London Riots

[The Apostle]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/worl ... 6110629022

[The Apostle]

It really shows how much the English 'race' has declined in the last 50 years...I consider the Scots and the Irish to be a more civilised race of people than the English...which is saying something!

Great to see the Mussies over in Birmingham have the right idea.

[The Apostle]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ntrol.html

[The Sleeping Giant]

Good to see the police starting to crack some skulls. Should have brought the heavy tactics earlier in the piece. Dogs, tear gas, water cannons, tasers, batons etc. The rioters would have gone back to playing their PS3 pretty quick.

[another grub]

The way they were running through the streets and in disguise I thought it was the London marathon......

[mighty_tiger_79]

forget water bombs get the real bastards out!!

How is solihull? Is this an area bein affected at all?

I don't think I've heard any mention of Solihull on the BBC or Sky news channels which is my main tv source but I just did a quick search for you and found this...

http://www.solihullobserver.co.uk/index.html

I assume you have connections so the local paper might be a good way to keep an eye on things. I can let you know if I do hear anything elsewhere if you like.

Regards
JAS

thanks for that JAS

[The Apostle]

Stop Press: The riots have spread to Scotland...

[CENTURION]

Stop Press: The riots have spread to Scotland...

I didn't know they had bins in Scotland!

[another grub]

When is it coming to Australia. I need a new TV for my pergola

[Johno6]

http://photoshoplooter.tumblr.com/

[Magpiespower]

Official Metropolitan Police training video...

[Dogwatcher]

A smash of glass and the rumble of boots. I say that’s entertainment.

[Q.]

People feel like they’ve got a stake through their heart

The short answer to the Right’s self-serving construction of these events would be to say that they are easily falsified by looking at where and when they don’t and didn’t happen. The first and obvious candidate is Scotland — these aren’t British riots, they’re English riots. Why? Because Scotland and Northern Ireland are separately governed for the purposes of domestic spending, and in both cases, the Tories’ cuts have been resisted. People still have a stake in society and riots when they occur have an older political form i.e. sectarianism.

Furthermore when you look to the places where “PC” parenting, policing blah blah has occurred — i.e. Scandinavia, Netherlands etc — you find not merely an absence of riots, but also an absence of the sort of anomie that fuels Britain. Why? Because they’re less unequal places. People still feel they’ve got a stake in their own lives.

In England, people feel like they’ve got a stake through their heart. They didn’t for a while under Labour, as Gordon Brown began to wheel out some sort of social investment state — now that’s been wound up, there is simply a renewed sense of radical isolation.

The form the riots are taking may well be dictated by the nature of postmodern society — the content is still dictated by politics. The Right’s half-arsed theorising on this wont disguise the truth — these are Thatcher’s children, and this is Thatcher’s England, still and again, and in its third decade.

[Bat Pad]

People feel like they’ve got a stake through their heart

The short answer to the Right’s self-serving construction of these events would be to say that they are easily falsified by looking at where and when they don’t and didn’t happen. The first and obvious candidate is Scotland — these aren’t British riots, they’re English riots. Why? Because Scotland and Northern Ireland are separately governed for the purposes of domestic spending, and in both cases, the Tories’ cuts have been resisted. People still have a stake in society and riots when they occur have an older political form i.e. sectarianism.

Furthermore when you look to the places where “PC” parenting, policing blah blah has occurred — i.e. Scandinavia, Netherlands etc — you find not merely an absence of riots, but also an absence of the sort of anomie that fuels Britain. Why? Because they’re less unequal places. People still feel they’ve got a stake in their own lives.

In England, people feel like they’ve got a stake through their heart. They didn’t for a while under Labour, as Gordon Brown began to wheel out some sort of social investment state — now that’s been wound up, there is simply a renewed sense of radical isolation.

The form the riots are taking may well be dictated by the nature of postmodern society — the content is still dictated by politics. The Right’s half-arsed theorising on this wont disguise the truth — these are Thatcher’s children, and this is Thatcher’s England, still and again, and in its third decade.

