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Postby saintal » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:42 pm

Some slightly relevant news today:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 063298.htm

The immigration minister at the time the law was changed, Philip Ruddock, accepts the High Court ruling but says it will clog up Australia's legal system.

"In terms of being able to manage Australia's borders this will be a diabolical decision. It will increase rapidly the numbers of people seeking to access Australia," he said.

"I don't dispute the court's entitlement to come to a view. But the outcome will have very significant implications for Australia and the capacity to be able to manage our borders."

Mr Ruddock says the courts will struggle to cope with the number of cases.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby redandblack » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:46 pm

Ruddock, certainly one of the worst ministers ever to hold office, wouldn't know if his arse was on fire and misses the point of this decision completely.

This decision by the High Court blows away some of the nastier misconceptions about the legality of asylum seekers.
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Postby fish » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:58 pm

Good news: my mate, who lives in Nairne, has scored a job at the Inverbrackie detention centre! :-bd
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Psyber » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:38 am

redandblack wrote:Ruddock, certainly one of the worst ministers ever to hold office, wouldn't know if his arse was on fire and misses the point of this decision completely.
This decision by the High Court blows away some of the nastier misconceptions about the legality of asylum seekers.
And raises, in some sections of the community, concerns about the validity and composition of the High Court? ;)
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:38 pm

More good news from this weeks Hills Courier:

http://thecouriernews.blogspot.com/2010/11/schools-would-welcome-asylum-seeker.html

Schools would welcome asylum seeker children
Fifteen schools within the Hills have expressed an interest in teaching children from the proposed detention centre at Inverbrackie.
It has not yet been confirmed whether the students will be educated in an on-site facility or if they will attend neighboring schools when they start school next year.
The Education Department has been approached by schools across the district indicating their willingness to host the children.
John Balnaves, principal of the Woodside Primary School, said he had spoken with the department's regional director, the school's governing council and staff about having the children at the school.


Looks like the schools are showing the positive attitude and generosity of spirit that is sadly lacking in the wider community of Woodside. :ymapplause:
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Squawk » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:01 pm

fish wrote:More good news from this weeks Hills Courier:

http://thecouriernews.blogspot.com/2010/11/schools-would-welcome-asylum-seeker.html

Schools would welcome asylum seeker children
Fifteen schools within the Hills have expressed an interest in teaching children from the proposed detention centre at Inverbrackie.
It has not yet been confirmed whether the students will be educated in an on-site facility or if they will attend neighboring schools when they start school next year.
The Education Department has been approached by schools across the district indicating their willingness to host the children.
John Balnaves, principal of the Woodside Primary School, said he had spoken with the department's regional director, the school's governing council and staff about having the children at the school.


Looks like the schools are showing the positive attitude and generosity of spirit that is sadly lacking in the wider community of Woodside. :ymapplause:


More students = more govt funds and resources, fish. They will be looking to get coin from the Cwlth and State govts to take them on, and this is a quick and easy way to draw more revenue in.

Ironically, Bellevue Heights Primary School has a specialty in educating refugees yet the state govt has cut school bus subsidies so many who travel some distance to attend that school are now left in limbo.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby saintal » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:42 am

Squawk wrote:
fish wrote:More good news from this weeks Hills Courier:

http://thecouriernews.blogspot.com/2010/11/schools-would-welcome-asylum-seeker.html

Schools would welcome asylum seeker children
Fifteen schools within the Hills have expressed an interest in teaching children from the proposed detention centre at Inverbrackie.
It has not yet been confirmed whether the students will be educated in an on-site facility or if they will attend neighboring schools when they start school next year.
The Education Department has been approached by schools across the district indicating their willingness to host the children.
John Balnaves, principal of the Woodside Primary School, said he had spoken with the department's regional director, the school's governing council and staff about having the children at the school.


Looks like the schools are showing the positive attitude and generosity of spirit that is sadly lacking in the wider community of Woodside. :ymapplause:


More students = more govt funds and resources, fish. They will be looking to get coin from the Cwlth and State govts to take them on, and this is a quick and easy way to draw more revenue in.

Ironically, Bellevue Heights Primary School has a specialty in educating refugees yet the state govt has cut school bus subsidies so many who travel some distance to attend that school are now left in limbo.


