Things that give you the sh1ts

[MW]

So one of my workers who DIDN'T receive a redundancy on Thursday has decided to clean out his desk on Friday. Literally nothing left but the PC. All work in progress, prototypes, designs, books, files in the bin. Will be interesting to see if he comes back to work (due Tuesday). Even if he does, it's not going to be a good conversation for him as retirement might not even be an option for him now....

Update: Said employee has now submitted a sick leave cert for 2 weeks with aim to submit other certs until the end of the year - then go on 6 months LSL and force us to fire him after that. All because he didn't get a redundancy.

[Booney]

So one of my workers who DIDN'T receive a redundancy on Thursday has decided to clean out his desk on Friday. Literally nothing left but the PC. All work in progress, prototypes, designs, books, files in the bin. Will be interesting to see if he comes back to work (due Tuesday). Even if he does, it's not going to be a good conversation for him as retirement might not even be an option for him now....

Update: Said employee has now submitted a sick leave cert for 2 weeks with aim to submit other certs until the end of the year - then go on 6 months LSL and force us to fire him after that. All because he didn't get a redundancy.

That's an ugly situation for everyone involved.

[MW]

Sure is. 46 years service.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Drastic measure.

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[MW]

Not a smart one either. the guy has about 1 year of S/L that would get paid out on retirement. He forfeits this now.

[Spargo]

So one of my workers who DIDN'T receive a redundancy on Thursday has decided to clean out his desk on Friday. Literally nothing left but the PC. All work in progress, prototypes, designs, books, files in the bin. Will be interesting to see if he comes back to work (due Tuesday). Even if he does, it's not going to be a good conversation for him as retirement might not even be an option for him now....

Update: Said employee has now submitted a sick leave cert for 2 weeks with aim to submit other certs until the end of the year - then go on 6 months LSL and force us to fire him after that. All because he didn't get a redundancy.

Excuse my ignorance, but if he submits legitimate sick certificates until the end of the year & then takes LSL after that (which I assume he’s entitled to), on what grounds would you be forced to fire him?

[MW]

Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Yeah Im with Spargo, its not as if he has 'abandoned' his job.
Why does he get paid out on sick leave? Is that part of an arrangement in your workplace?

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[Spargo]

Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

Ah, ok.

[Booney]

Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.

[Lightning McQueen]

Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

Were the redundancies discussed on a case by case situation with each employee?

[Lightning McQueen]

Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.

At a guess he would've cost the company a lot higher amount to make redundant given age and possible length of service to the company.

[MW]

Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.

It wasn't voluntary it was forced on a skills and needs basis. I have a relatively young team that needs his experience. He is (from an age point of view) still a couple of years from retirement and I need(ed) his expertise to help the young Engineers.

[Lightning McQueen]

Not a smart one either. the guy has about 1 year of S/L that would get paid out on retirement. He forfeits this now.

Maybe he'll stall long enough for this.

[Booney]

Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.

It wasn't voluntary it was forced on a skills and needs basis. I have a relatively young team that needs his experience. He is (from an age point of view) still a couple of years from retirement and I need(ed) his expertise to help the young Engineers.

Roger that.

[Bum Crack]

Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

I thought you said he would get paid out his sick leave if he retires?

[MW]

Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

I thought you said he would get paid out his sick leave if he retires?

He's already indicated his intention is to force us to sack him after his LSL period. I guess he's got until then to realise in his best interest to retire

[LMA]

Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.

It wasn't voluntary it was forced on a skills and needs basis. I have a relatively young team that needs his experience. He is (from an age point of view) still a couple of years from retirement and I need(ed) his expertise to help the young Engineers.

I work with a guy like that, has 30 years experience and keeps all his knowledge in his head. Knows more than the engineers but trying to extract the information from his brain into work instructions is near impossible, making him an absolute asset. I'm trying to get into a role where I shadow him so I can become the crafty old **** they can't get rid of when he retires.

[Lightning McQueen]

I work with a guy like that, has 30 years experience and keeps all his knowledge in his head. Knows more than the engineers but trying to extract the information from his brain into work instructions is near impossible, making him an absolute asset. I'm trying to get into a role where I shadow him so I can become the crafty old **** they can't get rid of when he retires.

It has it's perks and disadvantages, that is me and the older bloke I work with to a tee.

I take 2 weeks off and there's a 10 to 15K variance in KPI's for the EOM report each time, I strategically take my annual leave to show them my worth from what's in my head, some shit you just can't teach others for various reasons.

[Spargo]

I'm trying to get into a role where I shadow him so I can become the crafty old **** they can't get rid of when he retires.

Just need to work on the crafty & old parts...