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[Bully]

i guess no one would vote for there boss would they (triple H)

[Media Park]

HHH has become (IMO) one of the most amazing characters.
That comes down to how you are booked, how good your opponents can make you look, and your mic skills and physical look.
HHH covers all the bases there, without being an exceptional performer in the ring (sticking the bosses daughter has some perks I guess.)

Angle down that low (no. 34) is a joke, as a performer he is exceptional.

A name like Batista on the list in any position ahead of Dean Malenko (among others) is a disgrace.

FWIW, the highly touted return to the Ring of HHH did not occur this RAW (he was supposed to wrestle someone allegedly).

Three things from RAW

It was revealed that Kevin Nash sent Kevin Nash the text from HHH's phone- poor booking.
Jerry Lawler and Zack Ryder def Otunga/McGillicutty, thereby burying one of the few tag teams WWE has.
Air Boom (gay name) will face Awesome Truth (ripper name) for the WWE Tag Titles at NOC

[woodublieve12]

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Will The Rock Wrestle At The Survivor Series?, Pre-Sale Password For The Event
By Daniel Pena
Sep 6, 2011 - 7:49:17 PM


A pre-sale event for the Survivor Series takes place tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. ET. The password for the pre-sale is "CENAROCK" at TheGarden.com.

Advertising for the show reads: "The People's Champion-The Rock returns to action for the first time in 8 years to join John Cena and all your favorite WWE Superstars at "Survivor Series."

Despite the vague wording in the advertisement, The Rock is not scheduled to wrestle on the show

anyone who has seen raw already must have heard the kings subtle comment on the survivor series ppv "it's goin to be electrifying"

[dee man]

i think the results of the top 50 is a disgrace
dusty rhodes,ric flair,jerry lawler,harley race,terry funk,all came to the wwe at the end of their careers
fabulous moolah is a joke

where is chris benoit
are no tag team wrestlers good enough to be top 50
dynamite kid
davey boy
to name a couple
ric martel,don muraco,the list goes on

[woodublieve12]

i think the results of the top 50 is a disgrace
dusty rhodes,ric flair,jerry lawler,harley race,terry funk,all came to the wwe at the end of their careers - to say none of these blokes deserve to be in the top 50 is just ridiculous... i think some should have been higher.. Plus the wwe owns pretty much owns all the rights to most defunct wrestling organisation from back in the day i.e AWA, wcw, NWA and obviously wwwf
fabulous moolah is a joke - she held the womens title for over 4 decades

where is chris benoit -will never get mentioned again by wwe after killing his wife and kids
are no tag team wrestlers good enough to be top 50
dynamite kid
davey boy
to name a couple
ric martel,don muraco,the list goes on

[Il Duce]

i think the results of the top 50 is a disgrace
dusty rhodes,ric flair,jerry lawler,harley race,terry funk,all came to the wwe at the end of their careers - to say none of these blokes deserve to be in the top 50 is just ridiculous... i think some should have been higher.. Plus the wwe owns pretty much owns all the rights to most defunct wrestling organisation from back in the day i.e AWA, wcw, NWA and obviously wwwf In all seriousness ric flair 1, steamboat 2 and hbk 3, then you start 4-50. Terry Funk was a fantastic old school wrestler who reinvinted himself in the 90's to keep his career going. Dusty Rhodes is a 3 time nwa heavyweight title (the real heavyweight title) winner and should be higher not to mention all of dustys creative ideas that are in play today, ditto for harley race except he was a 5 time champ. Jerry lawler is like a 10 time world champ just not the wwe one, bruno samartino should be much higher espically because he held his 2 titles for like 7 and 5 years respectively.

fabulous moolah is a joke - she held the womens title for over 4 decades and basicly built womens wrestling

where is chris benoit -will never get mentioned again by wwe after killing his wife and kids see number 18 or ?
are no tag team wrestlers good enough to be top 50
dynamite kid
davey boy
to name a couple
ric martel,don muraco,the list goes on

[Media Park]

I can only hope this is the top fifty wrestling CHARACTERS, as the skill set of someone like Cena is very limited, but his character is a PG version of Hulk Hogan in the late 80's/early 90's... Great character that the main demographic (currently kids) loves...

Chris Benoit, Ric Flair (before he got old), DEAN MALENKO, Ricky Steamboat, Chris Jericho, even John Morrison... Al better WRESTLERS than Cena...

[wristwatcher]

I can only hope this is the top fifty wrestling CHARACTERS, as the skill set of someone like Cena is very limited, but his character is a PG version of Hulk Hogan in the late 80's/early 90's... Great character that the main demographic (currently kids) loves...

Chris Benoit, Ric Flair (before he got old), DEAN MALENKO, Ricky Steamboat, Chris Jericho, even John Morrison... Al better WRESTLERS than Cena...

Did you take into account all 5 of Jon Cenas moves of doom If you turn the smileys hand around, hes giving you the "you cant see me". That makes 6 moves. Also just this week on Raw i saw a double fist drop Thats 7 moves

[Media Park]

That double fist drop was cringeworthy...