Have to once again agree with Squawk on this one. Schools will be thinking “What can we get out of this?” and most will welcome the influx of funds and infrastructure. A lot of Hills schools will be feeling the pinch in 2011 due to cuts in grants etc. Whilst Woodside PS is basically at capacity, other schools in the neighbouring area could probably use a few extra classes. (Oakbank AS comes to mind)

Both Villawood and Broadmeadows once gain have been in the news recently for all the wrong reasons.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Squawk » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:14 am

here's an article about funding cutbacks affecting refugees at Bellevue Hts Primary School.

http://hills-and-valley-messenger.whereilive.com.au/news/story/bus-cuts-blow-for-refugees/
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:04 pm

saintal wrote:
Squawk wrote:
fish wrote:More good news from this weeks Hills Courier:

http://thecouriernews.blogspot.com/2010/11/schools-would-welcome-asylum-seeker.html

Schools would welcome asylum seeker children
Fifteen schools within the Hills have expressed an interest in teaching children from the proposed detention centre at Inverbrackie.
It has not yet been confirmed whether the students will be educated in an on-site facility or if they will attend neighboring schools when they start school next year.
The Education Department has been approached by schools across the district indicating their willingness to host the children.
John Balnaves, principal of the Woodside Primary School, said he had spoken with the department's regional director, the school's governing council and staff about having the children at the school.


Looks like the schools are showing the positive attitude and generosity of spirit that is sadly lacking in the wider community of Woodside. :ymapplause:


More students = more govt funds and resources, fish. They will be looking to get coin from the Cwlth and State govts to take them on, and this is a quick and easy way to draw more revenue in.

Ironically, Bellevue Heights Primary School has a specialty in educating refugees yet the state govt has cut school bus subsidies so many who travel some distance to attend that school are now left in limbo.


Have to once again agree with Squawk on this one. Schools will be thinking “What can we get out of this?” and most will welcome the influx of funds and infrastructure. A lot of Hills schools will be feeling the pinch in 2011 due to cuts in grants etc. Whilst Woodside PS is basically at capacity, other schools in the neighbouring area could probably use a few extra classes. (Oakbank AS comes to mind)
Well you guys sure have a negative view of life these days :roll:

I would like to post the full article, which describes the various schools motivation for seeking the placement of the students, but I'm not computer savvy enough to do so. I have it saved as a pdf but don't know how can I insert it into a comment?
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:24 am

Meanwhile up in Woodside some very disturbing fliers are being distributed:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/20/3071900.htm?section=justin

The Adelaide Hills council is considering legal action to stop a group drumming up community anger over asylum seekers.

Mayor Bill Spragg says the Australia First Party is letterboxing homes with a flyer that vilifies asylum seekers and incites people to take action against them.

He says it also urges residents near the new Inverbrackie detention centre to shun anyone who expresses support for asylum seekers.

Cr Spragg says he has received numerous calls from people outraged by the material.

"We have been talking to the locals about their concerns and I believe we were making reasonable progress with that and to have this group come in and try to undo all the good work that's been done is really a big concern," he said. He says it urges local people to shun anyone who embraces the asylum seekers.

"Well we're looking at, we're going to seek legal advice to see whether they've breached any laws and if they have we'll take action against them to try to prevent them distributing any more of these flyers," he said.


This confirms my assertion all along that racial hatred and intolerance are at the core of the opposition to the Detention Centre proposal. :evil:
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Postby redden whites » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:20 am

Maybe Jackie Kelly one of Howards darlings was helping with this race hate letterbox drop too.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:53 pm

The newly elected Adelaide Hills Mayor is showing some leadership on the issue:

http://thecouriernews.blogspot.com/2010/11/toxic-protest.html

'TOXIC' PROTEST
Adelaide Hills Mayor Bill Spragg is urging residents to destroy "toxic" Inverbrackie detention centre protest flyers being circulated in the Hills by the Australia First Party.
The flyers call for a community strike through the public shunning of residents, businesses, churches and other groups who "collaborate" with the Immigration Department or communicate or help the 400 asylum seekers expected to arrive in the region next month.
Mr Spragg said Hills people might hold different opinions about the 80 empty army houses being converted into a detention centre, particularly the Federal Government's lack of consultation, but this flyer was divisive, vilified the asylum seekers and incited actions against people who had nothing to do with the decision.
"This flyer incites hatred and has no place in the Adelaide Hills," he said.


The article also reports that the leaflet says:

No Australian should communicate with any so called refugee. :shock:
No Australian should attend any church or group that supports the invasion. :shock:
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:27 pm

Meanwhile a story in todays Advertiser says that the WA town of Leonora is quite happy six months after their detention centre became operational.

