It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

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Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 10:23 am

mick wrote:
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mick wrote:The whole concept of an indigenous round is inherently racist.


No, it isn't.

It creates division based upon race what could be more racist? I believe it was conceived with good but misguided intentions


Last time I checked we were all free to celebrate indigenous round and attend the AFL matches, so no, there was no division.
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Postby therisingblues » Fri May 31, 2013 11:03 am

CENTURION wrote:I was in an Indian restaurant last night, speaking with the owners, full-blood Indians. They don't understand what the problem is.

Something been in the news recently involving Indians?
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Psyber » Fri May 31, 2013 11:21 am

HH3 wrote: No problem with celebrating different cultures. And no ones saying other cultures are less important. I think a lot of people are getting really sick of people crying racism over the smallest things. People are carrying on like Eddie grew a mini-mustache and tried to incite a Nazi uprising.
I agree with this.
The PC vigilantes and those with a victim mentality are looking for slights under every rock - a type of witch hunt.
Real racism should be opposed but let's not whip up hysteria over every word that can be misinterpreted as a racist attack rather than just the inherent and directionless rudeness/crassness it usually is.

Eddie's remark would have attracted little attention had it not been for the "ape" remark a few days earlier.
Yes it was insensitive of him to not wake up to the possible misinterpretation in that context, but it doesn't make him racist.
And normally Adam Goode's high profile would have been ideal for any promotional event.
(PS: I'm not an Eddie fan, or a Collingwood one.)

I was something of a fan of Adam Goodes as a player, but the recent behaviour has diminished him a little in my eyes.
He has come across as a bit "precious", and as a bit of an "ape" in the traditional sense - demonstrating less brain than brawn.

(I'll pre-empt the accusations of racism my comments may attract by simply saying I have friends of several nationalities, religions, and races.)
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Postby Wedgie » Fri May 31, 2013 11:25 am

Get rid of indigenous round if they also get rid of Christmas, Easter and Australia Day, well at least move Australia Day to Jan 1 when it should be, the day we became a nation.
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Postby Q. » Fri May 31, 2013 11:26 am

Psyber wrote:Real racism should be opposed but let's not whip up hysteria over every word that can be misinterpreted as a racist attack rather than just the inherent and directionless rudeness/crassness it usually is.


This is racism. Just because it isn't potent, doesn't make it any less racist.
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Psyber » Fri May 31, 2013 11:33 am

Q. wrote:
Psyber wrote:Real racism should be opposed but let's not whip up hysteria over every word that can be misinterpreted as a racist attack rather than just the inherent and directionless rudeness/crassness it usually is.
This is racism. Just because it isn't potent, doesn't make it any less racist.
I disagree.
People say a lot of things to each other that are simply rude and crass - even on this site.
It is only racist if people are denigrated because of their race, rather than for being bigots, or stupid, or simply unpleasant.
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Postby Footy Chick » Fri May 31, 2013 11:45 am

Racist: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

I think Asians are generally shitty drivers. I don't think they're an inferior race as a result though. :shock: Therefore - by definition, this comment isn't racist.

Besides...I think old people are generally shitty drivers too. ;) Someone want to accuse me of age-ism? :roll:

The PC police have a lot to answer for.

Racism should not be defined by anyone except those that are effected by it.

ie; Goodsy was within his rights to state that the word "ape" is offensive.

Eddie, by comparison has no right to preach to people what offends indigenous folk, WTF would he know...

The KKK by definition are racists.

Apartheid - racism.
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Postby CENTURION » Fri May 31, 2013 11:53 am

I think Barry Gibb looks like an ape but I don't hate poms!
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Postby Johno6 » Fri May 31, 2013 11:54 am

Footy Chick wrote:Racist: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

I think Asians are generally shitty drivers.

Is this racist? No, it's a generalisation. Because old people are generally shitty drivers too.


boy am I glad I am not an old Asian, or I think FC would hate/pick on me even more than she does now.
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Postby Psyber » Fri May 31, 2013 12:05 pm

My only prejudice about Asians is my impression formed over years that they tend to be obedient to authority.
That's why our public health industry likes them as medical staff - they tend not to makes waves or upset policy decisions.
(Not every one of them though.)
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Postby The Neck Breather » Fri May 31, 2013 1:13 pm

must be sooooo tough for adam goodes, playing the game he loves, getting paid millions of dollars to do it. reports saying he may not play this week because of the events of the past 6 days. he needs to harden up. him saying its a tradgedy that this has happened blah blah blah. a soldier getting run down in the street and macheted to death for defending his country is a tradgedy. adam goodes needs to have a good hard look at himself!
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby Psyber » Fri May 31, 2013 1:21 pm

Footy Chick wrote:Racist: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others
I think Asians are generally shitty drivers. I don't think they're an inferior race as a result though. :shock: Therefore - by definition, this comment isn't racist.

