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The V8s Grand Final!

Posted:
Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:21 pm
by Wedgie
Top-10 practice times:
1. Jason Bright Ford Performance Racing 1:34.31
2. Marcos Ambrose Pirtek Ford 1:34.42
3. Craig Lowndes Betta Electrical Ford 1:34.52
4. Steven Richards Perkins Racing Holden 1:34.62
5. Todd Kelly Holden Racing Team 1:34.83
6. Greg Murphy Super Cheap Auto Holden 1:34.86
7. Rick Kelly HSV Dealer Team 1:34.87
8. Garth Tander HSV Dealer Team 1:34.88
9. Mark Skaife Holden Racing Team 1:34.90
10. Russell Ingall Caltex Ford 1:35.02
Go Rusty!!

Posted:
Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:24 pm
by Sam_goUUUdogs
Lowndes is at least 2 pole positions ahead of hsi nearest rivals, so regardless of what happens in the Top 10, Lowndes wins the 2005 Pole positon Award.

Posted:
Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:26 pm
by Sam_goUUUdogs
Qualifying
1 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 13 7 1:33.2878
2 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 14 11 1:33.3008 0:00.0130
3 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 10 7 1:33.3460 0:00.0582
4 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 14 7 1:33.4863 0:00.1985
5 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 13 13 1:33.6467 0:00.3589
6 24 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VZ 14 14 1:33.7256
0:00.4378
7 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 11 2 1:33.7832 0:00.4954
8 16 HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ 10 9 1:33.7845 0:00.4967
9 23 Dodo Racing Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VZ 13 7 1:33.8150 0:00.5272
10 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 14 11 1:33.8695 0:00.5817
11 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 15 11 1:33.8961 0:00.6083
12 50 Super Cheap Auto Racing Paul Weel Holden Commodore VZ 15 14 1:33.9390
0:00.6512
13 3 Dodo Racing Jason Richards Holden Commodore VZ 14 10 1:34.0041 0:00.7163
14 11 Team Perkins Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VZ 15 14 1:34.0923 0:00.8045
15 5 Ford Performance Racing David Brabham Ford Falcon BA 16 7 1:34.1200 0:00.8322
16 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 16 8 1:34.1507 0:00.8629
17 88 Team Betta Electrical Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 16 14 1:34.2246 0:00.9368
18 67 Sirromet-Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VZ 15 14 1:34.3204
0:01.0326
19 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ 14 3 1:34.3896 0:01.1018
20 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 15 7 1:34.4010 0:01.1132
21 18 Westpoint Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 16 16 1:34.4141 0:01.1263
22 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 16 8 1:34.4770 0:01.1892
23 45 WOW Sight & Sound Max Wilson Holden Commodore VZ 15 13 1:34.4920 0:01.2042
24 25 Fujitsu Racing Steve Owen Ford Falcon BA 15 7 1:34.5090 0:01.2212
25 17 Westpoint Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 15 15 1:34.5257 0:01.2379
26 48 WPS Racing David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 15 14 1:34.6671 0:01.3793
27 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 7 6 1:34.8744 0:01.5866
28 8 WPS Racing Craig Baird Ford Falcon BA 14 7 1:34.8874 0:01.5996
29 7 Autobarn Racing Owen Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 14 5 1:34.9223 0:01.6345
30 52 Fujitsu Racing Matthew White Ford Falcon BA 16 14 1:35.0476 0:01.7598
31 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VZ 14 14 1:35.1275 0:01.8397
32 21 Team BOC Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 14 14 1:35.1546 0:01.8668
33 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 8 7 1:35.2325 0:01.9447
34 44 Go Talk Simon Wills Holden Commodore VZ 10 10 1:35.7031 0:02.4153

Posted:
Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:27 pm
by Sam_goUUUdogs
Top 10 (Lowndes wins 2005 Pole Postion award by 3.

)
1 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:33.2826
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:33.2884 0:00.0058
3 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:33.4077 0:00.1251
4 16 HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:33.4950 0:00.2124
5 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:33.5635 0:00.2809
6 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:33.6085 0:00.3259
7 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:33.6101 0:00.3275
8 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:33.8626 0:00.5800
9 24 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:34.2467 0:00.9641
10 23 Dodo Racing Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:34.3097 0:01.0271

Posted:
Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:28 pm
by Sam_goUUUdogs
Race 1
1 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 23 37:30.4916 5 1:34.6779
2 16 HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:33.3138 2 1:34.8049
3 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 23 37:39.1339 6 1:34.7061
4 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:42.1792 4 1:35.1420
5 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 23 37:47.2869 5 1:35.2618
6 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:48.3437 4
1:35.1782
7 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:51.4189 15 1:35.6951
8 88 Team Betta Electrical Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 23 37:51.9302 7 1:35.6996
9 11 Team Perkins Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:53.4706 4 1:35.4835
10 50 Super Cheap Auto Racing Paul Weel Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:54.7884 4
1:35.5461
11 5 Ford Performance Racing David Brabham Ford Falcon BA 23 37:55.5580 8 1:35.5221
12 23 Dodo Racing Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:56.4473 7 1:35.9355
13 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 23 37:57.6964 4 1:35.3866
14 67 Sirromet-Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:04.9255 4
1:36.1297
15 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:06.1200 4 1:35.8989
16 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 23 38:06.7568 5 1:36.1022
17 3 Dodo Racing Jason Richards Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:07.4540 4 1:35.6540
18 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ 23
38:08.1120 3 1:35.8565
19 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 23 38:09.1708 4 1:36.0837
20 45 WOW Sight & Sound Max Wilson Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:12.0213 3 1:36.0002
21 25 Fujitsu Racing Steve Owen Ford Falcon BA 23 38:19.5410 4 1:35.8519
22 17 Westpoint Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 23 38:19.6269 4 1:36.3828
23 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 23 38:20.2910 14 1:36.4891
24 21 Team BOC Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 23 38:20.8303 9 1:36.3867
25 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:23.9349
7 1:36.7944
26 7 Autobarn Racing Owen Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:24.3507 18 1:36.5214
27 24 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VZ 23 38:36.1483 5
1:35.4360
28 52 Fujitsu Racing Matthew White Ford Falcon BA 23 38:51.6846 16 1:36.6223
29 18 Westpoint Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 22 37:44.1863 10 1:36.2202
30 8 WPS Racing Craig Baird Ford Falcon BA 22 38:23.1331 5 1:36.4432
31 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 21 37:31.2192 4 1:34.8217
DNF 48 WPS Racing David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 15 27:09.1084 4 1:36.9913
DNF 44 Go Talk Simon Wills Holden Commodore VZ 12 38:51.4832 4 1:37.0024

