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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 3:16 pm

Footy Chick wrote:Plus Q is about this far away of just calling all of us racists.*sorry Q, just my observations*


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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby HH3 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:20 pm

Q. wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:Plus Q is about this far away of just calling all of us racists.*sorry Q, just my observations*


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Your point seems to be that if we dont agree with your opinion of what racism is, it makes us all racist. Bad call.

And I dont think its going around in circles. Its a discussion that has two different points of view. It'd be a shit forum if we all have to agree with each other to keep the thread open.
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Footy Chick » Fri May 31, 2013 3:23 pm

I just dont want it to get nasty, especially as thoughts quite often cant be put across accurately via typing as opposed to face to face discussion..that's really my only concern
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Pseudo » Fri May 31, 2013 3:23 pm

Psyber wrote:My only prejudice about Asians is my impression formed over years that they tend to be obedient to authority.
That's why our public health industry likes them as medical staff - they tend not to makes waves or upset policy decisions.
(Not every one of them though.)


A mate of mine who has worked in China suggests that as a general rule the Chinese lack creativity. That may have something to do with decades of communist suppression.

My own experience of Chinese is quite different, since I tend to interact with the more academically-inclined asians...
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 3:24 pm

HH3 wrote:Your point seems to be that if we dont agree with your opinion of what racism is, it makes us all racist. Bad call.


I never said such a thing.
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Postby Pseudo » Fri May 31, 2013 3:25 pm

Psyber wrote:2. In our law guilt for an action is generally defined by the intent of the active party, not by the interpretation of the complainant.
Goodes had the right to be offended by a rude remark, but that doesn't make it by definition racist.

There's that magic word again.

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Postby Pseudo » Fri May 31, 2013 3:26 pm

Psyber wrote:I have an acquaintance (female) who seems to be offended because my hair is still brown - except at the temples - at 69.
She keeps hinting that I'm dyeing it - to the extent I've publicly invited her to inspect the roots for herself.

You sly old dog you! :lol:
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 3:30 pm

Pseudo wrote:
Psyber wrote:2. In our law guilt for an action is generally defined by the intent of the active party, not by the interpretation of the complainant.
Goodes had the right to be offended by a rude remark, but that doesn't make it by definition racist.

There's that magic word again.

Listen to Psyber, he speaks much wisdom.


That's the problem. We equate racism with morality, thus implying there must be intent. Racism isn't confined to the morally corrupt and can occur without intent.
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Postby Footy Chick » Fri May 31, 2013 3:31 pm

Dutchy says play on, which is fine but I think we just need think extra hard before we type.

Most of us are friends here - and I think we'd all like to keep it that way ;)
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby HH3 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:37 pm

Q. wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Psyber wrote:2. In our law guilt for an action is generally defined by the intent of the active party, not by the interpretation of the complainant.
Goodes had the right to be offended by a rude remark, but that doesn't make it by definition racist.

There's that magic word again.

Listen to Psyber, he speaks much wisdom.


That's the problem. We equate racism with morality, thus implying there must be intent. Racism isn't confined to the morally corrupt and can occur without intent.


So you're saying if Im talking to an Aboriginal mate, and say something that has no racial meaning to me at all, if he takes it the wrong way, IM racist?
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Postby Pseudo » Fri May 31, 2013 3:38 pm

Q. wrote:That's the problem. We equate racism with morality, thus implying there must be intent. Racism isn't confined to the morally corrupt and can occur without intent.

No, the problem is pillocks who would point the finger and cry racist/homophobe/misogynist/etc without considering that the spoken remark may have been made in complete ignorance of any offence to the recipient, and with no intended malice whatsoever.
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby HH3 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:38 pm

Footy Chick wrote:Dutchy says play on, which is fine but I think we just need think extra hard before we type.

Most of us are friends here - and I think we'd all like to keep it that way ;)


I dont think anyones taking anything personally or the wrong way FC. Most of the people commenting on this thread are pretty smart people....apart from myself :lol:
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Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 3:39 pm

HH3 wrote:So you're saying if Im talking to an Aboriginal mate, and say something that has no racial meaning to me at all, if he takes it the wrong way, IM racist?


What did you say?
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 3:40 pm

Pseudo wrote:
Q. wrote:That's the problem. We equate racism with morality, thus implying there must be intent. Racism isn't confined to the morally corrupt and can occur without intent.

No, the problem is pillocks who would point the finger and cry racist/homophobe/misogynist/etc without considering that the spoken remark may have been made in complete ignorance of any offence to the recipient, and with no intended malice whatsoever.


There doesn't have to be intended malice though.
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Postby Johno6 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:43 pm

sorry to all the sensitive people out there
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby HH3 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:47 pm

Q. wrote:
HH3 wrote:So you're saying if Im talking to an Aboriginal mate, and say something that has no racial meaning to me at all, if he takes it the wrong way, IM racist?


What did you say?


Nothing. Its a hypothetical question.

How about if I called him a "dog" for eating my last hot chip, like I would for any of my other mates (white, brown, black, magenta). If I said it with no racial thoughts behind it...is that racist?
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Postby Johno6 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:48 pm

HH3 wrote:
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HH3 wrote:So you're saying if Im talking to an Aboriginal mate, and say something that has no racial meaning to me at all, if he takes it the wrong way, IM racist?


What did you say?


Nothing. Its a hypothetical question.

How about if I called him a "dog" for eating my last hot chip, like I would for any of my other mates (white, brown, black, magenta). If I said it with no racial thoughts behind it...is that racist?



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Postby Dogwatcher » Fri May 31, 2013 3:50 pm

HH3 wrote: How about if I called him a "dog" for eating my last hot chip, like I would for any of my other mates (white, brown, black, magenta). If I said it with no racial thoughts behind it...is that racist?


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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Hondo » Fri May 31, 2013 3:52 pm

HH3 wrote:How about if I called him a "dog" for eating my last hot chip, like I would for any of my other mates (white, brown, black, magenta). If I said it with no racial thoughts behind it...is that racist?


Are dogs commonly associated with any race?

PS: "scab" is the term I'd normally link with that act.
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby HH3 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:54 pm

Hondo wrote:
HH3 wrote:How about if I called him a "dog" for eating my last hot chip, like I would for any of my other mates (white, brown, black, magenta). If I said it with no racial thoughts behind it...is that racist?


Are dogs commonly associated with any race?

PS: "scab" is the term I'd normally link with that act.


Well id say "dog" would be implying he's inferior to me. Which Ive been told is racist if they are not the same race as the person saying it.
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