Capital Punishment

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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:42 pm

Psyber wrote:
whufc wrote:Instead of death penalty i would rather see a punishment where a person is punished for life in jail with absolutly "NO" chance of being realsed before they die. No paroles nothing, in jail until they cark it.
The inhibiting factor there is cost.
On the other hand there have been a number of cases reported in the US where people have been executed and there has been no doubt, but the later evidence not originally available - like DNA - has raised doubt.
I have mixed feelings about the death penalty at all, and I'd certainly want to restrict it to proven repeat offenders.


I'm not sure of current figures but up until 2005 14 people on death row (awaiting excecution) were exonerated and released when DNA was introduced to their case.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Dirko » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:47 pm

After seeing 60 minutes last night they should bring it back to rid the world of this piece of shit called Ramazan Acar

http://www.news.com.au/national/ramazan-acar-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-daughter-yazmina/story-e6frfkvr-1226085746990
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby southee » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:55 pm

SJABC wrote:After seeing 60 minutes last night they should bring it back to rid the world of this piece of shit called Ramazan Acar

http://www.news.com.au/national/ramazan-acar-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-daughter-yazmina/story-e6frfkvr-1226085746990


Needs to be given a very slow painful death .... Sickening stuff !!
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Straight Line » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:30 pm

southee wrote:
SJABC wrote:After seeing 60 minutes last night they should bring it back to rid the world of this piece of shit called Ramazan Acar

http://www.news.com.au/national/ramazan-acar-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-daughter-yazmina/story-e6frfkvr-1226085746990


Needs to be given a very slow painful death .... Sickening stuff !!


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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby overloaded » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:53 pm

No doubt a true piece of Sh1t....

Bring back the death penalty.... It costs US ALL $180 per day to keep these pices of sh1t alive in prison.

Hang them.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Media Park » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:56 pm

There are reasons why I agree with capital punishment, but it will never come back. Not in this day and age.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby cripple » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:17 pm

Capital punisment is all well and good until you get that one person that is innocent incorrectly convicted and then killed for a crime they did not commit. Unfortunately we don't live in a society we're we can know for sure and as such I disagree with it as a punishment. Its probably tougher on the poor sucker to be stuck in a cell for the rest of his/ her life anyway.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Psyber » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:10 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
whufc wrote:Instead of death penalty i would rather see a punishment where a person is punished for life in jail with absolutly "NO" chance of being realsed before they die. No paroles nothing, in jail until they cark it.
I think that's a fair call.
The government doesn't like "no early release" - the cost per day of keeping someone in gaol has always been pretty steep.
I am a little sympathetic to the concept of a death penalty for really horrific crimes, and repeating violent offenders, but one has to be very sure about the convictions.
There have been a few wrongful convictions here and abroad over the years...
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Barto » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:07 pm

I'm keen if I can choose the crimes that carry the penalty.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby overloaded » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:21 pm

Psyber wrote:There have been a few wrongful convictions here and abroad over the years...


A few? .... About 50% if you ask the spuds doing time :roll:
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Q. » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:46 pm

It takes a special kind of hypocrisy to denounce murder and then justify murder on your own terms.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby dedja » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:16 pm

Quichey wrote:It takes a special kind of hypocrisy to denounce murder and then justify murder on your own terms.


Exactly ... how can one type of murder be illegal and the other lawful and sanctioned by the State?
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby mick » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:08 am

I'm a fan of Sharia law, its very difficult to be a thief or assault people with no legs and very difficult to murder again with no head :lol: Amputations on habitual criminals is an alternative to the expensive process of keeping them in prison. Horrific murderers could have all limbs amputated and then released, their own bodies would become the prison - of course these extreme punishments should only take place with 100% no doubt of guilt. Judicial caning could be a viable cheap alternative to prison for relative minor criminal offences. Those who identify as indigenous would become subject to traditional punishments such as spearing. We could empty the prisons!
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Q. » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:48 am

dedja wrote:
Quichey wrote:It takes a special kind of hypocrisy to denounce murder and then justify murder on your own terms.


Exactly ... how can one type of murder be illegal and the other lawful and sanctioned by the State?


Which leads to the brutalization effect, higher murder rates and a less safe society.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:50 am

Good news. Capital Punishment is back!!! Everyone who agrees with it will have there name put on a data base and when the next execution is scheduled your name might be picked to carry it out.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby overloaded » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:57 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:Good news. Capital Punishment is back!!! Everyone who agrees with it will have there name put on a data base and when the next execution is scheduled your name might be picked to carry it out.

PICK ME !!!! PICK ME!!!!!
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Booney » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:10 am

overloaded wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:Good news. Capital Punishment is back!!! Everyone who agrees with it will have there name put on a data base and when the next execution is scheduled your name might be picked to carry it out.

PICK ME !!!! PICK ME!!!!!


PICK HIM!!!! PICK HIM!!!!

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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:16 am

Booney wrote:
overloaded wrote:PICK ME !!!! PICK ME!!!!!


PICK HIM!!!! PICK HIM!!!!

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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:19 am

If the majority of argument for Capital Punishment is cost then you are fighting a losing battle, it was proven to cost more to keep someone on Death Row than it is to jail them for life.

I'm not sure of the exactly how much more it costs but I believe it is in the vicinity of ten times the cost.
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Re: Capital Punishment

Postby Psyber » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:24 am

Zelezny Chucks wrote:If the majority of argument for Capital Punishment is cost then you are fighting a losing battle, it was proven to cost more to keep someone on Death Row than it is to jail them for life.
I'm not sure of the exactly how much more it costs but I believe it is in the vicinity of ten times the cost.
I guess the obvious solution is to execute them promptly on conviction and not keep them in costly accommodation long - perhaps ban appeals? ;)
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