SMOKERS

[MW]

Seriously if people want to end their life 15 to 20 years early by smoking then go right ahead. Just not near me.
F*ck off you bastards

LMAO well said

[PhilG]

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[MW]

Seriously if people want to end their life 15 to 20 years early by smoking then go right ahead. Just not near me.

Nice sentiment, Heater - but no. Because those careless suicidal fools occupy public hospital beds that should be available to bring down the waiting lists. If they stopped smoking more beds would open up.

But of course the smokers are so bloody arrogant they won't even care about that!

It's why I favour a mighty hike in cigarette taxes with all of the revenue going into public health. That way this effect is minimised. Make the cheapest packet of 20 $20! At least!

But if they stop smoking, there won't be enough tax dollars to fund those beds that will open up!

[MagicKiwi]

Eating too much will overtake the smoking soon, hope you're as passionate then Phil.
We will increasingly be paying for obesity related diseases and conditions.

And going by the looks of this thread, eating like pigs seems to be acceptable. This will explain the amount of fat kids being produced by the latest generations.... And paying for a seat on a bus but getting a third of one to utilise.... And freezing to death at work everyday because the average person is bigger than they used to be....

Whinge, whinge.

[PhilG]

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[MagicKiwi]

Except that eating is as addictive. As much of an escape or release as any other addiction. So as much of a choice to do or not to do.

[PhilG]

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

No - that I don't agree with. Nicotine is far more addictive than any food additive (or whatever you want to call it). Personally I put nicotine up there with illicit drugs like heroin and the like.

So why celebrate the death & illness of all smokers, tad harsh for a left leaning peacenik.

[Wedgie]

No - that I don't agree with. Nicotine is far more addictive than any food additive (or whatever you want to call it). Personally I put nicotine up there with illicit drugs like heroin and the like.

So why celebrate the death & illness of all smokers, tad harsh for a left leaning peacenik.

I was waiting for you to get on this thread!

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Someones gotta help big Gracie against the social workers.

[Wedgie]

Someones gotta help big Gracie against the social workers.

lol, cheers, I tried but gave up, there's some sad people out there.

[PhilG]

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

No - that I don't agree with. Nicotine is far more addictive than any food additive (or whatever you want to call it). Personally I put nicotine up there with illicit drugs like heroin and the like.

So why celebrate the death & illness of all smokers, tad harsh for a left leaning peacenik.

Celebrating? I'm not celebrating it! I'm saying they deserve it in a way that will hopefully shake them out of their lethargy towards the effects of those filthy cigarettes! I'm not blowing whistles or party favours over it! I'm not glad about it! I'm DISGUSTED!!

You say tomato.
Your much heralded Watermelon partys screaming for free needle centres on every street corner, & in your own words ''Personally I put nicotine up there with illicit drugs like heroin ''. I'd think that maybe with your social identification you'd cut smokers a bit of slack, you know like giving them hospital treatment ect. Don't forget that the highest demographic who indulge in durries are the poor & downtrodden.

[JK]

This is getting good now ...

[MagicKiwi]

Go Holly.

Stick around Constant....

[PhilG]

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[Wedgie]

I will NOT cut smokers slack. At all.

Obviously!
Any chance you can cut us slack though?
We got your point the first 19 times you posted it.
Cheers.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Celebrating? I'm not celebrating it! I'm saying they deserve it in a way that will hopefully shake them out of their lethargy towards the effects of those filthy cigarettes! I'm not blowing whistles or party favours over it! I'm not glad about it! I'm DISGUSTED!!

You say tomato.
Your much heralded Watermelon partys screaming for free needle centres on every street corner, & in your own words ''Personally I put nicotine up there with illicit drugs like heroin ''. I'd think that maybe with your social identification you'd cut smokers a bit of slack, you know like giving them hospital treatment ect. Don't forget that the highest demographic who indulge in durries are the poor & downtrodden.

I'm in the same boat (downtrodden thanks to the contempt for my disability) and yet do I smoke? Or drink alcohol for that matter? NO! So it's no excuse. And by the way I have seen plenty of office workers smoke, so that demographic isn't as high as you think.

I will NOT cut smokers slack. At all.

And that bolding tooke my comment out of context.

"Mr. Speaker, I seek to make a personal explanation. I have been misrepresented."

(Oh, and I disagree with needle centres - I go with "detox" centres, which should be the punishment for users brought before a court for possession. Notice that I'm not advocating making nicotine similarly illegal and bringing smokers before a court and ordering them onto Quit programs - as much as that appeals one can't change things in law just like that)

What ?? your poor & don't smoke?? shame on you.

No, what I'm saying is that if we go with your $20 packet of darts & refusal or huge penalty for hospital care the hardest hit will be the least able to afford it, no matter that you don't partake & that you've seen office workers smoke the highest rate of smokers are the have nots, like it or not, that's how it is. Nobodys saying that being povvy is no excuse not to smoke, but they still do & always will.

I'll see if I can find something figure wise, but I need to have a peek at the form before the first.

I know it's Scottish & a blog, but it comes across pretty well & the bloke seems to know what he's talking about.

http://blogsofbainbridge.typepad.com/gl ... /326b.html

Poor people in Scotland smoke the most
PEOPLE living in Scotland's most deprived areas are spending £1.3million on cigarettes EVERY day.
LISTEN

Official figures obtained by the Sunday Mail reveal it is the poorest people who can least afford it who spend the most on tobacco.

Richer smokers with money to burn buy fewer cigarettes and more of them appear to be giving up.

Deprived areas have three times as many smokers as more affluent places. Male smokers in the poorest parts of Scotland get through around 17 cigarettes a day and women average 16.

With a pack of 20 costing £5.20, that's £31 a week for men and £29 for women - almost a quarter of their weekly income.

Their weekly budget is below £131 - just above the official poverty line of £98.

The richest male smokers smoke an average of 13 a week and the women have 12.

Maureen Moore, chairman of anti-smoking group Ash Scotland, said: "The Executive have started to concentrate on this but projects need to be targeted at deprived areas where there is clearly a desperate problem. When we see people suffering cancer, heart disease and strokes, it seems obvious that finding ways of stopping people from smoking in the first place is the most cost effective solution."

An estimated 310,217 Scots in the poorest areas are smokers.

They spend an incredible £1,330,831 on cigarettes each day.

This may take a while Philip, but I will swing you around to show some compassion, shit I even may have you choffing em down by the dozen a day in a month or so.

[PhilG]

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[Wedgie]

20 times now.