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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Westsider » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:00 pm

dedja wrote:Bizzare scenes!

Giants TD, but don't elect to take the conversion to waste time on the clock ... NYG 21 - NE 17 with 57 secs to go.


Can't waste time on a conversion anyway

Also when your up by 4, kicking an extra point means nothing because you'd be up by 5.

At least if you get 2 points then you are up by 6 and if the other team get's a TD they can still miss their extra point.

Very standard call.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Strawb » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:06 pm

The Pats handed the Giants on a silver platter and the Giants took it with ease. With allowing that final touchdown. They put all their eggs in the hands of Brady and it backfired. What a win to the Giants.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby dedja » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:08 pm

Thanks for telling me things I already know ... the blizzare bit was seeing an open path to a TD and the running back falling over into the end zone when he tried not to. :lol:
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Strawb » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:10 pm

dedja wrote:Thanks for telling me things I already know ... the blizzare bit was seeing an open path to a TD and the running back falling over into the end zone when he tried not to. :lol:

I know it is what makes all the more sweeter. Also the fact that I have nearly 100 odd pats fans as friends on facebook who cannot understand why I hate the Pats yet love all Boston teams.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Johno6 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:08 pm

Pats did the smart thing by allowing that td.
But Brady's receivers let him down on the final drivr
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby HH3 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:42 am

Yeah, if the Pats didnt allow the TD, the Giants would of wound the clock down to 0.02 and kicked the field goal from point plank. At least giving up the TD gave them another shot with the ball to win the game.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Hellboy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:09 am

Johno6 wrote:Pats did the smart thing by allowing that td.
But Brady's receivers let him down on the final drivr


Correct - 2 very catchable passes dropped
They can only blame themselves

Giants always looked like they would take their opportunities whereas the Pats were shaky from the start
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:49 pm

HH3 wrote:Yeah, if the Pats didnt allow the TD, the Giants would of wound the clock down to 0.02 and kicked the field goal from point plank. At least giving up the TD gave them another shot with the ball to win the game.


Thanks HH. Haven't seen the game yet, and don't understand everything about it either, but it seems an extraordinary gamble to take, almost "anti-sport". Would the field goal have been so easy the bloke wouldn't have felt any pressure? What other options would have the Pats considered that could have lead to NY losing the ball?
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby HH3 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:13 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:
HH3 wrote:Yeah, if the Pats didnt allow the TD, the Giants would of wound the clock down to 0.02 and kicked the field goal from point plank. At least giving up the TD gave them another shot with the ball to win the game.


Thanks HH. Haven't seen the game yet, and don't understand everything about it either, but it seems an extraordinary gamble to take, almost "anti-sport". Would the field goal have been so easy the bloke wouldn't have felt any pressure? What other options would have the Pats considered that could have lead to NY losing the ball?


The Giants really did have them by the balls. They could have ran the clock down and had a field goal attempt from about 10 yards out...which is hard to miss. Woulda put the Giants a point up with probably 20 seconds maybe for the Pats to go for broke. If they did that, the Pats woulda had 20 seconds at best to get 40-50 yards, then convert a long distance FG. (This is without having any timeouts) So pretty much impossible.

Letting the Giants have the TD with nearly a minute left meant the Pats at least got a little bit of time to get a TD. And they really did utilise the time well. I think they had something like 8 or 9 plays in that minute.

Also the Giants could have won the game with about 20-25 seconds on the clock when the Pats were 4th and 13, but Brady made the pass and kept the game alive.

PS In the press conferences leading up to the game, Brady said if it came down to the last drive, he would rather be DOWN and HAVE the ball, than be UP and NOT have the ball. He got his wish and didnt make the most of it.
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NFL Super Bowl

Postby RustyCage » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:09 pm

I wonder what the odds for the first score being a safety would have been!
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Hellboy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:57 pm

pafc1870 wrote:I wonder what the odds for the first score being a safety would have been!


If only Johno had got well and truly plastered we might have found out
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Strawb » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:28 pm

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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby HH3 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:32 pm

Yeah I saw that. Surely Tom Brady, one of the biggest names in the NFL, could get an at least half decent looking model girlfriend...

And as much as I dislike Wes Welker, I dont think it was his fault. The throw was too high. Hes a small bloke, and did well to get that high to have a crack at it. If they wanna blame someone though, Id be pointing the finger at Hernandez....worst drop of the game, at an even more crucial time.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby OnSong » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:46 pm

Strawb wrote:http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201202/tom-bradys-wife-blames-patriots-teammates
This makes me laugh more.

See the last comment on this story? :shock: :shock:

PS: She's right IMO, two crucial drops.

I often wonder if the ball is as hard to catch as some of these guys make it look.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Strawb » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:48 pm

OnSong wrote:
Strawb wrote:http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201202/tom-bradys-wife-blames-patriots-teammates
This makes me laugh more.

See the last comment on this story? :shock: :shock:

PS: She's right IMO, two crucial drops.

I often wonder if the ball is as hard to catch as some of these guys make it look.

It is hard to catch depending on how hard it is thrown. It is not one of the easiest things to catch at times. Also some people have problems handling the clutch of pressure.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby Hellboy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:53 pm

Having played the game, it's not as easy as you'd think because of the pointy ends.
But, as I have consistently said about Dallas, if you're getting paid millions, you should be able to catch the thing
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby HH3 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:07 pm



Theres the drop...and i wouldnt want to have to be the one catching that. I cant find the Hernandez one anywhere, but it was on his chest when he was wide open and just dropped it.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby OnSong » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:08 pm

Hellboy wrote:Having played the game, it's not as easy as you'd think because of the pointy ends.
But, as I have consistently said about Dallas, if you're getting paid millions, you should be able to catch the thing

I reckon taking a bullet pass to the chest looks harder than running with the flight of it. Especially if the defenders are running with you and not at you.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby OnSong » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:10 pm

HH3 wrote:Theres the drop...and i wouldnt want to have to be the one catching that. I cant find the Hernandez one anywhere, but it was on his chest when he was wide open and just dropped it.

I think that looks fairly regulation to be honest. Not a great deal of tackling pressure, got two hands to it. A pro footballer should be catching that. The throw was pretty much on the money.
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Re: NFL Super Bowl

Postby OnSong » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:11 pm

Can someone explain to me if a team punts, can they not catch the punt?
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