Kapunda Killer

[Q.]

The problem is that with people who commit serious offences when young:
- some are just immature and impulsive and may have behaved differently in a more stable environment.
- some of the above will mature in time with external control provided and change.
- some would have behaved more rationally if they were not off their faces on something.
- some are insane.
- some are marginally insane but not diagnosable as such at the time.
- some are lastingly impulsive and unstable, if not technically insane.
- some are simply sociopathic, will not change, and can't be treated - the latest research suggests this pattern it may be a neurological wiring deficit.

The problem with this lad is what will show up in time and what changes, if any, will time bring?
These are just some of the imponderables that will shape what happens to him over the years.

After getting pillaged in max security prison I'm sure he'll turn out to be a normal kinda bloke.

[Psyber]

After getting pillaged in max security prison I'm sure he'll turn out to be a normal kinda bloke.

Yep, that's another factor!

[Jimmy_041]

35 years of "make the bad man stop" should sort out most of his problems, except sleeping at night

[The Sleeping Giant]

The problem is that with people who commit serious offences when young:
- some are just immature and impulsive and may have behaved differently in a more stable environment.
- some of the above will mature in time with external control provided and change.
- some would have behaved more rationally if they were not off their faces on something.
- some are insane.
- some are marginally insane but not diagnosable as such at the time.
- some are lastingly impulsive and unstable, if not technically insane.
- some are simply sociopathic, will not change, and can't be treated - the latest research suggests this pattern it may be a neurological wiring deficit.

The problem with this lad is what will show up in time and what changes, if any, will time bring?
These are just some of the imponderables that will shape what happens to him over the years.

After getting pillaged in max security prison I'm sure he'll turn out to be a normal kinda bloke.

What do you think should happen to him Quichey?

[The Big Shrek]

The problem is that with people who commit serious offences when young:
- some are just immature and impulsive and may have behaved differently in a more stable environment.
- some of the above will mature in time with external control provided and change.
- some would have behaved more rationally if they were not off their faces on something.
- some are insane.
- some are marginally insane but not diagnosable as such at the time.
- some are lastingly impulsive and unstable, if not technically insane.
- some are simply sociopathic, will not change, and can't be treated - the latest research suggests this pattern it may be a neurological wiring deficit.

The problem with this lad is what will show up in time and what changes, if any, will time bring?
These are just some of the imponderables that will shape what happens to him over the years.

Sometimes bad stuff happens unexplicibly. I suspect that is the case here.

I always think it is weird when people talk about Downie or other 'one off' offenders having 'good prospects of rehabilitation'. Doesn't have a drug problem or mental health issues and is very likely not to do this again. What does being rehabilitated from a triple murder(and a rape that got dropped) actually mean?

[dedja]

Maybe get Hans Blix to write him a nasty letter ...

[Q.]

The problem is that with people who commit serious offences when young:
- some are just immature and impulsive and may have behaved differently in a more stable environment.
- some of the above will mature in time with external control provided and change.
- some would have behaved more rationally if they were not off their faces on something.
- some are insane.
- some are marginally insane but not diagnosable as such at the time.
- some are lastingly impulsive and unstable, if not technically insane.
- some are simply sociopathic, will not change, and can't be treated - the latest research suggests this pattern it may be a neurological wiring deficit.

The problem with this lad is what will show up in time and what changes, if any, will time bring?
These are just some of the imponderables that will shape what happens to him over the years.

After getting pillaged in max security prison I'm sure he'll turn out to be a normal kinda bloke.

What do you think should happen to him Quichey?

Think they got it right, even though I favour a Norwegian-style justice system. Let's face it, he doesn't have to be released after his non-parole has expired.

[Dogwatcher]

He won't be released.

I've also been talking to someone who has attended all of the hearings and, while you can read everything that was officially said in the courts on-line, there's a subtext to many of the comments made to him across the court room by those in attendance at the sessions. Cryptic comments made here and there during the sessions may suggest that those of you thirsting for Big House retribution may just get what you're hoping for.

This has been a tough case to read and write about. Chilling, awful stuff.

[Q.]

Statistically speaking, there's a good chance he'll neck himself early in his sentence anyway.

[Footy Smart]

He won't be released.

I've also been talking to someone who has attended all of the hearings and, while you can read everything that was officially said in the courts on-line, there's a subtext to many of the comments made to him across the court room by those in attendance at the sessions. Cryptic comments made here and there during the sessions may suggest that those of you thirsting for Big House retribution may just get what you're hoping for.

This has been a tough case to read and write about. Chilling, awful stuff.

He hasnt chosen the right family to mess with from all reports....

[Jimmy_041]

http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/sr/0417_downie_jason_downie.htm

[RustyCage]

The important thing is that the lad gets the rehabilitation he needs to be able to re-enter society in 35 years time and hopefully he can positively contribute to society.

oh yay! we should really look forward to having him back on the streets then! Can't wait

[Dirko]

http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/sr/0417_downie_jason_downie.htm

That is a truly harrowing read. Absolutely terrifying.

He will never see the light of day as a free man again, and nor should he.....

[Booney]

http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/sr/0417_downie_jason_downie.htm

That is a truly harrowing read. Absolutely terrifying.

He will never see the light of day as a free man again, and nor should he.....

Agreed, just finished reading it myself and what a shocking series of events. Be difficult to think or a more brutal way of being murdered.

His actions over the next few days are as sickening as the ones on the night of the murders.

[goraw]

wow after that read i really feel for that poor girl.i hope he is paired up with BIG BUBBA in there and is pounded on an hourly basis.

for the boyfriend , he must be going through hell, knowing if he was there he would have been attacked aswell. to feeling absolutely hopeless that he wasnt there to protect her.i feel for him aswell. and of course all the family.

[goraw]

infact they should strap him up, rub half cooked meat over him next to a wasp nest.friggen asshole!!

[The Sleeping Giant]

[url]http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/sr/0417_downie_jason_downie.htm[/url]

What a sick bastard.

[HH3]

I dont understand how they can say he has no psychological problems?

A person of sound mind would not have commited those sorts of crimes. Raping and killing, as well as necrophilia (because he thought she was dead when he raped her) are not things someone would do without having some sort of psychological issue.

[Jimmy_041]

Interesting they didn't go for rape and something else (!) as well

Maybe it was going to defend those so they were prepared to stick to the 3 murder convictions

[Lightning McQueen]

I dont understand how they can say he has no psychological problems?

A person of sound mind would not have commited those sorts of crimes. Raping and killing, as well as necrophilia (because he thought she was dead when he raped her) are not things someone would do without having some sort of psychological issue.

Probably helped the sentencing by not declaring him mentally unstable.