to get it back :roll:

Looking forward to seeing what rain looks like again in a couple of weeks

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:59 pm
by Footy Chick
You going to Darwin too huh? :lol:

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:00 pm
by Dutchy
Footy Chick wrote:You going to Darwin too huh? :lol:


Yeah after the long weekend, via Alice unfortuantely

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:08 pm
by Footy Chick
Yes, how unfortunate, was there for the first time on Thursday, won't be in a hurry to go back either..

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:10 pm
by FlyingHigh
Dutchy wrote:We let what rain we get run out to sea also.....and then spend millions to get it back :roll:

Looking forward to seeing what rain looks like again in a couple of weeks


Yeah, we've been through this on another thread.

Apparently it would require a pumping station every 3kms to get the required flow, and it would have to be all of 3000km's.

Anyone read the article on Colin Pitman in the sa weekend magazine?

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:13 pm
by Footy Chick
While it seems like an awful lot of money to spend now on a system like this, better prepare now before it's too late?

The situation isn't going to get any better, it'll just get worse.

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:19 pm
by Punk Rooster
FlyingHigh wrote:
Dutchy wrote:We let what rain we get run out to sea also.....and then spend millions to get it back :roll:

Looking forward to seeing what rain looks like again in a couple of weeks


Yeah, we've been through this on another thread.

Apparently it would require a pumping station every 3kms to get the required flow, and it would have to be all of 3000km's.

Anyone read the article on Colin Pitman in the sa weekend magazine?

the Romans made use of Aquaducts....

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:27 pm
by FlyingHigh
Footy Chick wrote:While it seems like an awful lot of money to spend now on a system like this, better prepare now before it's too late?

The situation isn't going to get any better, it'll just get worse.


And the continual maintenance costs?

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:34 pm
by TroyGFC
I know a company that can provide the pumps so I keep in employment anyway!! $ :D $

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:35 pm
by Footy Chick
good point, but I guess Im looking at it from the point of view that SA might be un-inhabitable in 50-100 years, and a de-salinisation plant will be useless if there is nothing to de-salinise.

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:02 pm
by Pseudo
Punk Rooster wrote:the Romans made use of Aquaducts....


Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

And the sanitation.

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Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:08 am
by Booney
Footy Chick wrote:good point, but I guess Im looking at it from the point of view that SA might be un-inhabitable in 50-100 years, and a de-salinisation plant will be useless if there is nothing to de-salinise.


Is the Gulf going dry? :shock:

Sweet, be able to drive straight across to Edithburgh.. :lol:

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:17 am
by Psyber
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:There are three Alligator rivers so which one, the East, the South and the South East.

The power reqyuired to maintain teh pressure and subsequent flow of any pileline form either the NT or WA is enormous and would further compound the greenhouse problems affecting rain production down here. So I am not sure how viable it is.

Also you would want some pretty good filters inb teh pipe-line so none of your avatars cousins "slip" through teh system....
Thorium Fission could provide the power until the Helium 3 fusion system is working....
Australia has plenty of Thorium and its waste has a shorter half-life and it is difficult to extract from the process materials to be used for bombs.
http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rp/2 ... 08rp11.htm
http://www.ga.gov.au/minerals/research/ ... /index.jsp
http://www.cavendishscience.org/bks/nuc/thrupdat.htm

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:38 am
by Gator-Aid
Psyber wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:There are three Alligator rivers so which one, the East, the South and the South East.

The power reqyuired to maintain teh pressure and subsequent flow of any pileline form either the NT or WA is enormous and would further compound the greenhouse problems affecting rain production down here. So I am not sure how viable it is.

Also you would want some pretty good filters inb teh pipe-line so none of your avatars cousins "slip" through teh system....
Thorium Fission could provide the power until the Helium 3 fusion system is working....
Australia has plenty of Thorium and its waste has a shorter half-life and it is difficult to extract from the process materials to be used for bombs.
http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rp/2 ... 08rp11.htm
http://www.ga.gov.au/minerals/research/ ... /index.jsp
http://www.cavendishscience.org/bks/nuc/thrupdat.htm


I'm glad I started this thread, only problem is Psyber, you've got me stuffed with all this scientific lingo, we need the water not the Nutty Professor that goes with it!
Keep it coming, it makes interesting reading even if we can't understand it.

Re: What a waste of water!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:41 am
by Gator-Aid
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:There are three Alligator rivers so which one, the East, the South and the South East.

The power reqyuired to maintain teh pressure and subsequent flow of any pileline form either the NT or WA is enormous and would further compound the greenhouse problems affecting rain production down here. So I am not sure how viable it is.

Also you would want some pretty good filters inb teh pipe-line so none of your avatars cousins "slip" through teh system....



Tassie, is this a new illness or disease like haemerroids or what?