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Re: I need to know....

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:53 am

Trader wrote:
whufc wrote:If we have the home equity to cover a house deposit for an investment property, is it something i should look into or is there better ways to spend.


You should seek independent financial advice rather than listen to randoms on the internet, etc.


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Re: I need to know....

Postby Trader » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:15 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
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whufc wrote:If we have the home equity to cover a house deposit for an investment property, is it something i should look into or is there better ways to spend.


You should seek independent financial advice rather than listen to randoms on the internet, etc.


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I never claimed to be an expert in vaccines.
I just thought locking down 1.6m people because 5 people who attended the same lunch at George's on Waymouth tested positive was a bit excessive.

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Re: I need to know....

Postby dedja » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:25 pm

Anyone can be a genius with hindsight. :D
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Re: I need to know....

Postby am Bays » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:16 am

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Re: I need to know....

Postby wenchbarwer » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:21 am

It's always the ones you most expect...
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Re: I need to know....

Postby dedja » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:29 am



Only as to why it took so long …
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:13 am

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I never claimed to be an expert in vaccines.
I just thought locking down 1.6m people because 5 people who attended the same lunch at George's on Waymouth tested positive was a bit excessive.

;)

I wasn't having a crack, I posted a similar meme on FB when the Russian/Ukrainian conflict began.

I love how so many of us claim to have the answers yet we all think so differently.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:47 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Trader wrote:
I never claimed to be an expert in vaccines.
I just thought locking down 1.6m people because 5 people who attended the same lunch at George's on Waymouth tested positive was a bit excessive.

;)

I wasn't having a crack, I posted a similar meme on FB when the Russian/Ukrainian conflict began.

I love how so many of us claim to have the answers yet we all think so differently.


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Re: I need to know....

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:51 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Trader wrote:
I never claimed to be an expert in vaccines.
I just thought locking down 1.6m people because 5 people who attended the same lunch at George's on Waymouth tested positive was a bit excessive.

;)

I wasn't having a crack, I posted a similar meme on FB when the Russian/Ukrainian conflict began.

I love how so many of us claim to have the answers yet we all think so differently.


The Woodville Pizza Bar was better
But, it is important to acquiesce to the "experts"


After the initial death threats etc. it certainly put them on the map, I know heaps of people that swear by their pizzas.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:31 pm

Should neglected heritage buildings remain on heritage registers?
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Re: I need to know....

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:40 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Should neglected heritage buildings remain on heritage registers?

That's why they're heritage listed.... been rundown and given rustic look :lol:
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:19 am

Armchair expert wrote:Should neglected heritage buildings remain on heritage registers?


The Heritage Places Act 1993 requires people to take 'reasonable care' of a State Heritage Place

They can be fined if they dont

Speaking of which: we just moved behind Cleo's Restaurant. Gees Nick has let that building go big time
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:25 am

Armchair expert wrote:Should neglected heritage buildings remain on heritage registers?


Fairly open ended question.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby dedja » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:30 am

Bell’s Plumbers Shop on Payneham Rd, opposite the Maid & Magpie … been like this for years.

Owner was fined, but made FA difference.

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Re: I need to know....

Postby Jim05 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:43 am

dedja wrote:Bell’s Plumbers Shop on Payneham Rd, opposite the Maid & Magpie … been like this years.

Owner was fined, but made FA difference.

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Yeah, I used to drive past it everyday and often wondered what the deal was.
Perhaps the government should be able to forcibly acquire a heritage property if adequate maintenance isn’t happening as it seems fines don’t work
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Re: I need to know....

Postby dedja » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:48 am

This article is 6 years old, don’t have an update… probably because there isn’t one.

There was an internal explosion (suspect the owner might have tried the equivalent of accidentally but on purpose poisoning a tree that a council won’t allow to be cut down) and it has a massive amount of graffiti … it’s amazing it’s still standing, but only just.

It’s actually ridiculous because the building is so dilapidated and damaged you’d have to completely rebuild it which would defeat the purpose of the heritage listing. #-o


https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenge ... 6b20f3a9a9

The first person convicted of neglecting a State Heritage-listed building has dropped his appeal against a $26,000 fine but the future of the decaying property remains unclear.

Environment Minister David Speirs said that a change of ownership of the derelict Bell’s Plumbers Shop — made during criminal proceedings against the previous owner of the College Park property — had left its future in doubt.

“It’s complicated because the ownership of the property has changed and the conviction was attached to the person, not the property,” he said.

He said the State Government was not looking at compulsory acquiring the property, though it was an option.

“I don’t want to make any specific commitments there,” Mr Speirs said.

