Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:13 pmRe: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:20 pmDid i hear somewhere that they freed another Bali bomber yesterday too?
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:21 pmFooty Chick wrote:Did i hear somewhere that they freed another Bali bomber yesterday too?
they didn't free her. She has a stay of execution... New evidence has presented it self..
Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:33 pmRe: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:43 pmwoodublieve12 wrote:Footy Chick wrote:Did i hear somewhere that they freed another Bali bomber yesterday too?
they didn't free her. She has a stay of execution... New evidence has presented it self..
She wasn't convicted of participation in the Bali Bombings, though- she was an (at the time), convicted drug mule.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:38 pmwoodublieve12 wrote:Footy Chick wrote:Did i hear somewhere that they freed another Bali bomber yesterday too?
they didn't free her. She has a stay of execution... New evidence has presented it self..
I said Bali bomber - not drug mule.
You know...one of the guys that blew up all our guys and lots of other guys
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:07 pmFooty Chick wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:Footy Chick wrote:Did i hear somewhere that they freed another Bali bomber yesterday too?
they didn't free her. She has a stay of execution... New evidence has presented it self..
I said Bali bomber - not drug mule.
You know...one of the guys that blew up all our guys and lots of other guys
mis read your comment. they did, cut his sentence in half...
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:27 pmjust to rub our faces in it no doubt.
Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:42 pmFooty Chick wrote:just to rub our faces in it no doubt.
this happened a few months ago...
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:26 pmI think people are getting confused with some chick that got a last minute pardon apparently and someone that got let out early from their part of the Bali bombing or the Bali 9.
Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:32 pmMy two cents.
Stayed up the night of the executions - I didn't know there was a vigil in the CBD or I'd have gone to it. Anyway, there was no way I could sleep so I lit a couple of candles. Thought I was an atheist but I prayed a bit, for what it was worth. I was transfixed in horror by the news updates coming out of Cilacap.
I think that Andrew, Myu and the rest didn't have a chance from the beginning of the Widodo regime. I have probably written this before, but Joko Widodo comes from a small-town background and he has very little foreign affairs experience. Furthermore, he is very much under the thumb of his patron (and former president of Indonesia) Megawati Sukarnoputri. She has chastised him publicly on several occasions; he is unable to stand up to her, but he cannot rule without her. She insisted that these people be executed and basically said 'What's the matter with you? Why is this taking so long? Are you going to cave in to foreign pressure?' The only reason Widodo was chosen as his party's presidential candidate was because Megawati, who wanted to run again, is so unpopular with the people. But she is the power behind the throne, and she's a corrupt motherf***ing bitch. Excuse me - I'm running out of patience to write diplomatically. Mercy is not high on her agenda, nor is rehabilitation within the prison system.
But I don't hold her to account for the executions. The responsibility rests solely with Joko Widodo. Who chose to stay out of sight behind the palace walls in Jakarta, while attorney-general HM Prasetyo was given a free hand to make the preparations for the executions as disorganised, disrespectful and traumatic as possible for the families of the condemned. Which he did, and then had the audacity to publicly announce, in a self-congratulatory statement, that the executions were a 'complete success'.
Ten years in Kerobokan, to end like this.
In the aftermath, what disturbs me is a plethora of racist comments, threats of violence, calls to arms against Indonesia. A real lynch-mob mentality. The Indonesian people aren't to blame for what happened. They may have voted Joko Widodo into office, but they cannot control his actions. I hope fervently that this s*** dies down. Ideally, the ultimate message for people take out of these brutal executions should be one of hope rather than of hatred, and an increased push to abolish the death penalty in all countries.
Stayed up the night of the executions - I didn't know there was a vigil in the CBD or I'd have gone to it. Anyway, there was no way I could sleep so I lit a couple of candles. Thought I was an atheist but I prayed a bit, for what it was worth. I was transfixed in horror by the news updates coming out of Cilacap.
I think that Andrew, Myu and the rest didn't have a chance from the beginning of the Widodo regime. I have probably written this before, but Joko Widodo comes from a small-town background and he has very little foreign affairs experience. Furthermore, he is very much under the thumb of his patron (and former president of Indonesia) Megawati Sukarnoputri. She has chastised him publicly on several occasions; he is unable to stand up to her, but he cannot rule without her. She insisted that these people be executed and basically said 'What's the matter with you? Why is this taking so long? Are you going to cave in to foreign pressure?' The only reason Widodo was chosen as his party's presidential candidate was because Megawati, who wanted to run again, is so unpopular with the people. But she is the power behind the throne, and she's a corrupt motherf***ing bitch. Excuse me - I'm running out of patience to write diplomatically. Mercy is not high on her agenda, nor is rehabilitation within the prison system.
But I don't hold her to account for the executions. The responsibility rests solely with Joko Widodo. Who chose to stay out of sight behind the palace walls in Jakarta, while attorney-general HM Prasetyo was given a free hand to make the preparations for the executions as disorganised, disrespectful and traumatic as possible for the families of the condemned. Which he did, and then had the audacity to publicly announce, in a self-congratulatory statement, that the executions were a 'complete success'.
Ten years in Kerobokan, to end like this.
In the aftermath, what disturbs me is a plethora of racist comments, threats of violence, calls to arms against Indonesia. A real lynch-mob mentality. The Indonesian people aren't to blame for what happened. They may have voted Joko Widodo into office, but they cannot control his actions. I hope fervently that this s*** dies down. Ideally, the ultimate message for people take out of these brutal executions should be one of hope rather than of hatred, and an increased push to abolish the death penalty in all countries.
Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:41 amNow the stories are coming out lol
A woman in the courier mail has come out today saying "she was Andrew Chans secret wife"
bet she is waiting for the TV stations to come knocking for her "story" ......
A woman in the courier mail has come out today saying "she was Andrew Chans secret wife"
bet she is waiting for the TV stations to come knocking for her "story" ......
Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:08 pmLightning McQueen wrote:I think people are getting confused with some chick that got a last minute pardon apparently and someone that got let out early from their part of the Bali bombing or the Bali 9.
Yep correct. The chick that got a pardon was innocent all a long and the one that set her up came forward right at the end. That's how I read it any way.
Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:13 amThe decision was a political one in the end. Widodo could not be seen to bow down to Australia as it would make him look weak.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:49 amam Bays wrote:Leaping Lindner wrote:Q. wrote:Actually, it probably goes toward their genocidal campaign in West Papua.
No!!! Next you'll be saying they killed 200,000 plus during their occupation of East Timor......
Which is still less than the deaths that occur due to drug smuggling scum like those two idiots?
At least two innocent people died in Australia last night due to drug addictions, yet there is no who ha over there deaths yet all we hear about are two criminals. Hopefully their deaths were painfull and they suffered.
Hypocritical much???
And four people died in Darwin last night because of drugs peddling scum.
Still cant believe people have empathy for drug smugglers and peddlers