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Already forgotten. Helps that I didn't see one second of the game thank jeebus. Lose this week and I'll get the boat and bike ready for the dry season.

The Sleeping Giant wrote:

bennymacca wrote:

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Look out. The Webber fanboys are here. Stats don't lie. Webber was below average. In one of the greatest race car teams in history, and could only just scrap together the odd win, while his teammate went 4 world champs straight.

Enjoy watching him drive around in the never was championship.

You obviously know nothing about F1. There is always a number 2 driver that gets the raw end of the stick. And you do realise he was leading a world championship until the final race a few years ago?

If you knew, or watched any F1 it was continuously stated Vettel and Webber were equals and not 1 and 2. Rosberg and Hamilton are equals. Alonso and Raikkonen are equals.

Go away little boy. You are obviously full of shit mate, and have just been found out.

WTF, you don't actually believe that WEB and VET actually were treated equally by the team do you? Even people involved in F1 don't believe that, people in the team don't believe that, other drivers don't believe that. Even Martin Brundle said numerous times that VET got preferential treatment.

Ferrari used to say Schuey and Rubens and Schuey and Eddie Irvine were equal too. At least by the time Massa got there they were more open about the roles of the drivers.

Depends if you want to listen to a whinging Webber or the rest of Red Bull.

Fact is, Webber was never as good as half the field he raced against. Was in one of the best cars of all time and struggled to wins.

RustyCage wrote:

The Sleeping Giant wrote:

bennymacca wrote:

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Look out. The Webber fanboys are here. Stats don't lie. Webber was below average. In one of the greatest race car teams in history, and could only just scrap together the odd win, while his teammate went 4 world champs straight.

Enjoy watching him drive around in the never was championship.

You obviously know nothing about F1. There is always a number 2 driver that gets the raw end of the stick. And you do realise he was leading a world championship until the final race a few years ago?

If you knew, or watched any F1 it was continuously stated Vettel and Webber were equals and not 1 and 2. Rosberg and Hamilton are equals. Alonso and Raikkonen are equals.

Go away little boy. You are obviously full of shit mate, and have just been found out.

WTF, you don't actually believe that WEB and VET actually were treated equally by the team do you? Even people involved in F1 don't believe that, people in the team don't believe that, other drivers don't believe that. Even Martin Brundle said numerous times that VET got preferential treatment.

Ferrari used to say Schuey and Rubens and Schuey and Eddie Irvine were equal too. At least by the time Massa got there they were more open about the roles of the drivers.

^ this

no way in hell webber and vettel were equals. once again TSG, you obviously didnt watch many races

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Webber was below average. Same car and couldn't even get on the podium half the time.

for most of webber's last couple of seasons his car was also quite different to vettels, particularly with recurring KERs problems that they couldnt fix. they also rocked up to a race with two new front wings once, one for each car, and vettel's didnt fit onto his car properly, so they took webber's wing to put onto vettel's.

2009 and 2010 they were very close, but after vettel asserted himself he was clearly the number 1 driver after that.

bennymacca wrote:

^ this

no way in hell webber and vettel were equals. once again TSG, you obviously didnt watch many races

Plenty. Love the way Vettel goes about it. True racer.

Hamilton won in China for his third win on the bounce, Merc 1-2 with Rosberg 2nd.
Alonso 3rd, Ricciardo 4th, Vettel 5th.
Vettel showed his arrogance once again when he was ordered to let Ricciardo by because he was on fresh tyres and Seb replied "tough luck".
Had to be ordered a second time before he finally let him pass

Very good chance to see Mercedes win every race this season. Will take a lot of catching up by other teams who I think are starting too far back

20 kph less down the straight by the red bulls. That's insane. Imagine the red bull with a merc engine

bennymacca wrote:20 kph less down the straight by the red bulls. That's insane. Imagine the red bull with a merc engine

Red Bull will be fine, these things go in cycles and its the Mercs time at the top.
They have put together a good package and deserve the spoils from it

Its the aero package thats slowing them down benny. I'm told the engine delivers similar power. Redbull will be much better when they get to Europe. New aero package will see them get a lot more competitive in the coming races.

As for Vettel, as much as i like him as a racer, he's an arrogant cock and i hope Daniel serves it up to him all season.
If he doesnt move over when told to, juust prang into him and let team management deal with him.

Not sure what you have been reading but their aero is awesome. They were smashing the mercs through the corners but were losing 1.2 secs down the straight.

Correct Benny, but too much aero surface area slows you down dramatically on long straights.
Most European circuits are flowing corners and shortish straights (apart from Monza and Spa). So you will see dramatic improvement over there.

yeah for sure. add the bit of a break before the european season for renault to get their sh*t sorted out, and they should be much more competitive. coming from a long way back though

Was that the extended version of God Save the Queen on Sunday for Hamilton?

Even he started clapping and waving mid song as he had no idea what was going on!

its been 20 years since the death of Senna and Ratzenberger

Used to love watching my favourite driver senna race around the tracks in the red and white mclarens . Was a sad day when Senna/ratz passed away, still remember crying when I saw it .

Hamilton wins again. 4 wins in 4 races, 5 poles in 6 races ( I think )

Another championship for Lewis as the sport dies a slow painful death.

Booney wrote:Hamilton wins again. 4 wins in 4 races, 5 poles in 6 races ( I think )

Another championship for Lewis as the sport dies a slow painful death.

pretty disappointed with this season, given the whole point of the rule changes were to make it cheaper and therefore more even

Yep me too actually. Although Red Bull made top end improvement, so did the Mercs.

Monaco is Red Bulls only chance for a win now....qualify front row then lead all the way.

Could be the most onesided contest ever.