“It’s something I’d have to take to Cabinet because it sets a particular precedent and obviously has a cost associated with it.”

Norwood Payneham and St Peter’s Council wrote to Mr Speirs this year urging him to compulsorily acquire the building and restore it.

Former owner Philip Leslie March was convicted in the Environment Resources and Development Court in August last year of failing to repair the 135-year-old building on Payneham Rd.

The conviction came nearly eight years after former Labor minister Paul Caica issued the first heritage protection order, compelling Mr March to repair the building, built in 1883 by former premier John Colton.

In February 2012, Mr March transferred the property to Panamanian registered company Omega Exploration Pty Ltd, whose sole director is Jesse Samuel Tolley, in a move Judge Jack Costello ruled at the time was “clearly designed” for him to avoid complying with a heritage protection order.

The Courts Administration Authority has told The Advertiser that Mr March dropped his appeal against his conviction in June.

Mr Tolley’s father Mark Tolley said he had “no comment” to make when asked what his son’s intentions were for the property. When asked if he was just going to let the building sit there, he said: “Yes, indeed.”

The building has been vandalised and damaged, most recently by a deliberately lit fire last year. Mr Speirs said the Government would “probably” take ownership of the property if Mr Tolley wanted to hand it over, which he thought would be unlikely considering its land value.

Local Mayor Robert Bria said more incentives were required to help owners of heritage properties bring them up to standard.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:55 am

dedja wrote:Bell’s Plumbers Shop on Payneham Rd, opposite the Maid & Magpie … been like this for years.

Owner was fined, but made FA difference.

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Re: I need to know....

Postby am Bays » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:03 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
When is Miley Cyrus coming?


That's a little personal isn't it???
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:13 pm

am Bays wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
When is Miley Cyrus coming?


That's a little personal isn't it???


Don't pretend you haven't wondered the same thing.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby whufc » Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:19 pm

dedja wrote:This article is 6 years old, don’t have an update… probably because there isn’t one.

There was an internal explosion (suspect the owner might have tried the equivalent of accidentally but on purpose poisoning a tree that a council won’t allow to be cut down) and it has a massive amount of graffiti … it’s amazing it’s still standing, but only just.

It’s actually ridiculous because the building is so dilapidated and damaged you’d have to completely rebuild it which would defeat the purpose of the heritage listing. #-o


https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenge ... 6b20f3a9a9

The first person convicted of neglecting a State Heritage-listed building has dropped his appeal against a $26,000 fine but the future of the decaying property remains unclear.

Environment Minister David Speirs said that a change of ownership of the derelict Bell’s Plumbers Shop — made during criminal proceedings against the previous owner of the College Park property — had left its future in doubt.

“It’s complicated because the ownership of the property has changed and the conviction was attached to the person, not the property,” he said.

He said the State Government was not looking at compulsory acquiring the property, though it was an option.

“I don’t want to make any specific commitments there,” Mr Speirs said.

“It’s something I’d have to take to Cabinet because it sets a particular precedent and obviously has a cost associated with it.”

Norwood Payneham and St Peter’s Council wrote to Mr Speirs this year urging him to compulsorily acquire the building and restore it.

Former owner Philip Leslie March was convicted in the Environment Resources and Development Court in August last year of failing to repair the 135-year-old building on Payneham Rd.

The conviction came nearly eight years after former Labor minister Paul Caica issued the first heritage protection order, compelling Mr March to repair the building, built in 1883 by former premier John Colton.

In February 2012, Mr March transferred the property to Panamanian registered company Omega Exploration Pty Ltd, whose sole director is Jesse Samuel Tolley, in a move Judge Jack Costello ruled at the time was “clearly designed” for him to avoid complying with a heritage protection order.

The Courts Administration Authority has told The Advertiser that Mr March dropped his appeal against his conviction in June.

Mr Tolley’s father Mark Tolley said he had “no comment” to make when asked what his son’s intentions were for the property. When asked if he was just going to let the building sit there, he said: “Yes, indeed.”

The building has been vandalised and damaged, most recently by a deliberately lit fire last year. Mr Speirs said the Government would “probably” take ownership of the property if Mr Tolley wanted to hand it over, which he thought would be unlikely considering its land value.

Local Mayor Robert Bria said more incentives were required to help owners of heritage properties bring them up to standard.


Only guessing but $26k proabbly wouldnt have went very far when it comes to fixing up that place.

Owner probably found it cheaper to pay the fine than it was to fix the building. I'm guessing the land itself has probably gone up in value so the owner probably isnt to fussed.
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