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For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:21 pm
by Dog_ger
What do you think about the price of quality alcohol people...?

ANOTHER REVENUE TAX

What will this FIX..? :partyman:

:drinkers: :drinkers:

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:23 pm
by godoubleblues
probably wont fix much

as long as home brew supplies dont go up I will be happy :D

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:27 pm
by Dog_ger
Save the Murray TAX.....

All SA'ers pay this tax.....

I don't think it worked...? :shock:

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:29 pm
by Dog_ger
Emergency services levy...?

WE ARE OVER TAXED

Now there is something about a $6.00/week tax to cover the cost of maternity leave...?

FFS......

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:33 pm
by Dog_ger
Speed Cameras.....

Red light cameras....

Parking tickets...

are there anymore I forgot..

Driving too fast.

Driving too slow

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:51 pm
by brod
Dog_ger wrote:Emergency services levy...?

WE ARE OVER TAXED

Now there is something about a $6.00/week tax to cover the cost of maternity leave...?

FFS......


Dont think that it is THAT high, but we get your drift

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:55 pm
by Pseudo
Tax on alcohol is possibly the biggest joke perpetrated by the former Howard government.

When the GST was brought in it was supposed to replace all those hidden sales taxes and whatnot on everything. Since luxury items like BEER and TABS already had the ar$e taxed off them, they should have tumbled in price when the GST took effect.

The government of the day got around this by increasing the alcohol excise. The hair-splitting spin-doctors would claim that excise ain't a tax. To which I say: bulldust. A turd by any other name smells just as rotten. The government LIED to us about their GST.

It's enough to drive a bloke to drink....

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:24 pm
by evans01
wont stop people drinkin..................

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:00 pm
by Snaggletooth Tiger
It's only 'Binge Drinking' if you stop!

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:18 pm
by Psyber
Pseudo wrote:Tax on alcohol is possibly the biggest joke perpetrated by the former Howard government.
When the GST was brought in it was supposed to replace all those hidden sales taxes and whatnot on everything. Since luxury items like BEER and TABS already had the ar$e taxed off them, they should have tumbled in price when the GST took effect.
The government of the day got around this by increasing the alcohol excise. The hair-splitting spin-doctors would claim that excise ain't a tax. To which I say: bulldust. A turd by any other name smells just as rotten. The government LIED to us about their GST.
It's enough to drive a bloke to drink....

If we had gotten the GST John Hewson proposed the tax and excise on petrol would have gone too, and we would be better off now because lower transport costs would have helped keep prices down. Ideally, funding that would have included there being no exemptions from the GST, which would have kept it all simple. I don't really like the GST - it is a pain doing BAS returns. Still it is possible to accept something you don't like if it gives a good overall result.

The alcohol excise has been seen by both parties as a health measure aimed at trying to get people to moderate their habits but I agree - it won't work. Anyone can brew their own beer or run up their own still. I know a doctor in Adelaide who makes a very nice Rum at home - one of the best I've had. Mind you I've never seen him drunk or even mildly tipsy - use and enjoyment doesn't always mean no control.

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:33 pm
by Dutchy
Land Tax...

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:43 pm
by redden whites
Aimed at kids who buy cheap lolly drinks drinks ....see the sam davis thread???
Worth a go.
We have had 2 local footy lads both innocently badly injured(in Sams case worse) and thats just the kids we know through footy ...There must be dozens more each week...I will give it a chance just in case it works

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:48 pm
by stan
Dog_ger wrote:Speed Cameras.....

Red light cameras....

Parking tickets...

are there anymore I forgot..

Driving too fast.

Driving too slow


Probably a Death Tax as well.

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:49 pm
by stan
Dutchy wrote:Land Tax...


Which one ;)

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:35 pm
by Psyber
stan wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:Speed Cameras.....

Red light cameras....

Parking tickets...

are there anymore I forgot..

Driving too fast.

Driving too slow


Probably a Death Tax as well.

I vaguely remember Mark Latham at one time, prior to his getting the leadership for a while, arguing in favour of Death Duties or Inheritance Taxes, or maybe both.

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:43 pm
by redden whites
Psyber wrote:I vaguely remember Mark Latham at one time, prior to his getting the leadership for a while, arguing in favour of Death Duties or Inheritance Taxes, or maybe both.

works for me...great idea

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:46 am
by The Big Shrek
Psyber wrote:
Pseudo wrote:Tax on alcohol is possibly the biggest joke perpetrated by the former Howard government.
When the GST was brought in it was supposed to replace all those hidden sales taxes and whatnot on everything. Since luxury items like BEER and TABS already had the ar$e taxed off them, they should have tumbled in price when the GST took effect.
The government of the day got around this by increasing the alcohol excise. The hair-splitting spin-doctors would claim that excise ain't a tax. To which I say: bulldust. A turd by any other name smells just as rotten. The government LIED to us about their GST.
It's enough to drive a bloke to drink....

If we had gotten the GST John Hewson proposed the tax and excise on petrol would have gone too, and we would be better off now because lower transport costs would have helped keep prices down. Ideally, funding that would have included there being no exemptions from the GST, which would have kept it all simple. I don't really like the GST - it is a pain doing BAS returns. Still it is possible to accept something you don't like if it gives a good overall result.