Posted:
Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:50 am
by Wedgie
Great first race for Ford, its now mathematically impossible for a Holden to win the championship.
Ford THREEPEAT! You beauty, bring on the 4th in a row in 2006!

Posted:
Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:10 pm
by Wedgie
You little bewty!
Round to Ambrose.
Manafucters Championship to Ford.
Championship to Rusty Ingall!
Team Title to SBR.
Go the Good Guys!
Now for 4 in a row in 2006.

Posted:
Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:49 pm
by Sam_goUUUdogs

Glad the champion will be defending next year, and as much as i dont like it, good for Ambrose to finsih up with a win.


Posted:
Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:02 am
by Booney
The Blue Oval rages,
The 'Lizbef Lion runs,
The battle of the ages,
By the good guys has been won!

Posted:
Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:39 pm
by Sam_goUUUdogs
God Created Shit.
Ford Perfected It.
and still bloody won.
Time to plan for Bathurst for 2006, atleast i will get to see a Holden win there.

Posted:
Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:32 pm
by Wedgie
Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:Ford Perfect
Amen to that Sammy!

Posted:
Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:11 pm
by RoostersRuleTheWorld !
About time they dominate ! only taken 10 years !
Never change in SALES though will it !
Thats the one thing that stays the same forever !

Posted:
Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:30 pm
by Wedgie
Love the picture of Ingalls car with the Puddy Tat's tail hanging out of the grill as its just been eaten by his Falcon in the paper this morning.
Absolute gold!

Posted:
Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:45 pm
by scott
Ian wrote:# 1 Driver
Even though I'm a Holden man, Russell has gotta be my most favourite driver.
Weird.

Posted:
Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:44 am
by RustyCage
Lets see Ford win without all the parts that have been added to their cars over the last few years to make the Holdens and Ford more equal. Give Holden their proper aerodynamics, gearbox and exhaust system back for a start and get Ford to use their own parts. See how they go then.

Posted:
Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:02 am
by Sam_goUUUdogs
and take the extra weight out of the HRT cars, funny how the whole idea of evening the cars up was called project BLUEprint

Posted:
Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:46 am
by Ian
pafc1870 wrote:Lets see Ford win without all the parts that have been added to their cars over the last few years to make the Holdens and Ford more equal. Give Holden their proper aerodynamics, gearbox and exhaust system back for a start and get Ford to use their own parts. See how they go then.
.......and take the Ford 9" diff and front suspension out of the Holden, and make them find a Holden 5L V8 instead of using a Chev, christ, lets take all of the control rules out of the series and let Ford run it's Quad cam V8 it uses for the XR8's and GT's.
What a load of dribble, the whole basis of the formula was to control what BOTH manufacturers could use, that is what has made the series great, with close racing. For the first few seasons Holden threw squillions of dollars at the cars and development while Ford didn't want to know about it. As soon as Ford took the series seriously and chucked in a few dollars, their cars became competitive, and the serieshas been sensational. If all you want to see is Holdens winning races, start a Commodore only series, most motorsport fans would find that extreemly booring, but it may just give someone as narrow minded as you something to T*ss off over.

Posted:
Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:31 am
by Ian
Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:and take the extra weight out of the HRT cars, funny how the whole idea of evening the cars up was called project BLUEprint
Sam, for a normally astute and knowledgeable young man, this is dribble.
The minimum wieght for a V8 supercar (Ford or Holden) is 1355kg, excluding driver and drivers apparel.
The minimum wieght for a V8 supercar (Ford or Holden) is 1435kg, including driver and drivers apparel.
The minimum wieght for a Development series car (Ford or Holden) is 1455kg, excluding driver and drivers apparel.
No where is there different weight requirements for either make, stop making excuses and just admit, for the last 3 years Ford has been Number 1.
Any other rules you would like to clarify,
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/downloads/operationsman/2005/manual/2005%20Final%20Div%20C%20.pdf
Just as Holdens reign at the top has ended, so to will the Bulldogs (oneday, hopefully sooner rather than later)


Posted:
Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:56 am
by Sam_goUUUdogs
you must remember 3 or 4 years ago when AVESCO came out with project Blueprint, it involved extra restricitions on the HRT cars, as you said all restrictions were made to even out the field, and HRT did not overly fall into the Holden bracket as they were still miles ahead of the pack, so 25-30KG of extra weight was chucked in the back of the HRT cars, and is still there today, as AVESCO has not lifted the restrictions for whatever reason, even though HRT is clearly not dominating anymore. I will try and find the exact details of Project blueprint and post them.
but Ford has won the championsip the last 3 years with the equipment they had, and beaten who they had to there is no deniying that unfortunatley.