[wristwatcher]

That double fist drop was cringeworthy...

I had the day off of work with severe Gastro and uncontrollable vomit so i can legitametly say that it did make me sick or at very least sicker. It was just plain and simply stupid...yet his fruity pebble pimply faced tribe popped for it

[Media Park]

I don't know if many people tune in to NXT, but it seems that the work WWE are putting into their tag team division may have bred a new team... And I love it...

William Regal, and Matt Striker!!!

[dee man]

i think the results of the top 50 is a disgrace
dusty rhodes,ric flair,jerry lawler,harley race,terry funk,all came to the wwe at the end of their careers - to say none of these blokes deserve to be in the top 50 is just ridiculous... i think some should have been higher.. Plus the wwe owns pretty much owns all the rights to most defunct wrestling organisation from back in the day i.e AWA, wcw, NWA and obviously wwwf In all seriousness ric flair 1, steamboat 2 and hbk 3, then you start 4-50. Terry Funk was a fantastic old school wrestler who reinvinted himself in the 90's to keep his career going. Dusty Rhodes is a 3 time nwa heavyweight title (the real heavyweight title) winner and should be higher not to mention all of dustys creative ideas that are in play today, ditto for harley race except he was a 5 time champ. Jerry lawler is like a 10 time world champ just not the wwe one, bruno samartino should be much higher espically because he held his 2 titles for like 7 and 5 years respectively.

fabulous moolah is a joke - she held the womens title for over 4 decades and basicly built womens wrestling


where is chris benoit -will never get mentioned again by wwe after killing his wife and kids see number 18 or ?
are no tag team wrestlers good enough to be top 50
dynamite kid
davey boy
to name a couple
ric martel,don muraco,the list goes on

like your arguments but on moolah,who did she wrestle,really
as for what i am saying about the rest i must have got it mixed up
i was commenting on their time at WWE under the WWE banner
not what they had achieved before that
when they all came to the WWE they were past their prime
as for the one that cant be spoken about,i understand that as well but i didnt relise it was on their characters or deeds but on wrestling ability because if it is on character half the people selected would be deleted
but all in all fair call

[Bully]

as much as chris benoit did what he did he was still a fantastic performer

[Il Duce]

I understand with you under the WWE banner you also gotta remember the WWE bought out the AWA, WCW (who bought out jim crockrett promotions /nwa mid atlantic), ECW and a whole other promotions which they now own the rights, history etc to. So there time in these other promotions can be counted in this list.
Which is why I cant see how flair isn't number 1 from 80-96 he was the top wrestler in the world and I dont mean like hogan on top with his same 5 move set etc, I mean Ric Flair could make the best and the worst all look good and have a good match with him. He also could produce 6-7 60 minute matches a week for those 16 years, he drew plenty of money all around the world. He also won the WWE title twice in the 18 months he was there in the early 90's, one was the 92 rumble which the title was on the line, he was number 3 in that and even when he was past in during his second run in the wwe from 2002-08, he still had acceptable matches and they certainly shouldn't count TNA, btw steamboat and hbk should be 2 and 3.

Moolah wrestled against women like mae young and mildred burke ( both who during there hey day considered some of the toughes and best female wrestlers around) Sherri Martel, Leilani kai, judy grabel, donna christanello and wendi richter. All who built womens wrestling and all are in the hall of fame (the pro wrestling hall of fame, not the wwe one) and the fact that prior till like 99/00 when ever sable, jaquline and torri (not wilson the one with dx) stop being the only 3 chicks in the wwe and wcw only had maduesa (alundra blaze) and molly holly (miss madness 99), they didn't have divas they had women wrestlers who could wrestle and some could even properly go with the men, so in all I think Moolah's spot is well earned on the list, even though there should of been 3 list of 50, 1 for the women or maybe a 25 for that, 50 for tag teams and then a 50 for single male wrestlers.

[JK]

I guess it would help to know the criteria the voters were to use ... Ie, how much weight is given to wrestling ability and how much to "star status" that was achieved.

As mentioned before, Hogan was a pretty average wrestler, but he was the face that took the industry to a whole new level (with the likes of Piper).

Can't dispute ID's call of Flair as No.1

[dee man]

I understand with you under the WWE banner you also gotta remember the WWE bought out the AWA, WCW (who bought out jim crockrett promotions /nwa mid atlantic), ECW and a whole other promotions which they now own the rights, history etc to. So there time in these other promotions can be counted in this list.
Which is why I cant see how flair isn't number 1 from 80-96 he was the top wrestler in the world and I dont mean like hogan on top with his same 5 move set etc, I mean Ric Flair could make the best and the worst all look good and have a good match with him. He also could produce 6-7 60 minute matches a week for those 16 years, he drew plenty of money all around the world. He also won the WWE title twice in the 18 months he was there in the early 90's, one was the 92 rumble which the title was on the line, he was number 3 in that and even when he was past in during his second run in the wwe from 2002-08, he still had acceptable matches and they certainly shouldn't count TNA, btw steamboat and hbk should be 2 and 3.

