Kapunda Killer

[overloaded]

Why concentrate on the 1 in a million that thew jury gets wrong.

What about the 999,999 they get right?

Geez .....poor one in a million

[Zelezny Chucks]

Why concentrate on the 1 in a million that thew jury gets wrong.

What about the 999,999 they get right?

Geez .....poor one in a million

I hope, for anyone who has the misfortune of knowing you personally, you are trolling right now.

[Jim05]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

[GWW]

The problem is, would he have confessed if capital punishment was an option. Perhaps not.

[BIG SEXY]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

plenty of examples of "confessions" being coersed etc.

[overloaded]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

This is what I am talking about. But Zelzeny cant see past that poor 1 in a million bloke

[tipper]

no where did you state anything about confessions, you stated if they were convicted by a jury, which is a very different scenario. and it should be all about that one in a million (it would actually be many more than that i am sure btw), once again, are you happy killing that one innocent person? just because they had incompetent lawers, or extreemely bad luck you are happy to end their life?

[HH3]

Thats murder in my book...

[Q.]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

This is what I am talking about. But Zelzeny cant see past that poor 1 in a million bloke

It's a helluva lot less than 1-in-a-million. In the US, since 1973, 140 people have been released from death row with evidence of their innocence.

[Q.]

I just couldn't stay out of this moronic thread

[Booney]

I just couldn't stay out of this moronic thread

I knew you'd be back...

[Q.]

I just couldn't stay out of this moronic thread

I knew you'd be back...

Crusader complex

[Q.]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

[westcoastpanther]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Comparing us to Hitler is a joke, he slaughtered innocent people. We just want to cleanse the world of murderers. What a comparison that is.....

[OnSong]

So, if capital punishment were an option, how many posters would like to see the Kapunda killer executed as opposed to a life sentence?

[The Ash Man]

Personally, if it was me who committed the crime I would prefer the death penalty to jail for the rest of my life.

[HH3]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Comparing us to Hitler is a joke, he slaughtered innocent people. We just want to cleanse the world of murderers. What a comparison that is.....

So you want to murder murderers? Does that mean once hes gone you have to execute the executioner, and then execute the executioner that executed the executioner, etc etc?

[Hondo]

The problem is that people say "oh, I know capital punishment has its problems so we should just do it when there is no doubt, the person confesses and the crime is murder".

So that probably captures maybe, what, 5 people in Australia per year? How many actually confess and how many would confess if there was capital punishment?

So then you need to cast a wider net. "OK, no-one is confessing anymore so let's remove the confession part - we will have capital punishment when there is no doubt and when its murder".

So then how then do you determine no doubt, absolutely 100% no doubt in the absence of a confession? Do we have to have video footage? It's very tough to prove a case with absolutely no doubt.

So then we have to concede to there being no "reasonable" doubt (and we don't need a confession). Then once we get that we create the risk of innocent people being put to death as is evidenced in places where they have capital punishment.

The next step would be that the extemists will want to cast a wider net to include peodphiles, rapists, drunk drivers who kill someone, manslaughter cases ... it will go on. Every time there is a crime that makes us feel angry we will want capital punishment.

Letting them rot in prison, stewing on their crime and wasted life, is IMO a far better punishment anyway.

[Q.]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Criminological science that bases argument on fact, not emotion.

[Psyber]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

This is what I am talking about. But Zelzeny cant see past that poor 1 in a million bloke

I'd be very surprised if incorrect convictions were only one in a million.
Police and prosecutors are, after all, under pressure regarding clear up rates.