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No Rough Ryder?

[Bully]

kane with hair now. Dont think the mask is going to do alot again as we know what he looks like.

[Bully]

i would love for WWE and TNA to face off in a tournament ....that would be very interesting to see

[woodublieve12]

kane with hair now. Dont think the mask is going to do alot again as we know what he looks like.

Kane as a monster is awesome!!! The good thing bout Kane is that he attacks anyone
Face or heel... He's one of my all time fav 5..
I think the mask is great, and fair chance he's wearing a wig. I can't wait to see what they do with him now. He's been put on the raw roster.

[woodublieve12]

i would love for WWE and TNA to face off in a tournament ....that would be very interesting to see

As would love to see that too, but it would be a no contest... Just Goin on the talent on each rosters, Wwe smash them I reckon.... However aj styles vs punk would be awesome... Or they could call the tournement wwe vs Wwe rejects and a couple TNA wrestlers

[Bully]

still they would try and make it interesting and would be very interesting to see who wins

[Interceptor]

i would love for WWE and TNA to face off in a tournament ....that would be very interesting to see

As would love to see that too, but it would be a no contest... Just Goin on the talent on each rosters, Wwe smash them I reckon.... However aj styles vs punk would be awesome... Or they could call the tournement wwe vs Wwe rejects and a couple TNA wrestlers

You obviously don't know the TNA list too well then.
Styles, Angle, Roode, Kazarian, Doug Williams, Anderson... Anderson, Austin Aries, Somoa Joe ALL quite capable of mixing it with anyone.
Fun to speculate though.

[woodublieve12]

i would love for WWE and TNA to face off in a tournament ....that would be very interesting to see

As would love to see that too, but it would be a no contest... Just Goin on the talent on each rosters, Wwe smash them I reckon.... However aj styles vs punk would be awesome... Or they could call the tournement wwe vs Wwe rejects and a couple TNA wrestlers

You obviously don't know the TNA list too well then.
Styles - awesome, Angle, Roode, Kazarian, Doug Williams, Anderson... Anderson, Austin Aries, Somoa Joe ALL quite capable of mixing it with anyone.
Fun to speculate though.

agreed great fun to speculate!!!! what matches would you like to see??? what i was more getting at was that there isnt great deal of talent on that roster to get excited bout. just for a second compare the wwe vs wcw invasion to say what a wwe vs tna invasion would be like as a viewer, the talent is worlds apart... i can on think of a handful of the tna wrestler (take away the wrestlers who are from wwe) could really step up to that level.. even the guys you mentioned with the exception of styles, joe, and maybe aries would have to go through FCW before they got to the big stage... angle and anderson are obviously the exception.. i was not happy when he left wwe... i would love to be proved wrong, trust me i usually am ...
ive seen a live tna show in orlando and i saw a live wwe event the two are worlds apart.....

[Pag]

How stupid/forgetful/ignorant do WWE think we are? Why put the mask back on Kane when we all know his face isn't actually disfigured?

[Bully]

yeah i agree.

[Il Duce]

How stupid/forgetful/ignorant do WWE think we are? Why put the mask back on Kane when we all know his face isn't actually disfigured?

However the little kids however will by it if they do a storyline like that again, they have never seen Kane like that etc and the could market it to them and make him scary to them and could make it work. To us it's stupid because we have been there seen it etc but it can work.

[Interceptor]

agreed great fun to speculate!!!! what matches would you like to see??? what i was more getting at was that there isnt great deal of talent on that roster to get excited bout. just for a second compare the wwe vs wcw invasion to say what a wwe vs tna invasion would be like as a viewer, the talent is worlds apart... i can on think of a handful of the tna wrestler (take away the wrestlers who are from wwe) could really step up to that level.. even the guys you mentioned with the exception of styles, joe, and maybe aries would have to go through FCW before they got to the big stage... angle and anderson are obviously the exception.. i was not happy when he left wwe... i would love to be proved wrong, trust me i usually am ...
ive seen a live tna show in orlando and i saw a live wwe event the two are worlds apart.....

No worries.
The Impact Zone is of course a big step down from most of the arenas the WWE run their shows in, which is part of their problem -they tape all their regular tv shows there and few of them are on the road (suits some of the wrestlers fine though). Bigger crowds make anything seem better.

Disagree that the talent is 'worlds apart', maybe the overall package is superior for WWE's typically more cartoonish characters, but on pure wrestling ability I don't think there's a tremendous difference at all. Some of the no-names in the X-Division are pretty decent as well. Have to admit I hardly see any WWE product anymore, so I could be a little off!

Bit of a pity that Sting didn't have even a short run with WWE for a feud with Undertaker as was speculated a while back -that would have been a dream match.

Styles vs Michaels (before retirement, would have been great) or Punk.
Roode vs HHH/Orton/Cena
Aries/Williams vs best WWE cruiserweights (Williams is a very accomplished English veteran, no FCW for him!)

[Media Park]

Card for TLC PPV tomorrow (our time):
Del Rio v Punk v Miz for the WWE Title... My pick... CM Punk
Henry v Big Show for the WHC... My pick... Henry
Booker v Cody for the IC title... My pick... Cody
Ziggler v Ryder for the US title... My pick... finally, Ryder
Nash v HHH... My pick... HHH
Barrett v Orton... My pick... Orton

No other matches listed yet, wouldn't be shocked for Cena to call out Kane, or a random Tag match after Epico and Primo beat Air Boom on Superstars...
Interestingly enough, Rhodes and Air Boom have not defended their titles within the last thirty days... Could be a storyline there with the titles being forfeited...