Besides...I think old people are generally shitty drivers too. ;) Someone want to accuse me of age-ism? :roll:

The PC police have a lot to answer for.
Racism should not be defined by anyone except those that are effected by it.
ie; Goodsy was within his rights to state that the word "ape" is offensive.
Eddie, by comparison has no right to preach to people what offends indigenous folk, WTF would he know...
The KKK by definition are racists.
Apartheid - racism.
1. I'd agree with you that many older people are shitty drivers.
2. In our law guilt for an action is generally defined by the intent of the active party, not by the interpretation of the complainant.
Goodes had the right to be offended by a rude remark, but that doesn't make it by definition racist.
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Postby CENTURION » Fri May 31, 2013 1:27 pm

I just think the girl drew a comparison between what Goodes and an ape look like, she wasn't intending to be racist. Goodes is big, muscular & hairy. This has gone too far. BUT I can understand why he was offended.
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Postby Wedgie » Fri May 31, 2013 1:29 pm

Women can't drive.
I'm not sexist, women just can't drive.
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Postby woodublieve12 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:29 pm

Footy Chick wrote:Racist: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

I think Asians are generally shitty drivers. I don't think they're an inferior race as a result though. :shock: Therefore - by definition, this comment isn't racist.

Besides...I think old people are generally shitty drivers too. ;) Someone want to accuse me of age-ism? :roll:

The PC police have a lot to answer for.

Racism should not be defined by anyone except those that are effected by it.

ie; Goodsy was within his rights to state that the word "ape" is offensive.

Eddie, by comparison has no right to preach to people what offends indigenous folk, WTF would he know...

The KKK by definition are racists.

Apartheid - racism.

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Postby Rik E Boy » Fri May 31, 2013 1:51 pm

CENTURION wrote:I was in an Indian restaurant last night, speaking with the owners, full-blood Indians. They don't understand what the problem is.


Because someone was offended. And there's your problem. Just because it doesn't bother some doesn't mean it doesn't not bother all.

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Postby CENTURION » Fri May 31, 2013 1:55 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
CENTURION wrote:I was in an Indian restaurant last night, speaking with the owners, full-blood Indians. They don't understand what the problem is.


Because someone was offended. And there's the problem. Just because it doesn't bother some doesn't mean it doesn't not bother all.

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just because someone is offended, doesn't mean it's racism.
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Postby Psyber » Fri May 31, 2013 1:57 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
CENTURION wrote:I was in an Indian restaurant last night, speaking with the owners, full-blood Indians. They don't understand what the problem is.
Because someone was offended. And there's your problem. Just because it doesn't bother some doesn't mean it doesn't not bother all.
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But how do any of us avoid offending someone?
There may be someone who finds our very existence offensive because of their philosophy, expectations, or social set...

I have an acquaintance (female) who seems to be offended because my hair is still brown - except at the temples - at 69.
She keeps hinting that I'm dyeing it - to the extent I've publicly invited her to inspect the roots for herself.
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby CENTURION » Fri May 31, 2013 1:59 pm

Psyber wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
CENTURION wrote:I was in an Indian restaurant last night, speaking with the owners, full-blood Indians. They don't understand what the problem is.
Because someone was offended. And there's your problem. Just because it doesn't bother some doesn't mean it doesn't not bother all.
regards,
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But how do any of us avoid offending someone?
There may be someone who finds our very existence offensive because of their philosophy or social set...

BINGO. I guess we just have to shutup and say nothing.
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Re: It's time. Racial Villification. What a load of Crap.

Postby cennals05 » Fri May 31, 2013 2:05 pm

Psyber wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
CENTURION wrote:I was in an Indian restaurant last night, speaking with the owners, full-blood Indians. They don't understand what the problem is.
Because someone was offended. And there's your problem. Just because it doesn't bother some doesn't mean it doesn't not bother all.
regards,
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But how do any of us avoid offending someone?
There may be someone who finds our very existence offensive because of their philosophy, expectations, or social set...

I have an acquaintance (female) who seems to be offended because my hair is still brown - except at the temples - at 69.
She keeps hinting that I'm dyeing it - to the extent I've publicly invited her to inspect the roots for herself.

Why does every post you make have to come back to some irrelevant story about how good you think you are?
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