I can't find a link to the article but, to quote it: "residents say the detention centre has not had a negative impact on the area. They say house prices have stayed the same, there has been no impact on local infrastructure and there have been no security issues"

"It's just been great for the town. It's fabulous - all positive"


I did find this link to an ABC article from July:

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s2946305.htm
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:51 pm

fish wrote:The article also reports that the leaflet says:

No Australian should communicate with any so called refugee. :shock:
No Australian should attend any church or group that supports the invasion. :shock:


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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:28 pm

Was at the Blackwood pagent last Friday night and there was a float in support of inverbrackie and welcoming the refugees
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Psyber » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:32 am

Dutchy wrote:Was at the Blackwood pagent last Friday night and there was a float in support of inverbrackie and welcoming the refugees
Obviously meaningful as none of them live anywhere near Woodside. I wonder how they feel if it were to be at Glen Alta or Blackwood Park?
I'm minding my own business, and not making a public display, as although I live in the Stirling area, which is much closer to the intended site, it is still a long way from Woodside.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:35 am

Psyber wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Was at the Blackwood pagent last Friday night and there was a float in support of inverbrackie and welcoming the refugees
Obviously meaningful as none of them live anywhere near Woodside. I wonder how they feel if it were to be at Glen Alta or Blackwood Park?

What a terrible insult to the brave and warm-hearted people who openly support refugees in this town. :evil:

I know many people who support refugees through the Circle of Friends (refugee support group) and Amnesty International and these people have not only travelled far and wide to assist those in detention but have put refugees up in their own homes for extended periods in order to assist their transition into the community. They are far from the NIMBY's that your comment implies them to be.

The real NIMBY's are the cold-hearted and selfish people of Woodside - not all of them but many of them. Psyber if you are looking at people to put down for being NIMBY's I suggest you start there.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Psyber » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:30 am

fish wrote:
Psyber wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Was at the Blackwood pagent last Friday night and there was a float in support of inverbrackie and welcoming the refugees
Obviously meaningful as none of them live anywhere near Woodside. I wonder how they feel if it were to be at Glen Alta or Blackwood Park?
What a terrible insult to the brave and warm-hearted people who openly support refugees in this town. :evil:

I know many people who support refugees through the Circle of Friends (refugee support group) and Amnesty International and these people have not only travelled far and wide to assist those in detention but have put refugees up in their own homes for extended periods in order to assist their transition into the community. They are far from the NIMBY's that your comment implies them to be.

The real NIMBY's are the cold-hearted and selfish people of Woodside - not all of them but many of them. Psyber if you are looking at people to put down for being NIMBY's I suggest you start there.

I'm inclined to see it as a local issue for local people, who need time for discussion and consultation and to be satisfied and reconciled that it is a good solution.
Those who campaign to make other people embrace their views, and abuse them if they don't rush to do so without adequate debate and consideration, have only my contempt for there anti-democratic attempt to impose their world view on all.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby saintal » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:50 am

Psyber wrote:
fish wrote:
Psyber wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Was at the Blackwood pagent last Friday night and there was a float in support of inverbrackie and welcoming the refugees
Obviously meaningful as none of them live anywhere near Woodside. I wonder how they feel if it were to be at Glen Alta or Blackwood Park?
What a terrible insult to the brave and warm-hearted people who openly support refugees in this town. :evil:

I know many people who support refugees through the Circle of Friends (refugee support group) and Amnesty International and these people have not only travelled far and wide to assist those in detention but have put refugees up in their own homes for extended periods in order to assist their transition into the community. They are far from the NIMBY's that your comment implies them to be.

The real NIMBY's are the cold-hearted and selfish people of Woodside - not all of them but many of them. Psyber if you are looking at people to put down for being NIMBY's I suggest you start there.

I'm inclined to see it as a local issue for local people, who need time for discussion and consultation and to be satisfied and reconciled that it is a good solution.
Those who campaign to make other people embrace their views, and abuse them if they don't rush to do so without adequate debate and consideration, have only my contempt for there anti-democratic attempt to impose their world view on all.


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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:42 pm

Psyber wrote:Those who campaign to make other people embrace their views, and abuse them if they don't rush to do so without adequate debate and consideration, have only my contempt for there anti-democratic attempt to impose their world view on all.

Psyber I'm assuming you are referring to the people who howled down the pro-refugee speakers at the Woodside public meeting?
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