[woodublieve12]

How stupid/forgetful/ignorant do WWE think we are? Why put the mask back on Kane when we all know his face isn't actually disfigured?

However the little kids however will by it if they do a storyline like that again, they have never seen Kane like that etc and the could market it to them and make him scary to them and could make it work. To us it's stupid because we have been there seen it etc but it can work.

I think it's great to have the masked Kane back, Ive always thought he was better with the mask on... Totally agree with the new market. Kane as a masked monster heel is the best!!!! Did you think it was lame and dull when the taker went from the dead man to the motorcycle riding limp bizkit listening last ride taker, then changed back to the dead man???? That made less sense then the Kane character IMO. I still enjoyed it, but taker did a massive 360 twice!!!! So a 720

[Media Park]

The masked heel is awesome. When unmasked Kane gets angry, he looks more like he is going to cry.
When masked Kane raises hell, with his body language, it is imposing.

Aside from Mark Henry, there is no heel in the company that is a feared dominant angry heel.
We have Ziggler, Del Rio, Miz who are all sneaky, cheating heels, Kane without mask is just another one of them, with the mask, and it may only be a perception thing, but he appears to be a dominant angry heel.

One for Smackdown, one for RAW...

[Il Duce]

agreed great fun to speculate!!!! what matches would you like to see??? what i was more getting at was that there isnt great deal of talent on that roster to get excited bout. just for a second compare the wwe vs wcw invasion to say what a wwe vs tna invasion would be like as a viewer, the talent is worlds apart... i can on think of a handful of the tna wrestler (take away the wrestlers who are from wwe) could really step up to that level.. even the guys you mentioned with the exception of styles, joe, and maybe aries would have to go through FCW before they got to the big stage... angle and anderson are obviously the exception.. i was not happy when he left wwe... i would love to be proved wrong, trust me i usually am ...
ive seen a live tna show in orlando and i saw a live wwe event the two are worlds apart.....

No worries.
The Impact Zone is of course a big step down from most of the arenas the WWE run their shows in, which is part of their problem -they tape all their regular tv shows there and few of them are on the road (suits some of the wrestlers fine though). Bigger crowds make anything seem better.

Disagree that the talent is 'worlds apart', maybe the overall package is superior for WWE's typically more cartoonish characters, but on pure wrestling ability I don't think there's a tremendous difference at all. Some of the no-names in the X-Division are pretty decent as well. Have to admit I hardly see any WWE product anymore, so I could be a little off!

Bit of a pity that Sting didn't have even a short run with WWE for a feud with Undertaker as was speculated a while back -that would have been a dream match.

Styles vs Michaels (before retirement, would have been great) or Punk.
Roode vs HHH/Orton/Cena
Aries/Williams vs best WWE cruiserweights (Williams is a very accomplished English veteran, no FCW for him!)

Tna should of stop bringing in wwe talent after christian and angle. Tna's best talent has always been the indy guys that they have exposed and if they never had of bought in hogan and bish, there would be more indy guys comming though and staying instead of going to wwe. Generation me/ young bucks and the Motor city Machine gun's are some of best 2 tag teams in the world today, the gun's dont get used enough and the gen me barley got used and its why they left.

TNA's main problem is bish and hogan and the fact they dont move around the main event picture (sound familier) but it's wrestlers in the level just under a fantastic like Styles, Joe, Daniel, Kaz, Rhode, Storm, Matt Morgan (i know he was in wwe for about a second) but they all could carry the company and still get people watching see as bish and hogan have raised the raitings from about 1 (1=1 milion) to a 1.1 in the usa so not much diffrence and dont need to pay those ex wwe rejects the big $$$ and give more time to tna/indy grown wrestlers and then people will see how much better tna can be and how alot of the wrestlers are on equal pegging if not better than the wwe roster.

Styles V Punk
Bryan V Williams
Aries V Bourne (the first 3 would classics me thinks)
Kaz V Rhodes
Rhode V Zigler
Morgan V Henry (big guy match)
Storm V Sheamus
Daniels V Miz

I may aswell put a tag match of the 4 main events that bore me the most, cant wrestle and should just eff off

cena and orton V crimson and gunner

[Bully]

maybe vince will buy TNA out like he did with WCW . that puts a stop to the opposition. Just buy them

[Pag]

How stupid/forgetful/ignorant do WWE think we are? Why put the mask back on Kane when we all know his face isn't actually disfigured?

However the little kids however will by it if they do a storyline like that again, they have never seen Kane like that etc and the could market it to them and make him scary to them and could make it work. To us it's stupid because we have been there seen it etc but it can work.

I think it's great to have the masked Kane back, Ive always thought he was better with the mask on... Totally agree with the new market. Kane as a masked monster heel is the best!!!! Did you think it was lame and dull when the taker went from the dead man to the motorcycle riding limp bizkit listening last ride taker, then changed back to the dead man???? That made less sense then the Kane character IMO. I still enjoyed it, but taker did a massive 360 twice!!!! So a 720

I agree that masked Kane was awesome, I remembeer having nightmares as a nine year-old during the original Kane v undertaker feud.

But once you take the mask off, you can't put it back on again. They should never have taken it off in the first place, ruined the whole mystique of his character IMO. I can't buy into it now.

[Media Park]

Two Title Changes At TLC:

Zack Ryder new US Champ
Big Show new WHC, Daniel Bryan cashed in and won

[Bully]

cena vs kane. Might be an interesting watch