Things that give you the sh1ts

[tipper]

you could get yourself a nice little sideline there dedja, i would take you up on it, but i may be significantly further from the rollout than you are. i mean para hills is sorta close to modbury isnt it??

it actually gives me the shits that as far as i am aware it is as yet undetermined when para hills will be getting the NBN. i cant wait to get hooked up to it.

[Kahuna]

Para Hills is in the Modbury exchange area

[dedja]

you could get yourself a nice little sideline there dedja, i would take you up on it, but i may be significantly further from the rollout than you are. i mean para hills is sorta close to modbury isnt it??

it actually gives me the shits that as far as i am aware it is as yet undetermined when para hills will be getting the NBN. i cant wait to get hooked up to it.

Well considering Simon Hackett has now sold out, someone else has to fly the local flag ... I'm up for it

[Kahuna]

The NBN rollout (Modbury) is literally 100m on the other side on the Torrens from me ... bastards

75 from me Dedja.

No matter, I'm only 9kms from the nearest exchange which is monopolised by Tel$tra and the bastards won't let the other ISPs in.

I'm going to grab some fibre from work and splice into the faarking NBN network ...

I'm guessing you are fed from Paradise exchange,Dedja.
What do you mean they won't let other ISPs in?
Any number of providers service Paradise.

[dedja]

Yes, on the paradise exchange, and yes, there are other ISPs in there ...

I'm on a cmux allowing adsl1 (well, Tel$tra's variant) so I'm on about 6500/384, but you need to allow ISPs full access from the street to the exchange, which Tel$tra are extremely loathe to do.

So in my case, the limiting factor is the rim/cmux, hence I'm stuck on Tel$tra wholesale until the NBN arrives.

[tipper]

Para Hills is in the Modbury exchange area

yes, but it is not included in the NBN rollout yet. i just want an approximate date as to when it will be in my street.

and Dedja, ill work out an approximate distance from my place to the NBN and you give me a price ok??

[dedja]

Deal ...

[mickey]

Yes, on the paradise exchange, and yes, there are other ISPs in there ...

I'm on a cmux allowing adsl1 (well, Tel$tra's variant) so I'm on about 6500/384, but you need to allow ISPs full access from the street to the exchange, which Tel$tra are extremely loathe to do.

So in my case, the limiting factor is the rim/cmux, hence I'm stuck on Tel$tra wholesale until the NBN arrives.

What the **** does that say in english.....

[dedja]

Basically Tel$tra suck ...

[Kahuna]

Basically Tel$tra suck ...

How so? They have provided infrastructure to allow you a service.

[mickey]

Basically Tel$tra suck ...

How so? They have provided infrastructure to allow you a service.

Didn't the federal government provide it then privatised the company?

[tipper]

they have provided dedja with the infrastructure for a service, but only if he aquires said service through them, and they suck cash from customers like dracula sucks blood from victims. they dont allow the "competition" access to the same infrastructure so Dedja is either stuck without the service he desires, or stuck using telstra.

they monopolise the infrastructure to their own benefit, not customers, and i thought there was supposed to be regulation in place to stop it happening, but that is obviously ineffective.

[Kahuna]

Basically Tel$tra suck ...

How so? They have provided infrastructure to allow you a service.

Didn't the federal government provide it then privatised the company?

For which Telstra repaid the Government in full.
My point is that Telstra are always vilified when people complain about what services they can/can't get.
Other providers can provide services in these locations but choose not to on economic grounds.
Telstra provide a service and apparently still suck.

[Kahuna]

they have provided dedja with the infrastructure for a service, but only if he aquires said service through them, and they suck cash from customers like dracula sucks blood from victims. they dont allow the "competition" access to the same infrastructure so Dedja is either stuck without the service he desires, or stuck using telstra.

they monopolise the infrastructure to their own benefit, not customers, and i thought there was supposed to be regulation in place to stop it happening, but that is obviously ineffective.

As I said other ISPs can provide adjunct housings to RIMS/CMUXes but choose not to.

[Thiele]

My car braking down

[Pseudo]

My car braking down

... because you were trying to accelerate at the time?

[dedja]

Basically Tel$tra suck ...

How so? They have provided infrastructure to allow you a service.

Didn't the federal government provide it then privatised the company?

For which Telstra repaid the Government in full.
My point is that Telstra are always vilified when people complain about what services they can/can't get.
Other providers can provide services in these locations but choose not to on economic grounds.
Telstra provide a service and apparently still suck.

Not so ... Internode have tried many times to install their equipment but either Tel$tra won't let them in, or charge excessive wholesale rates knowing that it can't be viable to other ISPs.

They have used their monopoly to stifle competition and the government has let them do it until recently to maximize returns when they privatised them.

The government should have structurally separated them into wholesale and retail years ago, but at last have done so as one of Tel$tra's conditions to participate in the NBN.

I've lost count the number of times the ACCC have found them in breach.

[Psyber]

Telstra provide a service and apparently still suck.

Yep - and I say that most sincerely as a Telstra shareholder.
They use the monopoly to prevent competition and charge excessively for a poor service - or they did when I was stuck with them some years ago.
I have written to Shareholder Services pointing out why I do not now use any of their uncompetitive services, despite being a shareholder.

They promised a reply from Customer Services, which department they referred my complaint to, but I never got one.
I wasn't surprised at that...

[Kahuna]

Telstra provide a service and apparently still suck.

Yep - and I say that most sincerely as a Telstra shareholder.
They use the monopoly to prevent competition and charge excessively for a poor service - or they did when I was stuck with them some years ago.
I have written to Shareholder Services pointing out why I do not now use any of their uncompetitive services, despite being a shareholder.

They promised a reply from Customer Services, which department they referred my complaint to, but I never got one.
I wasn't surprised at that...

How good are the services not provided by any other company?

[mickey]

Why the staunch defense of Telstra??