The alcohol excise has been seen by both parties as a health measure aimed at trying to get people to moderate their habits but I agree - it won't work. Anyone can brew their own beer or run up their own still. I know a doctor in Adelaide who makes a very nice Rum at home - one of the best I've had. Mind you I've never seen him drunk or even mildly tipsy - use and enjoyment doesn't always mean no control.


How about a wowser tax for each time Psyber craps on about how bad alcohol is. I can see the budget surplus now.

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:39 am
by johntheclaret
stan wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:Speed Cameras.....

Red light cameras....

Parking tickets...

are there anymore I forgot..

Driving too fast.

Driving too slow


Probably a Death Tax as well.


In the Uk we do have a death tax. It's called Death Duty. We also have inheritance tax.

Cigggies are now $12.00 a packet
Petrol is now $2.70 per litre
Sales Tax is 17 and 1/2% on every thing you buy
Beer is now around $7.00 although style beers like beck's, bud etc are around $6.50 per 275ml bottle.
Stamp duty on buying a house is 3% of the value and with the average house price in the UK up around $270k that's another $8,000 for tax
Personal tax is 22% for the 1st $73,000 then it's up to 40%
Health tax is 8% of your gross wage
Corporation tax is 19% for the 1st $220k then it's 22%
TV tax is $280 a year
Local govt tax is around $3,500 a year
Water tax is around $500 a year
Road tax is $360 a year and there is a supplimentary tax of around $120 if your car is older than 3 years.
Tax on all Gas and Electric is 5% which equates to around $500 a year

I could go on..............

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:02 pm
by JAS
johntheclaret wrote:In the Uk we do have a death tax. It's called Death Duty. We also have inheritance tax.

Cigggies are now $12.00 a packet
Petrol is now $2.70 per litre
Sales Tax is 17 and 1/2% on every thing you buy
Beer is now around $7.00 although style beers like beck's, bud etc are around $6.50 per 275ml bottle.
Stamp duty on buying a house is 3% of the value and with the average house price in the UK up around $270k that's another $8,000 for tax
Personal tax is 22% for the 1st $73,000 then it's up to 40%
Health tax is 8% of your gross wage
Corporation tax is 19% for the 1st $220k then it's 22%
TV tax is $280 a year
Local govt tax is around $3,500 a year
Water tax is around $500 a year
Road tax is $360 a year and there is a supplimentary tax of around $120 if your car is older than 3 years.
Tax on all Gas and Electric is 5% which equates to around $500 a year

I could go on..............


Well done JTC I was wondering if I'd be able to work those out and post them :wink:

Did you see this today...the UK's very own comedy politician is the one that seems to have kept a promise within a few days of moving into office...perhaps dear old Boris will surprise us all :wink: :D

Regards
JAS

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080507/ ... 6b408.html

LONDON (Reuters) - London's new mayor Boris Johnson announced on Wednesday that alcohol would be banned on the capital's transport system from next month.

The ban on drinking from or carrying open alcohol containers was a key manifesto pledge of Johnson, the irreverent journalist-turned MP who defeated incumbent Ken Livingstone in a closely fought election last week.

The ban, which will apply to buses, underground trains, trams and stations, will come into force on June 1.

"I'm determined to improve the safety and security of public transport in London and create a better environment for the millions of Londoners who rely on it," Johnson said.

"I firmly believe that if we drive out so called minor crime then we will be able to get a firm grip on more serious crime."

Tackling crime, particularly serious violence among young people, was one of the main planks of Johnson's election campaign and he has already vowed to put it at the forefront of his mayoralty.

Posters informing travellers of the ban will now go on display.

"Public drinking and the behaviour sometimes associated with it can, and does, deeply affect people's ability to enjoy public spaces," said Don Shenker, Chief Executive of Alcohol Concern.

"Taking a firm approach to public drinking in this way sends a strong message that public drunkenness is socially unacceptable and will support both the public and transport staff."

(Reporting by Michael Holden; Editing by Steve Addison)

Re: For all the BINGE drinkers....

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:34 pm
by Sojourner
johntheclaret wrote:In the Uk we do have a death tax. It's called Death Duty. We also have inheritance tax.

Cigggies are now $12.00 a packet
Petrol is now $2.70 per litre
Sales Tax is 17 and 1/2% on every thing you buy
Beer is now around $7.00 although style beers like beck's, bud etc are around $6.50 per 275ml bottle.
Stamp duty on buying a house is 3% of the value and with the average house price in the UK up around $270k that's another $8,000 for tax
Personal tax is 22% for the 1st $73,000 then it's up to 40%
Health tax is 8% of your gross wage
Corporation tax is 19% for the 1st $220k then it's 22%
TV tax is $280 a year
Local govt tax is around $3,500 a year
Water tax is around $500 a year
Road tax is $360 a year and there is a supplimentary tax of around $120 if your car is older than 3 years.
Tax on all Gas and Electric is 5% which equates to around $500 a year

I could go on..............


Still the Free Healthcare system over there does seem a lot better than here which is supposed to be Free yet seems to be loaded up with various "Gaps".......