I thought there were riots in Scotland, at least according to 3 or 4 posts above. Did this not occur (honestly don't know)

Top marks for courage on quoting Scandinavia considering a scandanavian mowed down 85 strangers less than a month ago.

Netherlands etc.- They can't seriously be refering to France can they? Or Belgium where a person stabbed to death a bunch of pre schoolers 2 years ago?

Don't understand why some writers dont just accept that some people are just jerks. There is no underlying cause, except for the fact that they are a jerk.

No, it's not Magaret Thatcher's fault. These people are just jerks. And when jerks think they can get away with being a jerk because everyone else is doing it, guess what. They are gonna act like a jerk.

[Q.]

The Scotland videos were jokes.

There's always an underlying cause. If you don't address the root of the cause, history will only repeat itself.

[Bat Pad]

The Scotland videos were jokes.

There's always an underlying cause. If you don't address the root of the cause, history will only repeat itself.

I agree, but that doesn't mean the underlying cause is always a good excuse.

[JK]

Fisher: Next Tuesday, right, I'm going to blow up a panda in Croydon.

Rick: Yeah, right on. Bloody zoos, who needs them?

[Q.]

The Scotland videos were jokes.

There's always an underlying cause. If you don't address the root of the cause, history will only repeat itself.

I agree, but that doesn't mean the underlying cause is always a good excuse.

In looking for causes, I don't think anyone is intending to make excuses.

[JAS]

People feel like they’ve got a stake through their heart

The short answer to the Right’s self-serving construction of these events would be to say that they are easily falsified by looking at where and when they don’t and didn’t happen. The first and obvious candidate is Scotland — these aren’t British riots, they’re English riots. Why? Because Scotland and Northern Ireland are separately governed for the purposes of domestic spending, and in both cases, the Tories’ cuts have been resisted. People still have a stake in society and riots when they occur have an older political form i.e. sectarianism.

Furthermore when you look to the places where “PC” parenting, policing blah blah has occurred — i.e. Scandinavia, Netherlands etc — you find not merely an absence of riots, but also an absence of the sort of anomie that fuels Britain. Why? Because they’re less unequal places. People still feel they’ve got a stake in their own lives.

In England, people feel like they’ve got a stake through their heart. They didn’t for a while under Labour, as Gordon Brown began to wheel out some sort of social investment state — now that’s been wound up, there is simply a renewed sense of radical isolation.

The form the riots are taking may well be dictated by the nature of postmodern society — the content is still dictated by politics. The Right’s half-arsed theorising on this wont disguise the truth — these are Thatcher’s children, and this is Thatcher’s England, still and again, and in its third decade.

I thought there were riots in Scotland, at least according to 3 or 4 posts above. Did this not occur (honestly don't know)

Top marks for courage on quoting Scandinavia considering a scandanavian mowed down 85 strangers less than a month ago.

Netherlands etc.- They can't seriously be refering to France can they? Or Belgium where a person stabbed to death a bunch of pre schoolers 2 years ago?

Don't understand why some writers dont just accept that some people are just jerks. There is no underlying cause, except for the fact that they are a jerk.

No, it's not Magaret Thatcher's fault. These people are just jerks. And when jerks think they can get away with being a jerk because everyone else is doing it, guess what. They are gonna act like a jerk.

The answer is very simple...the reason the riots didn't happen in Scotland or Newcastle or Belfast is because it's been about 14C and p****ing down with rain(to the point of flooding in some areas) since they started. Seriously...people don't riot in the bad weather. Warm, sunny weather south of Liverpool (approx) and cold, wet weather north of Liverpool...riots south of Liverpool, no riots north of Liverpool.

Regards
JAS

[JAS]

Maybe a bit of justice for music fans...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23336631/

Scotland Yard said two 17-year-olds and an 18-year-old had been arrested in connection with violent disorder and the arson at the warehouse. Two remain in custody while a 17-year-old has been bailed.

It was the huge fire in Enfield in London that destroyed the SONY DADC warehouse.


Regards
JAS