Moolah wrestled against women like mae young and mildred burke ( both who during there hey day considered some of the toughes and best female wrestlers around) Sherri Martel, Leilani kai, judy grabel, donna christanello and wendi richter. All who built womens wrestling and all are in the hall of fame (the pro wrestling hall of fame, not the wwe one) and the fact that prior till like 99/00 when ever sable, jaquline and torri (not wilson the one with dx) stop being the only 3 chicks in the wwe and wcw only had maduesa (alundra blaze) and molly holly (miss madness 99), they didn't have divas they had women wrestlers who could wrestle and some could even properly go with the men, so in all I think Moolah's spot is well earned on the list, even though there should of been 3 list of 50, 1 for the women or maybe a 25 for that, 50 for tag teams and then a 50 for single male wrestlers.

point well taken
always liked flair but have always put the hitman well up their
after reading alot of bio on different wrestlers i now put hitman number 1 by a mile
austin and undertaker also gained alot more and lowered my regard for flair,hbk,hogan and that whole side
as we know a good wrestler is not just the talent he has but the talent of putting other wrestlers over
flair,hogan and so esp in their later year would only put certain guys over and the refuse to work with others
the ones i mentioned have been spoken in glowing terms by every book
and beside that hitman,,best their was,best their is,best their ever will be

[wristwatcher]

Beautifully said Dee Man Bret "The Hitman" Hart was all class. I just finished his book last month and the only other wrestling auto bio/bio i have read that is on par with it is Foleys first book.

[dee man]

Beautifully said Dee Man Bret "The Hitman" Hart was all class. I just finished his book last month and the only other wrestling auto bio/bio i have read that is on par with it is Foleys first book.

mate,i have read the rocks,stone cold ,foleys ,shaun micheals and flairs as well
the hitmans was the most down to earth and couldnt put it down
have read a bit of hogans and through the book out
just complete rubbish and self promotion to the extreme

[Media Park]

Well that's what the guy is about...

[Il Duce]

I understand with you under the WWE banner you also gotta remember the WWE bought out the AWA, WCW (who bought out jim crockrett promotions /nwa mid atlantic), ECW and a whole other promotions which they now own the rights, history etc to. So there time in these other promotions can be counted in this list.
Which is why I cant see how flair isn't number 1 from 80-96 he was the top wrestler in the world and I dont mean like hogan on top with his same 5 move set etc, I mean Ric Flair could make the best and the worst all look good and have a good match with him. He also could produce 6-7 60 minute matches a week for those 16 years, he drew plenty of money all around the world. He also won the WWE title twice in the 18 months he was there in the early 90's, one was the 92 rumble which the title was on the line, he was number 3 in that and even when he was past in during his second run in the wwe from 2002-08, he still had acceptable matches and they certainly shouldn't count TNA, btw steamboat and hbk should be 2 and 3.

Moolah wrestled against women like mae young and mildred burke ( both who during there hey day considered some of the toughes and best female wrestlers around) Sherri Martel, Leilani kai, judy grabel, donna christanello and wendi richter. All who built womens wrestling and all are in the hall of fame (the pro wrestling hall of fame, not the wwe one) and the fact that prior till like 99/00 when ever sable, jaquline and torri (not wilson the one with dx) stop being the only 3 chicks in the wwe and wcw only had maduesa (alundra blaze) and molly holly (miss madness 99), they didn't have divas they had women wrestlers who could wrestle and some could even properly go with the men, so in all I think Moolah's spot is well earned on the list, even though there should of been 3 list of 50, 1 for the women or maybe a 25 for that, 50 for tag teams and then a 50 for single male wrestlers.

point well taken
always liked flair but have always put the hitman well up their
after reading alot of bio on different wrestlers i now put hitman number 1 by a mile
austin and undertaker also gained alot more and lowered my regard for flair,hbk,hogan and that whole side
as we know a good wrestler is not just the talent he has but the talent of putting other wrestlers over
flair,hogan and so esp in their later year would only put certain guys over and the refuse to work with others
the ones i mentioned have been spoken in glowing terms by every book
and beside that hitman,,best their was,best their is,best their ever will be

same with the hitman that's how the 97 screw job came about because he refused to lose to shawn in montreal, I know they didnt like each other but same thing, Flair still one when it comes to in ring talent, being face/heel ability to work with what he had and ability to draw money (which is the name of the game) and Flair was the top guy over 2-3 wrestling boom periods, brett is high on the list I just dont think he is number 1 and when brett was on top 92-97 was wrestlings down period nothing against his ability, just doesn't come close to flair on everything else.

If you want another good bio, Cross Rhodes the goldust book is pretty good and the 2 books about Gordan Sollie are fantastic reads.